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Different stories with entirely different setups, albeit much smaller worlds.
AoT was centered around one major mystery and kept pushing that till the basement. The ride till there was great, but i do not know anybody who did not say "when the fuck are we not getting to the basement".

That´s not true. Chapter 1 we did not even know that existed.

Anyway there is nothing that says chapter 1000 should be the huge revelation or something, it´s something you set as standard for yourself.
Them being different stories wasn't my point! My point is that ODa has been given plenty of time to write his story. 23 years is way more than enough time. It is time to start providing some revaluation. Also duh captain obvious "1000 should be the huge revelation" duh Einstein. The point you aren't grasping is that it is 1000 chapters later and 23+ years later.

"That´s not true. Chapter 1 we did not even know that existed."

You can't be serious? My god, turn down your fanboyism dude. I was obviously overexaggerating. Don't @ me again dude. It is obvious, you stroke off to anything Oda writes.
 

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Lookout and the dawn. I hate Yamato with passion anything is better than her
Lookout is a position anyone with eyes can fill, and buddy, if you really think Carrot has a stronger connection to the dawn than Yamato, I truly don’t know what to tell you because we are not reading OP the same way. You can hate Yamato, that’s totally fine...but there is no argument that justifies Carrot joining the crew, and Oda clearly doesn’t give as much of a shit about her as he does Kaido’s daughter.
 
Them being different stories wasn't my point! My point is that ODa has been given plenty of time to write his story. 23 years is way more than enough time. It is time to start providing some revaluation. Also duh captain obvious "1000 should be the huge revelation" duh Einstein. The point you aren't grasping is that it is 1000 chapters later and 23+ years later.

"That´s not true. Chapter 1 we did not even know that existed."

You can't be serious? My god, turn down your fanboyism dude. I was obviously overexaggerating. Don't @ me again dude. It is obvious, you stroke off to anything Oda writes.
That was my point. You can´t compare different stories with different scales, settings, context and so forth by the time they took in real life to reach a certain progress within the story.
I know oneshots that create a mystery and solve it in the same chapter, are we going to compare AoT to them and criticize it taking 10 years for mystery reveal? Let´s stop being silly.
Considering you basically have not said anything in this post, i assume you do not have anything worthwhile to say except lashing out.
 
Lookout is a position anyone with eyes can fill, and buddy, if you really think Carrot has a stronger connection to the dawn than Yamato, I truly don’t know what to tell you because we are not reading OP the same way. You can hate Yamato, that’s totally fine...but there is no argument that justifies Carrot joining the crew, and Oda clearly doesn’t give as much of a shit about her as he does Kaido’s daughter.
Yes she most definitely does. And anyone who fights can be combatant it's just zoro is a hell of a good combatant. Mind telling me yamatos dream and role
 
That was my point. You can´t compare different stories with different scales, settings, context and so forth by the time they took in real life to reach a certain progress within the story.
I know oneshots that create a mystery and solve it in the same chapter, are we going to compare AoT to them and criticize it taking 10 years for mystery reveal? Let´s stop being silly.
Considering you basically have not said anything in this post, i assume you do not have anything worthwhile to say except lashing out.
Didn't I tell you not to @ me again?
 
Also i am not sure you are arguing against this, but the blade obviously does make a difference. For an extreme example compare Mihawk with the tiny knife vs Mihawk with Yoru.

Also here is an interesting hint, Mihawk's tiny blade is not black, even though he wields a black blade in Yoru.
The difference I meant is the one you are implying

you know what you are implying. You are saying Enma draws out more of Zoro’s Haki for attacks than other swords. And you are saying that’s a good thing that Zoro will have to rely on

I’m saying no, mihawk’s haki is exactly the same when using a tiny knife vs using yoru. The difference here is of course the physical difference between A knife and yoru.

