Speculations Now Zoro is on the roof, who will he end up primarily fighting

[KiriNigiri]

Would the hints make more sense for someone who's famed around the world with a Fire Epithet, or just dealing with Yonko gimmicks like Brook already did in WCI, or Kinemon earlier this arc.

They'd make sense because Zoro still ultimately cut fire. Nothing in the contract stated the fire had to be from "guy who's famous for it."

Apparenly he's going to defeat no swordsman of worth in the country of Ryuma/ Oden.

Does he need to fight swordsman to become a great swordsman?

No, that's a false equivalence. WCI was never about fighting Big Mom, it was about retrieving Sanji and stealing a Poneglyph. Wano is about fighting and defeating Kaido.

Yes, fighting and defeating Kaido. Something Zoro wants and has been pushed towards. It still doesn't demand Oda adhere to the typical arc conventions. And this time, the Strawhats have a ton of allies, so they can't be expected to have all the fights.

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Well just picture it. Is it a bigger moment to cut through Kings ultimate Fire Sword attack and defeat him as the culmination of those hints that were sprinkled through out hundreds of chapter, or he does something that Kinemon already did without being that big of a deal.

Cutting a dragon's fire breath is a big deal.

Apparently not. We don't know a single swordsman of note defeated by Mihawk and he's holding the title

Zoro doesn't have to beat every swordsman to be a renown figure. All he needs are feats and accomplishments.

 

[Lunaria]

They'd make sense because Zoro still ultimately cut fire. Nothing in the contract stated the fire had to be from "guy who's famous for it."


Does he need to fight swordsman to become a great swordsman?

Hasn't Oda made him fight swordsmen to make him a great swordsman ? That's the direction Oda went in with Zoro. His final opponent is also a swordsman.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Cutting a dragon's fire breath is a big deal.


Zoro doesn't have to beat every swordsman to be a renown figure. All he needs are feats and accomplishments.

Kinemon already did it. So hints sprinkled across hundreds of chapters through multiple arcs, to show him do something Kinemon already did.

That vs the ultimate clash for his 1 vs 1 fight in Wano against the Strongest Swordsman in Wano, who's using his strongest attack against him which is fire based.

 

[KiriNigiri]

Hasn't Oda made him fight swordsmen to make him a great swordsman ? That's the direction Oda went in with Zoro. His final opponent is also a swordsman.

He's matched up with swordsman because they matchup well against him. But a dragon, one that is very durable and has terrorized swordsmen, matches up well against him too.

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Kinemon already did it. So hints sprinkled across hundreds of chapters through multiple arcs, to show him do something Kinemon already did.

Why does it matter if Kin'emon did it? Are you implying Kin'emon can't cut King's fire?

That vs the ultimate clash for his 1 vs 1 fight in Wano against the Strongest Swordsman in Wano, who's using his strongest attack against him which is fire based.

That's a good premise. Not the one Oda's going with, apparently.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

He's matched up with swordsman because they matchup well against him. But a dragon, one that is very durable and has terrorized swordsmen, matches up well against him too.

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Why does it matter if Kin'emon did it? Are you implying Kin'emon can't cut King's fire?

That's a good premise. Not the one Oda's going with, apparently.

I'm implying Kinemon attempting to clash with King's ultimate attack would end with a dead Kinemon.

But he will. Two chapters ago Zoro was running after Apoo. Onigashima is flying in the air towards Wano, a number of the match-ups under the roof even are not locked in yet, nothing is definitive.

Through out the entire manga, through out all of Zoro's opponents that were of any note, none was not a swordsman. The closest you can get is Mr1, who while technically not labeled as a swordsman, had a DF which allowed him to turn any part of his body into a blade.

 

[KiriNigiri]

I'm implying Kinemon attempting to clash with King's ultimate attack would end with a dead Kinemon.

Well, he did rather well against King's boss, so I'm not sure about that.

But he will. Two chapters ago Zoro was running after Apoo. Onigashima is flying in the air towards Wano, a number of the match-ups under the roof even are not locked in yet, nothing is definitive.

Nothing's definitive, but that doesn't translate to Zoro vs King happening. Occam's Razor.

Through out the entire manga, through out all of Zoro's opponents that were of any note, none was not a swordsman. The closest you can get is Mr1, who while technically not labeled as a swordsman, had a DF which allowed him to turn any part of his body into a blade.

Here's the thing: Kaido has ruled over Wano. Every swordsman that has attempted to fight him have failed. If Zoro manages to do more than any of them, it's as good as having defeated them in combat. Literally no one on Wano would second guess his skills.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Well, he did rather well against King's boss, so I'm not sure about that.


Nothing's definitive, but that doesn't translate to Zoro vs King happening. Occam's Razor.


