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becuase my don't like the world is depended on luffy he is new jesus like naruto:seriously:
He is 100% not lmao. Please never make that nasty comparison again.

Luffy doesn't singlehandedly save everyone from every single threat like Naruto did. His crew/fleet has assisted and contributed to every single arc victory. Luffy doesn't have a macguffin power that makes him essentially a god at 16. Luffy has always struggled to get where he is today, not because he was "special" in a sense where he just can gain new abilities via his lineage.

He has his haki through training. He trained his DF to be as versatile as it is. He strictly only fights the main villain or 1 other subordinate, unlike Naruto who was the sole savior of Konoha after Pain, was kept away from the big War to prevent him from overshadowing others, and was once again the sole savior of the War. Dont even get my started in Sasuke, who somehow managed to keep up with Naruto's God levels of chakra just because of his bloodline "preventing blindness by killing my best friend/brother", who then also overshadowed the main character the 2nd half of the series.

If your supporting characters overshadow your main protagonist, you are writing your story wrong.
 

Roronoa-sama

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He is 100% not lmao. Please never make that nasty comparison again.

Luffy doesn't singlehandedly save everyone from every single threat like Naruto did. Luffy doesn't have a macguffin power that makes him essentially a god at 16. Luffy has always struggled to get where he is today, not because he was "special" in a sense where he just can gain new abilities via his lineage.

He has his haki through training. He trained his DF to be as versatile as it is. He strictly only fights the main villain or 1 other subordinate, unlike Naruto who was the sole savior of Konoha after Pain, was kept away from the big War to prevent him from overshadowing others, and was once again the sole savior of the War. Dont even get my started in Sasuke, who somehow managed to keep up with Naruto's God levels of chakra just because of his bloodline "preventing blindness by killing my best friend/brother", who then also overshadowed the main character the 2nd half of the series.

If your supporting characters overshadow your main protagonist, you are writing your story wrong.
he was alsmot saved ace of 3th admirals, Garp and Senkoku
 
he was alsmot saved ace of 3th admirals, Garp and Senkoku
Except he got rocked hard and was assisted by Whitebeard, Garp (who let him punch him btw), Marco, Crocodile, Das Bones, Jinbe, Ivankov, Inazuma, every Whitebeard commander and more to even get there. Fucking Mr. 3 also contributed.

Even Ace, the person he ended up rescuing, rescued him in the end, then STILL died in the process.

Incomparible, stop


Edit: Mihawk said it best that arc. His ability to gain allies on a moments notice (a trait that was copied by Naruto and many other shonen protagonists now) is his superpower. He was protected that entire arc.
 

Roronoa-sama

Magic Sword, Magic Swordsman, and Can Cut Anything
He is and he is not....he is both....but of course you don't listen....one day when I make a thread, I sure gonna tag you....:kata:
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Yeah but with help from WBP and Dragon allies...
one of that's is strongest of all his ally without WB (and i don't count shik, the anothers marines and localitation)
 
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Rofl,you think Luffy is the first Shounen MC ever?Sure thing...
no, but all are the same boring dumber then life guy, but strong.

it's funny how mangakas tend to build a great world but ruin it by repeating the same boring mc over again. mangas should not have mc, it should switch between different characters if this is the best they can provide
 
Not Primebeard and Roger possibly, more likely EoS Luffy yes. But it's merely speculation based off the way I see him beating EoS Teach in a 1 on 1 and minimal help at best, or none.
Personally i do not think Luffy necessarily needs to surpass Roger, WB and Garp.
Blackbeard will compensate for his lack of physical endurance and Haki with the fruits.
 
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