But it’s the same out come run terms of haki. Mihawk can make his tiny knife fail to cut paper and then drive that tiny knife clean through Kaido. Same way mihawk can make yoru fail to cut paper and then drive it clean through Kaido. At that point, yoru is more dangerous simply because it’s big as fuck

Also you pointing out the knife isn’t black and yoru is doesn’t prove anything. There’s an unknown factor on top of Haki that makes black blades. The knife could easily just not have had the unknown factor applied to it.

maybe I can give a scenario. My idea for the unknown factor comes from what Gyukimaru says. He says “Shusui was forged black by Ryuma’s countless battles”

this is unconfirmed of course but I believe this statement means multiple battles themselves are required while using that sword to make it black on top of haki. So mihawk’s knife can’t be a black blade since he doesn’t use it for actual fights regularly. Therefore we can have mihawk use the same amount of Haki on both yoru and the knife but since yoru is actually used in battles, it’s actually turns black

This is just an example of how an extra factor aside from Haki can affect how and when one sword turns black before another even though the person using the swords has the same Haki usage across all swords
 

Jew D. Boy

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Yes she most definitely does. And anyone who fights can be combatant it's just zoro is a hell of a good combatant. Mind telling me yamatos dream and role
Yamato’s dream has been made painstakingly clear over the last few chapters, including this one - she wants to be free from her father’s oppressive clutches and experience the world as her idol Oden did. If you say this isn’t strong enough motivation for her to join, I’d argue that Carrot’s dream is the exact same thing, so either both of them have good reason to follow Luffy, or neither of them do.

As far as the role, I’ve long said that someone doesn’t NEED a position to justify traveling on a ship. Zoro himself is a combatant, which isn’t a well-defined job, and although they mean something to Luffy, you don’t really need an archaeologist (Robin) or a musician (Brook) on a pirate crew. There are only so many tangible jobs, and yet, we have seen plenty of crews with far more bodies than would reasonably fill them. Oden himself didn’t seem to have an actual responsibility in Roger’s crew, and filling the role of commander for WB also doesn’t carry any requirements past being powerful. If we’re gonna sit here and pretend like “lookout” is a necessary role, tell me why we’re 1000 chapters in and the SHP have gotten along just fine without one.
 
Okay your point? We need to start learning some important information for christ sakes. Oda dick riding Luffy every chapter making him to be some god, forcing us to love him is annoying. I want to actually get revelations that is important.
Nah fuck the revelations, that shit can be learned at Raftel. In order to get there is to have Luffy flex on these Yonko
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Yamato’s dream has been made painstakingly clear over the last few chapters, including this one - she wants to be free from her father’s oppressive clutches and experience the world as her idol Oden did. If you say this isn’t strong enough motivation for her to join, I’d argue that Carrot’s dream is the exact same thing, so either both of them have good reason to follow Luffy, or neither of them do.

As far as the role, I’ve long said that someone doesn’t NEED a position to justify traveling on a ship. Zoro himself is a combatant, which isn’t a well-defined job, and although they mean something to Luffy, you don’t really need an archaeologist (Robin) or a musician (Brook) on a pirate crew. There are only so many tangible jobs, and yet, we have seen plenty of crews with far more bodies than would reasonably fill them. Oden himself didn’t seem to have an actual responsibility in Roger’s crew, and filling the role of commander for WB also doesn’t carry any requirements past being powerful. If we’re gonna sit here and pretend like “lookout” is a necessary role, tell me why we’re 1000 chapters in and the SHP have gotten along just fine without one.
She will be the hoe of the crew. Her role is to pop off a nut
 
The difference I meant is the one you are implying

you know what you are implying. You are saying Enma draws out more of Zoro’s Haki for attacks than other swords. And you are saying that’s a good thing that Zoro will have to rely on

I’m saying no, mihawk’s haki is exactly the same when using a tiny knife vs using yoru. The difference here is of course the physical difference between A knife and yoru.

But it’s the same out come run terms of haki. Mihawk can make his tiny knife fail to cut paper and then drive that tiny knife clean through Kaido. Same way mihawk can make yoru fail to cut paper and then drive it clean through Kaido. At that point, yoru is more dangerous simply because it’s big as fuck

Also you pointing out the knife isn’t black and yoru is doesn’t prove anything. There’s an unknown factor on top of Haki that makes black blades. The knife could easily just not have had the unknown factor applied to it.

maybe I can give a scenario. My idea for the unknown factor comes from what Gyukimaru says. He says “Shusui was forged black by Ryuma’s countless battles”

this is unconfirmed of course but I believe this statement means multiple battles themselves are required while using that sword to make it black on top of haki. So mihawk’s knife can’t be a black blade since he doesn’t use it for actual fights regularly. Therefore we can have mihawk use the same amount of Haki on both yoru and the knife but since yoru is actually used in battles, it’s actually turns black

This is just an example of how an extra factor aside from Haki can affect how and when one sword turns black before another even though the person using the swords has the same Haki usage across all swords
It's not necessarily about the quantity of Haki.

