General & Others Sanji or Big Mom?

[ShadyOjiro]

On topic.

BM was treated worse(she's miles ahead relevant than Sanji so him being treated worse only affects candy boys not the plot on the slightest) in her own arc and the incompetence of his crew really shine.

Which was pretty blueballing cuz Oda hyped how BM sees over anyone with her Intel around the nee world.

I mean you don't assist a teaparty BM tracks and kills someone beloved to you wherever you are...

BM holds more weight so it hurts more ending the arc with Big me.me as her new nickname.

Fortunately Wano is doing some fixing....just some the amnesia is unforgivable still.
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well...thanks for the compliment my dear fellow "two piece" reader

:cheers:

Glad you accepted your true colors.

 

[Shura]

Glad you accepted your true colors.

likewise...

 

[Jackteo]

As the thread itself

 

[Daisuke Jigen]

Neither especially Sanji.

As for Sanji, no.... he has good character development.

Spoiler

OT: both were atrocious during WCI, but at least Sanji isn’t (currently...) making some sake that will make Kaido faint. Big Meme on the other hand is continuing to drag her status as a Yonko through the mud and I’m pretty sure Oda has more Ls in mind for her.

 

[Shura]

Spoiler

OT: both were atrocious during WCI, but at least Sanji isn’t (currently...) making some sake that will make Kaido faint. Big Meme on the other hand is continuing to drag her status as a Yonko through the mud and I’m pretty sure Oda has more Ls in mind for her.

He did cook for his friends though...if not for the cake, RIP of weak trio along with Jimbei.....that cake still saved SH eventhough it saved BigMom also....and none of the WCI knows that cake was made by Sanji...wondering what would be the outcome if they know that the cake was made by Sanji...

and crying means character regression?? Zoro character regressed because he cried when he was defeated by Posthawk.......as usual ignoring context...nothing new.....

people disappointed about Sanji because he didn't have proper "1 vs 1" fight in his arc...not about his character

BigMom ain't dragging anything....her fighting Kaido for 2 days offsets her embarrassing feats ...however, if anything there is nothing that offsets "postponement" the fight against high tier from top tier...not even cutting the iceberg and measurement of distance

 

[RiShin]

But back on topic
Its Sanji.. I almsot dislike everything about his character but at least I dont publicly bash him each time he get Dumb moment..

Didnt like how Oda handle his backstory in WCI because nothing was resolve..

1. What happen to Sanji disliking how his brothers treat women?
2. Sora died for no reason because Yonji and Neiji apparently has emotions because they showed an sense of urgency when Reiji was about to get hit by Linlin.
3. The talk about why Oda doesnt hit women is so stupid.. Iwould has expected a better reason because Sanji put Robin in danger due to him not fighting Kalfia.
4. How quickly Sanji resolve his issue with the raid suit and now he starting to love it..
5. Sanji doesnt improve as a character but stays stale.. nothing in WCI change him to be a better man.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

I will never understand why or how some of you have the energy to CONSTANTLY rehash Zoro/Sanji. Wish I hadn’t wasted so much of my life scrolling through threads like this, but here we are...

On topic, I think Big Mom has been nerfed more, but mostly out of necessity - Luffy didn’t have his full crew or any true allies in WCI, so Oda wrote himself into a corner halfway through the arc and had to take some liberties to get him and the Straw Hats out of trouble. Would y’all have rather Linlin murdered the story’s protagonist this far in advance of the conclusion??

 

[True God Moe]

Spoiler

OT: both were atrocious during WCI, but at least Sanji isn’t (currently...) making some sake that will make Kaido faint. Big Meme on the other hand is continuing to drag her status as a Yonko through the mud and I’m pretty sure Oda has more Ls in mind for her.

.....He debut as a cook and fighter since beginning and that same cake what protected Strawhats and others from their demise from this:

It shown and stated they couldn't beat her whether alone or together. He did cook for his friends as if it wasn't for what he did, they wound be dead, fool. Tell me how would they escape from situation and your excuse better not be they beat her up together as your only one taking Ls in this a lot more just like your avatar picture of Bege taking Ls in same arc.

Also really? You don't want him to cry? Is crying bad thing in a series ? Wound you be sane dealing with blackmail that could kill your love ones, your friends' safety, go no one to rely on in situation, etc.. Guess everyone must never cry no matter what just like:

(Fun Fact still loses after this phrase even to now)

This isn't even all moments Luffy cried about.

Guess Luffy and Zoro are bitches for showing emotion, huh? GTFO here with your BS and pay attention to series context and multi-layer characters, not petty BS statements like your saying. Your only one getting Is here, not characters.

