Powers & Abilities Enma is just a training wheel.

Doggo

Welcome to the House of Hope
So, if Enma is a training tool, is he going to throw it away once he completely masters it?
He took a training sword to fight a Yonko?
Do you people like having Zoro being portrayed as a fucking moron?

Is not a "mere training tool".
Its a power up, but it's not free. He must learn how to properly use it.
A gun is a power up. But if you cant hit the target 5 feet in front of you, it doesnt do shit. You have to TRAIN with it.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
So, if Enma is a training tool, is he going to throw it away once he completely masters it?
He took a training sword to fight a Yonko?
Do you people like having Zoro being portrayed as a fucking moron?

Is not a "mere training tool".
Its a power up, but it's not free. He must learn how to properly use it.
A gun is a power up. But if you cant hit the target 5 feet in front of you, it doesnt do shit. You have to TRAIN with it.
Lmfao how the fuck do you have the nerve to call anyone a moron when you come out with dumb shit like that.
Whats it powered up ?
What did holding enma with no training make better ? Go on
 
It's literally say that Enma and Shusui are in the same ranks lol.


And if Zoro manage to turned Enma into a black blade, its rank will rise.
Being the same rank sword but already being black means Shusui has an advantage. The sword was unbreakable and we all know how important it is for a swordsman not to nick his sword.

So Enma is not an upgrade at all. This means that because it depends on Zoro to make it black... HE is the power up:myman:
 
Being the same rank sword but already being black means Shusui has an advantage. The sword was unbreakable and we all know how important it is for a swordsman not to nick his sword.

So Enma is not an upgrade at all. This means that because it depends on Zoro to make it black... HE is the power up:myman:
Which was important until Haki was stated to make all swords as strong as black swords
 

Doggo

Welcome to the House of Hope
Lmfao how the fuck do you have the nerve to call anyone a moron when you come out with dumb shit like that.
Whats it powered up ?
What did holding enma with no training make better ? Go on
Honestly. It didn't.
But the very character we are discussing said that he was gonna get stronger once he mastered that sword.
Didn't he?
It was not a SBS crap, not a databook shit. It was the own character. Inside the story, that explicitly said it.
I know you people like to play fantasy zoro-land in your heads, but please, try to actually graps the concepts of what a power up is, and what forms it can take, before spitting this "power up is this because I want it to be only this" bullshit, will you?
:cheers:
Peace, homie.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Honestly. It didn't.
But the very character we are discussing said that he was gonna get stronger once he mastered that sword.
Didn't he?
It was not a SBS crap, not a databook shit. It was the own character. Inside the story, that explicitly said it.
I know you people like to play fantasy zoro-land in your heads, but please, try to actually graps the concepts of what a power up is, and what forms it can take, before spitting this "power up is this because I want it to be only this" bullshit, will you?
:cheers:
Peace, homie.
He would get stronger AFTER MASTERING IT THROUGH TRAINING
Not just by picking up
Weights at the gym arent a power up if i touch heavy weights with no training im not much stronger
Its not too much to ask for you to try use your brain
 

Doggo

Welcome to the House of Hope
Which was important until Haki was stated to make all swords as strong as black swords
Black sword is nothing more than a sword that was imbued with Haki and just stayed that way. Does it have permament Haki? We shall still see it.
Zoro turned his swords black against Pica. But not a permament transformation. That's really not a complicated concept to grasp at all.
 

Doggo

Welcome to the House of Hope
He would get stronger AFTER MASTERING IT THROUGH TRAINING
Not just by picking up
Weights at the gym arent a power up if i touch heavy weights with no training im not much stronger
Its not too much to ask for you to try use your brain
Weights at the gym are not power ups. Ok.
But do you take them with you to fight? You think you Rock Lee or some shit?
Why would you intentionally nerf yourself fighting the most dangerous enemy you have encountered yet?
Again, IF its just a training wheel, it's just DUMB to use it, because if you dont master it during the fight, you simply will get rekt. Taking that chance is a moronic thing to do.
Got what I mean now?
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Weights at the gym are not power ups. Ok.
But do you take them with you to fight? You think you Rock Lee or some shit?
Why would you intentionally nerf yourself fighting the most dangerous enemy you have encountered yet?
Again, IF its just a training wheel, it's just DUMB to use it, because if you dont master it during the fight, you simply will get rekt. Taking that chance is a moronic thing to do.
Got what I mean now?
No its not. Its still a sword. That he needs to use. Stop being dumb.
 

Doggo

Welcome to the House of Hope
I just find quite amusing how people like to simply change concepts in their heads for no reason at all, except to make a character look better than he is, but, in the process, coming with ideas that simply make the character look silly.
Despite the character already having a good portrayal.
Quite amusing, indeed.
 
A power up is something which you get weaker when you lose it. What you need ask is if Zoro loses Enma, does he lose anything besides the sword?
Basically if he replaced the sword with the one he gave up, does he become weaker?

The answer to both is no which is why the sword is a training wheel to make Zoro stronger and not a sword which gives Zoro additional power
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
Weights at the gym are not power ups. Ok.
But do you take them with you to fight? You think you Rock Lee or some shit?
Why would you intentionally nerf yourself fighting the most dangerous enemy you have encountered yet?
Again, IF its just a training wheel, it's just DUMB to use it, because if you dont master it during the fight, you simply will get rekt. Taking that chance is a moronic thing to do.
Got what I mean now?
There's not much to change, rather it better not be added when not needed.

Claiming that Enma is more powerful than any other o wazamono is outright stretched, when Zoro could have very well simply meant that he can't use Enma's full power yet due lack of mastery. In that case Enma and Shusui would both be 100, but Zoro would still be defected with Enma.
 
So, if Enma is a training tool, is he going to throw it away once he completely masters it?
He took a training sword to fight a Yonko?
Do you people like having Zoro being portrayed as a fucking moron?

Is not a "mere training tool".
Its a power up, but it's not free. He must learn how to properly use it.
A gun is a power up. But if you cant hit the target 5 feet in front of you, it doesnt do shit. You have to TRAIN with it.
When he gets used to Enma he will get stronger but FOR NOW its nerf. Zoro thought he could get used to it in a week but he didnt and now is nerfed against the Yonkos
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Enma is nothing more than a way to give Zoro Ryou since he can't train it fast enough
Zoro already has ryou Enma force him to better control his ryou
 
Which was important until Haki was stated to make all swords as strong as black swords
The same Zoro who comments on the unmatched hardness of Shusui also checked Sandai for damage after hitting Pica. A black sword is more than an aesthetic and it's more than a "black belt" equivalent, given that Whitebeard, Big Mom, Shanks, and Roger have yet to hold black blades and Mihawk is called the world's strongest despite not beating any of them.
 

Zolo

Cope Doctor
How many thread do you need to make zorobois :seriously: zoro said it loud and clear in this chapter that enma is power up.... stop crying allready... when sanji took an L I didnt see an army of defenders creating thread every hour to defend him.... geez :whitepress: Zoro is relegated to killers level... we sanji and luffy fans allways knew this, but yet you made absurd claims of zoro=luffy... take an L and relax.
 
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