Do you think a black blade is only an aesthetic thing ? Like, it does nothing for the swordsman to use a blade that he had turned black , in comparison to one he did not ?

I'm saying that there's value in a Black Blade beyond the aesthetics, and in being closer to turning a blade into a black blade as well. There something that better connets it's weilder with it, and allows him to do more with it than he'd be able to do with a random blade he just found on the floor.
 
Okay your point? We need to start learning some important information for christ sakes. Oda dick riding Luffy every chapter making him to be some god, forcing us to love him is annoying. I want to actually get revelations that is important.
There is absolutely no obligation to reveal things just because it's chapter 1000, where did you get that from?
It's just what you want not what was to be expected.
Oda is riding luffy's dick so much that Luffy didn't do anything relevant during the raid so far.

Don't expect any major revelations about the D clan and the One Piece until Luffy actually becomes pirate King and reaches the last island.
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Nah fuck the revelations, that shit can be learned at Raftel. In order to get there is to have Luffy flex on these Yonko
It's obvious that's the significance of the D initial is linked to the One Piece itself. We are not getting one without the other.
So yeah fuck the revelations and give us some epic and badass moments like that again. It's a fucking war, we need fights now.
 
There is absolutely no obligation to reveal things just because it's chapter 1000, where did you get that from?
It's just what you want not what was to be expected.
Oda is riding luffy's dick so much that Luffy didn't do anything relevant during the raid so far.

Don't expect any major revelations about the D clan and the One Piece until Luffy actually becomes pirate King and reaches the last island.
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It's obvious that's the significance of the D initial is linked to the One Piece itself. We are not getting one without the other.
So yeah fuck the revelations and give us some epic and badass moments like that again. It's a fucking war, we need fights now.
This guy gets it
 
It's not necessarily about the quantity of Haki.

Do you think a black blade is only an aesthetic thing ? Like, it does nothing for the swordsman to use a blade that he had turned black , in comparison to one he did not ?

I'm saying that there's value in a Black Blade beyond the aesthetics, and in being closer to turning a blade into a black blade as well. There something that better connets it's weilder with it, and allows him to do more with it than he'd be able to do with a random blade he just found on the floor.
Well of course black blades aren’t aesthetic. Tenguyama says swords actually rise in rank when they get turned black

but that’s thing, he says “when they get turned black”... There is no given distinction for what happens “when close to turning black”

you are making two assumptions. That there is a distinction made for when a sword is close to tuning black (which there isn’t as of yet) and that Enma specifically is the closest to this.

remember Enma’s only “special” for the haki draining thing. And Enma could do that FROM THE START. as in right after Enma was made, it could already drain people. The “special” quality Enma has has nothing to do with whether it’s closer to turning black. It’s just how the sword was made.

Anyway, we’ve exhausted this. My point stands that you are making too many assumptions about how this stuff works and even ignoring how Oden uses Enma for whatever reason to show that Zoro relies more on Enma than Oden does. I’m assuming because Zoro is weaker than Oden to you and there’s no way he should be able to use Enma like Oden.

mid this is your reasoning then I can’t change your mind. We’ll wait and see whether Zoro has special Enma reliance
 
There is absolutely no obligation to reveal things just because it's chapter 1000, where did you get that from?
It's just what you want not what was to be expected.
Oda is riding luffy's dick so much that Luffy didn't do anything relevant during the raid so far.

Don't expect any major revelations about the D clan and the One Piece until Luffy actually becomes pirate King and reaches the last island.
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It's obvious that's the significance of the D initial is linked to the One Piece itself. We are not getting one without the other.
So yeah fuck the revelations and give us some epic and badass moments like that again. It's a fucking war, we need fights now.
That dude just rants like a child without any subtance as usual like some people here and ironically says the same thing like them....must be the dupe of one of the so called "critics" in this forum....:milaugh:
and don't @ him since he himself admited that he can't put anything substance to the discussion...:suresure:
 
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