Here's the thing: Kaido has ruled over Wano. Every swordsman that has attempted to fight him have failed. If Zoro manages to do more than any of them, it's as good as having defeated them in combat. Literally no one on Wano would second guess his skills.

Crocodile would defeat Mr 1

Eneru would defeat Ohm

Lucci would defeat Kaku

Zoro did not defeat the stronger guy to prove through proxi that he could have defeated the swordsmen.

Kinemon would get destroyed, you forget how he could do nothing against Doffy.

 

[Desolate Smaug]

Unless Oda's pacing is really, really shitty and jumps around in a very odd way, should take less than 10 chapters to get Zoro and Sanji in position to fight King and Queen or at least have a face off between these characters.

King and Queen will probably overpower Marco and also end up on the roof with Marco in two. Sanji will also likely follow them up. I'm not a fan of team fights let's see how Oda handles this one.

 

[vikas]

BM will be kicked out of fight probably. I dont see her as a threat

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I cant even imagine BM being in pain at all

 

[hedera__helix]

Kaido mostly and block a few of BM's attacks, he won't even make eye contact with King or Queen.

 

[sanjikun]

Kaido is Luffy's fight. Get over it and stop being stupid fanboys. Zoro is not the one who is going to become Pirate King. He is there in a support role.

These guys keep making fake fights. Remember Zoro vs. The Shogun? That was DEFINITELY going to happen. Everyone convinced themselves.

 

[vikas]

Kaido is Luffy's fight. Get over it and stop being stupid fanboys. Zoro is not the one who is going to become Pirate King. He is there in a support role.

These guys keep making fake fights. Remember Zoro vs. The Shogun? That was DEFINITELY going to happen. Everyone convinced themselves.

 

[zzShinichi]

Kaido is Luffy's fight. Get over it and stop being stupid fanboys. Zoro is not the one who is going to become Pirate King. He is there in a support role.

These guys keep making fake fights. Remember Zoro vs. The Shogun? That was DEFINITELY going to happen. Everyone convinced themselves.

No only Sanji fans were convinced that it would happen
Just admit it, the only reason Sanji fans are pushing the whole Zoro vs King now is because
+ They don't want Zoro to shine in the Kaidou's fight
+ They want to drag Zoro back to the same level as them

 

[wereng99]

Well, he will fight King wether i tell you that he does or does not

I wonder where those confident came from, that a such a bold claim bruhh..

 

[Kuro Ashi]

I wonder where those confident came from, that a such a bold claim bruhh..

Been saying it since back when Zoro fans were fighting with Sanji fans over who fights King

 

[HA001]

Kaido is Luffy's fight. Get over it and stop being stupid fanboys. Zoro is not the one who is going to become Pirate King. He is there in a support role.

These guys keep making fake fights. Remember Zoro vs. The Shogun? That was DEFINITELY going to happen. Everyone convinced themselves.

I thought he wasnt fighting kaido. What happened ?

 

[wereng99]

Been saying it since back when Zoro fans were fighting with Sanji fans over who fights King

Seriously bruhh, most zoro fans said he gonna face kaido lol, it is other fanbase said zoro vs 1st strongest subordinate of kaido get out of your headcannon dude.. he's facing against yonkos... This fight is more like new era vs old era and sanji is not included lol

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Seriously bruhh, most zoro fans said he gonna face kaido lol, it is other fanbase said zoro vs 1st strongest subordinate of kaido get out of your headcannon dude.. he's facing against yonkos... This fight is more like new era vs old era and sanji is not included lol

Maybe you've only been reading the past couple of weeks or something on this forum. The discussion of wether Zoro or Sanji vs King went for a long time, and there were many Zoro fans saying that he will face King instead of Sanji.

 

[Lunaria]

I don't get it, really. I mean when did Zoro soloing King become such a bad thing that believing in it equals to dragging down Zoro ? We're talking about soloing a YC1 here. He will fight Kaido, it's set in stone. But whether he kills him or not, at the end of the day, this will be a group effort. Zoro fans focus so much on Kaido's status that they forget it's a 5v1. Suggesting a solo fight against a YC1 will happen on top of that is not an attempt at diminishing Zoro's role, that's the exact opposite.

I think the real problem lies somewhere else and it has something to do with Luffy. Zoro having a real 1v1 fight against King would suggest he's not equal to Luffy and I suspect a lot of Zoro fans don't want that to be the case. Luffy is already above YC1 level so they want Zoro to already be up there too, I guess.

 

[zzShinichi]

Maybe you've only been reading the past couple of weeks or something on this forum. The discussion of wether Zoro or Sanji vs King went for a long time, and there were many Zoro fans saying that he will face King instead of Sanji.

And Oda said otherwise. Oda didn't spend the last 20 chapters, kicking both Zoro and Luffy to the groundfloor, then bring him to the top in 1 fell-swoop, only for him to end up back down fighting King otherwise.