Current Events Establishing why Luffy will end up beating Kaido in a 1 on 1

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Bogard

Bogard

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As title says, although the fight between Yonko vs Worstgen is starting in a 2 vs 5 right now, i think that Luffy will ultimately end up fighting Kaido in a one on one. To illustrate this, i'd take the example of dressrosa which started in a group battle, but Luffy ending up fighting Doffy in a one-on-one

Now let's talk about the reasons:

1- First of all, before the arc even started, Oda was already hyping up Luffy as a future 5th emperor of the seas

This suggest imo that Luffy should come out of the Wano arc as a powerhouse recognized on a similar threat level to that of an emperor

2- Before the arc started once again, Shanks was already suggesting that the time to meet Luffy was close, and that was before Luffy's udon training that made him much stronger

And while we're still in the Wano arc, Oda implied that Shanks is about to move

Which further suggest the time for their meeting is coming closer, a meeting that Shanks only wanted to happen when Luffy would be recognized as a great pirate(yonko)

This could once again only happen if Luffy comes out of the arc recognized as a yonko level threat

3- In the One Piece newspaper vol2 translated by Sandman, Oda pointed out that when Kaido was introduced(shortly after Doflamingo's defeat), he didn't think Luffy could defeat such a strong character yet.

The yet is important here, because it means Oda was already thinking back then about ways for Luffy to defeat him, and since then, Luffy learned new tricks like future sight from his battle with Katakuri, allowing him to predict things in advance, and level3 hardening on his way to learn level2, allowing him to bypass Kaido's durability even with a gear3 attack and thus his way not to make Kaido's defeat appear just because Luffy's punch is so strong. By giving him future sight, and level 3 hardening, it granted to Luffy new tricks that Oda thought in his mind could make Kaido's defeat satisfying for the reader

4- In his introduction, Kaido's main theme was resolving around the fact that you always have to bet on him in a 1 on 1 fight


And we know Oda always love to make Luffy destroy legendary myths like he did with Katakuri's track-record

This is why imo, Oda would at one point make Luffy fight Kaido in a 1 on 1, beat him and destroy this myth around always betting on Kaido in a 1 on 1

5- In the latest chapter, Oda decided for Luffy to be the one to carry the burden of Oden and his retainers in order to save Wano infront of the yonko


Which imo will lead to Luffy being recognized as the savior of Wano

Thanks for reading :optimistic:

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Mr. Anderson

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Luffy beating kaido in a 1 v 1 was evident for me since what Oda said in point 3.

Then Oda goes on to literally handing Luffy the tools he needs to do it, thats when it was solidified.

I recalled Hyo mentioning Luffy looking like a Wisdom King. Those were warriors that lay down the wrath of Bhudda. They taught through fear/shocked nonbelievers into faith. Now guess which two Yonko dont believe Luffy will be PK or will take down the WSC lol
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Don DaSlayer said:
Luffy is strong but No.
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Its highly possible now tho. Thanks to the mini training timeskip in Udon Oda can make Luffy as strong as he wants lol

Chapter 1000 showed us a close range Ryou attack, Luffy still got long ranged ones lol
 
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Master OF Haki

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Bogard said:
As title says, although the fight between Yonko vs Worstgen is starting in a 2 vs 5 right now, i think that Luffy will ultimately end up fighting Kaido in a one on one. To illustrate this, i'd take the example of dressrosa which started in a group battle, but Luffy ending up fighting Doffy in a one-on-one

Now let's talk about the reasons:

1- First of all, before the arc even started, Oda was already hyping up Luffy as a future 5th emperor of the seas

This suggest imo that Luffy should come out of the Wano arc as a powerhouse recognized on a similar threat level to that of an emperor

2- Before the arc started once again, Shanks was already suggesting that the time to meet Luffy was close, and that was before Luffy's udon training that made him much stronger

And while we're still in the Wano arc, Oda implied that Shanks is about to move

Which further suggest the time for their meeting is coming closer, a meeting that Shanks only wanted to happen when Luffy would be recognized as a great pirate(yonko)

This could once again only happen if Luffy comes out of the arc recognized as a yonko level threat

3- In the One Piece newspaper vol2 translated by Sandman, Oda pointed out that when Kaido was introduced(shortly after Doflamingo's defeat), he didn't think Luffy could defeat such a strong character yet.

The yet is important here, because it means Oda was already thinking back then about ways for Luffy to defeat him, and since then, Luffy learned new tricks like future sight from his battle with Katakuri, allowing him to predict things in advance, and level3 hardening on his way to learn level2, allowing him to bypass Kaido's durability even with a gear3 attack and thus his way not to make Kaido's defeat appear just because Luffy's punch is so strong. By giving him future sight, and level 3 hardening, it granted to Luffy new tricks that Oda thought in his mind could make Kaido's defeat satisfying for the reader

4- In his introduction, Kaido's main theme was resolving around the fact that you always have to bet on him in a 1 on 1 fight


And we know Oda always love to make Luffy destroy legendary myths like he did with Katakuri's track-record

This is why imo, Oda would at one point make Luffy fight Kaido in a 1 on 1, beat him and destroy this myth around always betting on Kaido in a 1 on 1

5- In the latest chapter, Oda decided for Luffy to be the one to carry the burden of Oden and his retainers in order to save Wano infront of the yonko


Which imo will lead to Luffy being recognized as the savior of Wano

Thanks for reading :optimistic:

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I've been saying this all this time, even before Wano I said that Luffy is ought to destroy Kaido's 1v1 record.

I think that act 3 will end with the worstgen defeat, then, Luffy and his friends will escape from Anigashima. During that period of time Kaido will fully recover from his wounds from the fight against supernovas, while Luffy will use that time to train even more-and come up with something more powerful than gear 4th (maybe gear 5th). After that, act 4 will be about the raid on Anigashima and will mostly focus on the war itself, we'll see Zoro vs King, Sanji vs Queen, Jinbe vs Jack, Flying six vs strowhats etc. While act 5 will be mostly about Luffy vs Kaido. I believe that act 5 will be 'Luffy vs Kaido', with Luffy revealing his new gear 5th in act 5.
 
Master OF Haki

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Rivaille said:
So you think that Luffy will be the WSC after Wano?
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No! Because all strength titles aren't about fighting power but about something specific, like for example: WSC=Physical strength and durability, WSM=Physical strength and endurance, WSS=skill and precision etc. Whitbeard was known as the WSM way before Roger became the PK but Whitbeard was never stronger than Roger, at the very least they were equal, Kaido was essentially defeated by Oden, Mihawk became the WSS whiteout defeating his rival Shanks nor all swordsmen in one piece world.
 
Rivaille

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Master OF Haki said:
No! Because all strength titles aren't about fighting power but about something specific, like for example: WSC=Physical strength and durability, WSM=Physical strength and endurance, WSS=skill and precision etc. Whitbeard was known as the WSM way before Roger became the PK but Whitbeard was never stronger than Roger, at the very least they were equal, Kaido was essentially defeated by Oden, Mihawk became the WSS whiteout defeating his rival Shanks nor all swordsmen in one piece world.
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There is no canon information that validate the idea that the strength title are not about fighting power in general but about a specific aspect of the character.

Saying that the WSS is about skill and precision is inaccurate when the only thing we saw Zoro train is his physical strength and his Haki. Furthermore there is absolutely no way to evaluates swordsmanship skill in One Piece. Can you tell me who is the most skill between Zoro and Vista and why?

Zoro will become the WSS by beating the guy who have the title not after a contest of skill and precision in front of judges. Therefore if Luffy beats Kaido in a 1v1 fight he will held the WSC title. As simple as that.
 
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