There is a thing about developing characters and handling situation. Learn about them and how WCI arc is, bruh .
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I will never understand why or how some of you have the energy to CONSTANTLY rehash Zoro/Sanji. Wish I hadn’t wasted so much of my life scrolling through threads like this, but here we are...

On topic, I think Big Mom has been nerfed more, but mostly out of necessity - Luffy didn’t have his full crew or any true allies in WCI, so Oda wrote himself into a corner halfway through the arc and had to take some liberties to get him and the Straw Hats out of trouble. Would y’all have rather Linlin murdered the story’s protagonist this far in advance of the conclusion??

Zoro-Brainers love reading Two Piece and bashing other characters. You can see it on their threads like these. Report to mods if you want them to stop and take things seriously if they can that is :cautious:.

 

[Erkan12]

None of them. Big mom was nerfed against Jinbe and co, and they were still running away from Big mom and she didn't even take a scratch. And you think he treats Zoro good in comparison with Sanji, by not using him as a hype tool against stronger opponents, then we see his power level against Hawkins and nerfed Killer anyway, there is no running from that.

 

[Zowo]

 

[Rukusho]

Between Sanji or Mama...

Sanji has been fine since the timeskip.

The issue seems to stems from the readers who believe Sanji’s cooking < fighting or his fighting is equally important to Sanji as his cooking.

Which the Manga on numerous occasions has proven to Sanji.
1.) Cooking & Feeding people
2.) Women
3.) fighting

Those who go into One Piece expecting Sanji to be a pure fighter will be disappointed.

otherwise just like @Cinera posted (covered everything I was going to say) regarding Big mom she’s the bigger disappointment of the two.

Has to be Meme. Let's go over all her feats.

• Literally loses her mind.
• One of her strongest weapons ditched her for a low tier (Nami).
• Gets blitzed by a mid tier (Brook).
• Fails to destroy a low tier with an enraged attack (King Baum).
• Gets blocked by a low tier (Chopper).
• Gets bitch slapped by a low high tier (Jinbe).
• Gets neg diffed by a high tier (King).
• Gets mid diffed by a high tier (Queen).
  • Bound up and transported like a wild animal.
• Her best DC feat is shat on by two low high tiers (DR Zoro and Law).

Meme is a disgrace to top tiers everywhere. If not for her title and facing Kaido, even her status as one would be in doubt.

 

[True God Moe]

Between Sanji or Mama...

Sanji has been fine since the timeskip.

The issue seems to stems from the readers who believe Sanji’s cooking < fighting or his fighting is equally important to Sanji as his cooking.

Which the Manga on numerous occasions has proven to Sanji.
1.) Cooking & Feeding people
2.) Women
3.) fighting

Those who go into One Piece expecting Sanji to be a pure fighter will be disappointed.

otherwise just like @Cinera posted (covered everything I was going to say) regarding Big mom she’s the bigger disappointment of the two.

Just because he enjoys cooking more than fighting, doesn't mean he stops fighting or won't fight anymore as Wano says otherwise and he is going good. Big Mom is overblown as we see Oda still consider her a threat as shiwn fighting with Kaido and she still garners fears around. Few you are overblowing how Oda thinks and treats his characters.
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Nice fanfic. Though here is an canon image by Oda himself:

Can't beat a nerfer and fox....Disappointing.

 

[Inspector_Mu]

None of them
People wanted Sanji to be fighting when he is Cook and had family issues to deal with.

There are characters that hold no weight and serve real purpose

 

[Finalbeta]

None of them
People wanted Sanji to be fighting when he is Cook and had family issues to deal with.

There are characters that hold no weight and serve real purpose

Sanji is one of these

 

[Zowo]

Just because he enjoys cooking more than fighting, doesn't mean he stops fighting or won't fight anymore as Wano says otherwise and he is going good. Big Mom is overblown as we see Oda still consider her a threat as shiwn fighting with Kaido and she still garners fears around. Few you are overblowing how Oda thinks and treats his characters.
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Nice fanfic. Though here is an canon image by Oda himself:

Can't beat a nerfer and fox....Disappointing.

 

[Camie]

Big Mom hands down. Sanji is being handled very well. Its just that Sanji fans are looking for him to be some indestructible monster. He's the cook of the ship and a darn great fighter at that. Big mom turned into Big Meme after whole cake island.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Bm easily lol

 

[Awakening_coming]

Useless discussion. Wait till Sanji get his 1v1 and BM showing all she's got later in Wano.
Easier to powerscale and less bait threads.

 

[Finalbeta]

Bm easily lol

Imagine if this was a fight

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Imagine if this was a fight

Battle of losers :cheers: