Speculations The inspiration for the strongest character and his power?

Is it logical for ultimate challenge to be unrivalled under the heavens?

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nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#1

I have spoken before how many of One Piece's end-game strongest characters are inspired by the Journey to the West and One Piece itself also being a journey towards the west, on the Grand Line, so to say... I drew many parallels with recent manhua(?) of the same name and today I would like to take under the loupe the strongest character of the same author who wrote Journey to the West but in a different work that came before it - Feng Shen Ji.

This is another speculation about Mihawk's power. If you are not interested, feel free not to read further.
At some point, Oda will have to flesh out his powers and explain why he is what he is - the ultimate challenge.
It is the most important opponent Zoro will ever have so you could imagine that quite some planning will go into Mihawk's abilities.

When Oda says he has to take a break to do some research for the manga, he probably just ends up reading the work of others and stealing their ideas and transforming them a little before incorporating them into his own work. Or he just calls in sick while actually taking a trip to Africa...
So, while researching potential abilities that he might plan to give to Mihawk, reading Feng Shen Ji might be one of those sources...

Why do I think that?
Well, I have been putting quite some thought into how Oda can make all 10 Strawhats make an impact in the world and be unparalleled.
Obviously, it will be done through their dreams because Dreams are one of the main pillars of the One Piece story.
I have said before that I think all 10 Strawhat members will have impossible dreams - something no other can achieve.

How would Zoro's impossible dream reflect onto the world and what does it mean to be impossible?
It means he has to do what no one else can - beat Mihawk. Only that way, Zoro's dream is impossible.
How is that actually achieved? Just by making Mihawk the strongest in 1vs1 among all in existence?
Well yeah but that is a very simplified answer and I want to go deeper into it.

The strongest character of Feng Shen Ji is an Ancient God named Hei Long, usually just called Tian(Heaven).
He is straight up without equal, invincible and unbeatable. The number of opponents plays no role to him.
Even the MC of that manga or manhua, whatever it is, idk the difference, doesn't stand a chance against him.
And that says a lot considering that the MC is a child of prophecy, stacked with all the possible abilities.
And MC himself knows beating Tian is straight up impossible and instead proposes a challenge - to take his spear away from him.

That is how the MC achieved "victory" while actually beating Tian was never an option. Nobody ever came close to it.
Does that sound like a solid inspiration for Mihawk, the impossible dream? Absolutely!

Let's take a look at the possible parallels between Mihawk and Tian:

Tian is an Ancient God with 2 dragons growing out of his back and supreme commander of a huge beast that obeys him - also a dragon.
Mihawk's name Dracule means son of a dragon so they have a dragon connection of some sort.

He wields the strongest weapon in the show - the blood spear while Mihawk also wields the strongest weapon - the black blade Yoru.
The connection through the strongest weapons is also there.

There is also a parallel in their personality, they do not remember the names of individuals that they do not consider strong.
Another parallel is that they do not draw their weapons for people they don't take seriously or find outstanding in any way.

Another parallel is that Tian likes to impale his opponent, with his spear or the long dragons that grow out of his back.
Mihawk is based on Vlad the Impaler and wanted to impale Luffy in Marineford.

Another parallel is that Tian sees everything in the world despite not being physically present.
Some events in OP could explain Mihawk's concept nickname being Clairvoyant, the hawk eyes that see everything.

Another thing is that Tian as well is severely holding back his true power most of the time.

This brings us to the core ability that makes Tian invincible - the strongest among Divine Powers - Monochromatic Wall.
While Tian possesses many abilities himself, despite not being as stacked as the MC of that show, this is the ability that nobody can beat.
The MC himself has the same ability but the one from Tian is on a whole different level.

So, what is a Monochromatic Wall?
It is a power that creates pressure in all directions once activated and shades the surroundings into black and white in its domain.
Invisible barrier so to say which suffocates and gets stronger the closer you are to Tian.
Sounds unimpressive? Well, far from it because nobody has managed to fully break through it, at least not when he is actively using it.
And there is another stage to it that only Tian achieved, a White Wall that blinds everything in the vicinity and increases the pressure further.
To the point of blood vessels being ruptured on one of the strongest characters in the show(top 3?) just from being in the vicinity of it.

Is there anything in One Piece that resembles this power? Of course there is!
Haki barrier itself!

We have literally seen back in Fishman Island Zoro demonstrate the same thing that Tian usually does but on a smaller scale.
Hyozou's 8-sword style was stopped in its tracks by a haki barrier. The only difference is that Zoro's wasn't omnidirectional.
But who says it cannot be? After all, Joyboy's rope haki burst was omnidirectional!

Of course, Oda would not copy this 1:1 but this might very well be the inspiration and the reason why Mihawk is unbeatable.
The strongest haki that nobody can break through!

Whether this will also be used the same way Tian does it, in omnidirectional way of just as coating on the sword is unclear.
However, the result is the same - it cannot be beaten unless faced by the same ability that is even stronger aka stronger haki.

To summarize Tian's abilities:


As you can all see, all of these abilities of Tian are very similar to what is doable with no-touch barriers in One Piece world.
The strongest Monochromatic Wall is unbeatable and that is being built up in OP with haki as well.
Since Dressrosa we know this:
>Once I am coated in haki, I am invincible!
>Only if your haki is stronger than mine!

Just like Monochromatic Wall, haki barriers behave nearly the same.
Once activated and placed in front of attacks, they are very rarely being pierced through.
So, considering that Mihawk's haki forged the strongest weapon in the world, his barrier is the strongest.

This is a perfect explanation why nobody is capable of beating Mihawk.
Does it make sense?

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#7
Mihawk can cut Kamusari since they're YC level.


