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Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
I don't see why Primebeard should of been afraid of a 1 on 1 confrontation against young Kaido when Oden himself was destroying Kaido and Primebeard was stronger than Oden, at least at the time. Unless Primebeard misred what happened since he claimed "even Oden lost against Kaido" so he overrated Kaido, plain and simple.
 
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Fallen Prince

The sooner people understand that Zoro and Sanji aren't written in parallel the better some people will be off.

Zoro's character like Luffy is fighter base. His dream and goal are all strength related therefore the need for strength to be integral to his character and story.

Oda didn't cut a deal with anyone saying that Zoro and Sanji are some sort of rival strength wise. Oda lives his gags and will have the 2 of them bickering until the maga end yet it doesn't means he's writing them like Naruto and Sasuke or something.

Forget this ridiculous fantasy about Zoro being bound to Sanji strength wise. He's not.
Maybe its time you get of zoro wanking. How can people take you wlserious with your dp of zoro fanboying .

As neutral fan i think oda has put it out zoro and sanji are on same base even though their ambitions are different in the end it really doesnt matter they have to play their part and their roles are different.

Some of you guys downright hate sanji because he is primarily a cook . Given Sanji has got development in personality and fighting style its easy to put him in situation where he can tilt the outcomes.
 
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But but Marco is above Ace or fs Luffy /Kata.

Marco top tier...

@Bogard @playa4321
Even Marco and Izo dont believe they can beat Kaido even if It's the 3 of them.
While WB believed Oden could beat Kaido.

Oden > Marco + Ace + Izo confirmed
Oden >= 9 Retainers was confirmed
Luffy > Marco confirmed... since Luffy will be able do better vs kaido than retainers
Its clear as day that Oden was WB 2nd in command he was WB Rayleigh
But Marco isnt weak either he clashed with BM while BM two shots Queen she knew Marco could stall her
 
Amazing chapter

Holy shit this chapter was jam packed with information.

I was glad to see 8t Was short Ace flashback, and we finally find out why WB didn't go to Wano after 9dens death and it makes total sense honestly.

I nwas really surprised to hear Cavendish name along side the Supernova's from Ace

Definitely looking forward to how this Zoro/Marco vs. King /Queen turn out. (Queen seems to be more mech based then we thought)

Damn that last panel is flipping nuts, Oda sure caught me off guard with that Kaido's df reveal lol
 
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Fallen Prince

Why is everything Zoro this Sanji that
I just wanna Grill for Heaven's sake
I think majority of fans are way to obsessed with power level game.

I do think sanji fandom have problem as well primarily they expect sanji to be like zoro . His role in the crew is more of a trump card. They get disappointed with how sanji is not treated equally as zoro infact its not true .
 
Gags? So Zoro's and Sanji's opponents having the same doriki and they beat them with the same difficulty doesn't put them at the same level? Wake up already.

It doesn't matter if your dream requires strength or not - it doesn't make one character stronger as another. Whitebeards dream was having a family, a dream that requires 0 strength - yet he was the strongest man.
Doriki? Do you also go around claiming that Luffy and Zoro are equals because Oda had them fighting equally against each other back in Alabasta arc, a dynamic which actually showed the 2 being fairly equal when going at each other when serious.

I'm sure not many people bring that up to gauge their current strength in relation to each other so why should we talk about Doriki which happened over 500 chapters ago?

Zoro and Sanji aren't equal, that much should be clear but for some reason there is always this resistance and unwillingness to accept it.

Luffy and Zoro train constantly, dream of becoming the strongest in their respective fields and fighting is at the core of almost everything they seek to accomplish. Sanji is a cook who is good at fighting, doesn't train as much as the duo nor aspires to be some strong warrior or such thing, so obviously Oda will handle them differently which has show since post skip where Luffy and Zoro protrayal as well as feats throughout have put them above Sanji(hence why the need to create the RS to make him relevant again fighting wise otherwise he wouldn't come anywhere near close to Zoro and Luffy's level), not that was ever in question in the first place.

Zoro and Sanji aren't strength rival, this is only something believed and brought up by Sanji hardcore.
 

SmokedOut

Life Is Good ✌️
It's not a coincidence that Marco claimed "he is the new era" referring to Zoro. Specially when literally no one else is paying to visit Kaido.... this can only mean just one thing to me... not sure what you guys believe
I'm pretty sure he's referring to more than just Zoro here. "The New Generation" is referring to everyone attacking Onigashima that isn't a Scabbard or member of WB's crew.
 
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