Chapter Discussion Is Killer underrated?

rerere

rerere

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#181
#181
Garp the Fist said:
Kid is angry, Killer is upset. A person crying does not make them “broken”, ffs, everyone in One Piece cries at some point.

Also, that is Killer post-Zoro fight. It does not reflect his mental state during the Zoro fight itself. During the Zoro fight Killer had a purpose- he was fighting in order to free his crew from Orochi and Kaido. Showing him crying after he failed to do that and has seemingly doomed them to life in Kaido’s prisons does not mean he was in the same mental state in the Zoro fight.
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His mental state during the Zoro fight wasn't that bad like when he arrived in Udon, still bad tho. His beating, the fact that he was separeted by his crew and had to work for Kaido/Orochi to free his captain and also eating a SMILE, which makes him laugh constantly (a thing that Kidd highlighted as the thing he hates the most of himself) are all things that counted. Mental pressure didn't came all at once in Udon.
I'm not mentioning again the weapons and the injuries, but are factors that are still there.

Rivaille said:
It is not fact. You gloss over canon infos to put your narrative.

Killer worked for Orochi for weeks in the flower capital. His situation has nothing to do with Kidd’s. Being bandaged up does not mean that he was still suffering from any injuries.
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So he was using bendages for his aesthetic taste?
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Also 'Will is everything' doesn't mean that you'll success in everything, otherwise if will was enough we wouldn't have needed a 2 years TS and SH in genereal wouldn't have suffered a lot of losses. Killer had just to much shit to handle at once, is that is fault? No it's not.
 
PurpleSwordsman

PurpleSwordsman

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#185
#185
He is in Zoro's tier, slightly weaker than him since Zoro is a MC and he not.
So if people put him below that, then yes he was being underestimated.

He is not going to fight till the end against Kaido anyway, some skirmish alongside Zoro and the captains and they (vicecaptains) would fight against King and/or Jack.
Drake and Apoo are still above them (VC) for now, but below the Captains.
Bege ofc is stronger than them as well, overall.
Bonney no, but it depends on her DF and how exactly works. She might be a Sugar with good physical stats and that would be broken as hell.
 
G

Geo

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#189
#189
rerere said:
You are ignoring the physical injuries and the fact that the same poison Zoro assumed, Killer assumed in major quantities.
And don'act like if the wapons weren't that much of a nerf :seriously:
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What are you talking about? He had zero physical injuries
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Funnily enough, where were all these Killer psychologists prior to this chapter?
All of a sudden these guys understand Killer's mental state and how mentally broken he was....:choppawhat:
 
rerere

rerere

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#190
#190
Geo said:
What are you talking about? He had zero physical injuries
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Funnily enough, where were all these Killer psychologists prior to this chapter?
All of a sudden these guys understand Killer's mental state and how mentally broken he was....:choppawhat:
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You joking? I've always said it, especially when folks like you were poodling on him. This chapter is just the start of a series of confirmations that will come
:myman:
 
Ice devil slayer

Ice devil slayer

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#191
#191
PurpleSwordsman said:
He is in Zoro's tier, slightly weaker than him since Zoro is a MC and he not.
So if people put him below that, then yes he was being underestimated.

He is not going to fight till the end against Kaido anyway, some skirmish alongside Zoro and the captains and they (vicecaptains) would fight against King and/or Jack.
Drake and Apoo are still above them (VC) for now, but below the Captains.
Bege ofc is stronger than them as well, overall.
Bonney no, but it depends on her DF and how exactly works. She might be a Sugar with good physical stats and that would be broken as hell.
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Zoro and Killer are both fighting the yonkos
There's zéro build up for them to fight calamities

Stop thé bs
 
rerere

rerere

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#194
#194
Geo said:
Where was Killer physically injured before fighting Zoro?
Show the panel.

Yh right.....
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There are no panels, Hawkins (who assisted to the scene) explained that both Kidd and Killer fought Kaido till they couldn't move.
A few chapters before Zoro and Killer met we see Kidd still bloody in Udon, and then we see Kamazo (who's later revealed to be Killer) full of bandages. It's not that hard to do the math.
 
Zowo

Zowo

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#195
#195
rerere said:
There are no panels, Hawkins explained that they both fought Kaido till they couldn't move.
A few chapters before Zoro and Killer met we see Kidd still bloody in Udon, and then we see Kamazo (who's later revealed to be Killer) full of bandages. It's not that hard to do the math.
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lmao
kidd and killer were beaten after dressrosa arc ended and weeks passsed until luffy got to wano
 
nik87

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
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#196
#196
rerere said:
There are no panels, Hawkins (who assisted to the scene) explained that both Kidd and Killer fought Kaido till they couldn't move.
A few chapters before Zoro and Killer met we see Kidd still bloody in Udon, and then we see Kamazo (who's later revealed to be Killer) full of bandages. It's not that hard to do the math.
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It does seem hard to understand for you tho lol.
Killer was never injured, except when fighting Kaido which happened long before Wano events.
Why would Orochi want to weaken his assassin? He instead tried to make him stronger by giving him a smile DF.
All about Kamazou has been a visual camouflage to fool the readers, there were no injuries.
 
rerere

rerere

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#197
#197
Zowo said:
lmao
kidd and killer were beaten after dressrosa arc ended and weeks passsed until luffy got to wano
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And we still see Kidd bloody a few chapters before Zoro and Killer meeting, so what you said means nothing :kayneshrug:
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nik87 said:
It does seem hard to understand for you tho lol.
Killer was never injured, except when fighting Kaido which happened long before Wano events.
Why would Orochi want to weaken his assassin? He instead tried to make him stronger by giving him a smile DF.
All about Kamazou has been a visual camouflage to fool the readers, there were no injuries.
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Same answer goes to you

Also I don't get it, you say that I'm making assumptions when the narrative proves me right, and then you proceed to make your own assumption and pretend that they are canon. Doesn't make a lot of sense :watchout:
 
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