:steef:

All I know is when it is time for Mihawk to shine, we won't see something like a small ass air bar but massive slashes cutting mountains here and there casually.

If Mihawk was with Moses, he would have parted the red sea himself.

:milaugh:
 
#9
Mihawk's Fight will be like any other of Zoro's Main Fights,
He will face a Challenge where Everything He learned so far becomes Obsolete

The Rule is Simple,
In each Main Duel, Zoro learns an Important Ingredient that is required to be Greatest Swordsman,
Following Duel is always created in a way where even if Zoro Peaked in his previous Lessons, He wouldn't Win

For example, even if He had Top 1 Weapon (Hatchan Fight), Lethality (Mr. 1 Fight), Strength (Ohm Fight) & Technique (Kaku Fight), He would still Lose against Zombie Ryuma if He wasn't Faster

This means that Mihawk's Fighting Style is created in a way that even if you had Peak Weapon, Peak Lethality, Strength, Technique, Speed, CoO, CoA & CoC + Another 9th Lesson (His Upcoming Fight), you would still Lose unless you learn 10th & Final Lesson

I like your idea that for Mihawk to Counter all of this, He must have an Invincible Defense, but the problem is that it wd answer how No One can beat him, but it wouldn't answer how He can beat them even if They have Peak Stats

I think the Answer can be taken from Two Facts we know about Mihawk:

1. His Animal Companions were Monkeys
2. He Combines Gentle & Strong Blade Perfectly

So i think Defensively, Mihawk is just like those Monkeys but on Steroids, meaning He has the Ability to "Match/Copy" any Physical/Haki Feats & Stats, meaning regardless of how far you get, you can't Blitz or Overpower or bypass his CoA or CoC or catch his CoO off-guard ... etc because He can Mirror your Technique & Stats & Plan

As for Offensively, i think combining Gentle & Strong Blade leads him to do something that no Swordsman was shown able to do, which is making his Techniques Hit/Apply more than once, it's like imagine you're against Consort Radhan from Elden Ring, his Techniques will continue as if He used Shadow Clones

An Offence that can Counter Anyone because you have to deal with Techniques that Apply multiple times but Performed by a Single Animation, combined with a Defense that cannot be beaten because it's like facing a Mirror, you can't beat your own Limits/Stats
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#11
Will Mihawk also let Zoro win a silly challenge in exchange for his title?
Zoro is a different breed, he isn't satisfied with that. :milaugh:
I have a surprise for you! :endthis:
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They know! :crazwhat:


So i think Defensively, Mihawk is just like those Monkeys but on Steroids, meaning He has the Ability to "Match/Copy" any Physical/Haki Feats & Stats, meaning regardless of how far you get, you can't Blitz or Overpower or bypass his CoA or CoC or catch his CoO off-guard ... etc because He can Mirror your Technique & Stats & Plan
This might be possible, Kaido already did this with Drunken Thief.
Maybe Mihawk too has a way of copying abilities.

As for Offensively, i think combining Gentle & Strong Blade leads him to do something that no Swordsman was shown able to do, which is making his Techniques Hit/Apply more than once, it's like imagine you're against Consort Radhan from Elden Ring, his Techniques will continue as if He used Shadow Clones
Could be something to it, the name of the blade is intriguing.
He may have left us a hint in Marineford when he was about to attack Luffy and said - This power knows no bounds or something like that. Whatever it is, it should be solved with Zoro overcoming it and powering up, the question is why will it be solved by that.
Why was it impossible to be solved before by others is the real question.
 
#12
This might be possible, Kaido already did this with Drunken Thief.
Maybe Mihawk too has a way of copying abilities.
True, Nice Catch,

Tbh if Zoro can Copy Kin'emon Technique just by witnessing it, then i'm sure Mihawk as Hawk-Eyed & Clairvoyant + Those Monkeys Reference, can definitely Copy Anything, i won't be surprised if He uses Hiryu Kaen or Divine Departure or Tashigi's Technique ... etc it's like Zoro is beating every Top Swordsman in History, not just Mihawk's Personal Sword-Style
Could be something to it, the name of the blade is intriguing.
He may have left us a hint in Marineford when he was about to attack Luffy and said - This power knows no bounds or something like that. Whatever it is, it should be solved with Zoro overcoming it and powering up, the question is why will it be solved by that.
Why was it impossible to be solved before by others is the real question.
I think if We look at it from "SH Dream" Perspective, We can understand why,
Zoro vs Mihawk doesn't need to be just about a Personal Fight or Protecting others or let Luffy pass, it should fix the World somehow

For example, even if SHs don't know it, but They are indirectly gonna solve World Problems, such as Nami's Story being about Poverty & Sanji's Story is about Hunger & Chopper's is about Sickness & Jinbe's about Racism & Usopp's about Fear ... etc

Zoro's Story as seen from his Backstory was about "Weakness", He doesn't want to feel Weak or see others end up like Kuina,
So Zoro must Unlock something that allows anyone to become Strong, it's like He removes their "Limiter", allowing any Fighter regardless of Age & Gender & Race to have Infinite Potential
Since Zoro's Dream is tied to Defeating Mihawk, then Mihawk is the one in possession of this Limit Breaker Treasure, that's his Secret, and i believe it's just like Punk Records or All Blue or DF Tree ... etc a Place where all Combat Skills are Shared

A Place where you can Train Infinitely without losing time, something like The Hyperbolic Time Chamber, but a Place that you can't see or access without Special Eyes, without being Clairvoyant, where your Body & Mind & Spirit passively grow stronger even though you seem to be just spending time farming & drinking, not even seen working out once to stay in shape

I mean look at Hakuba/Cavendish (Another Swordsman with Eyes like Mihawk's), how can Hakuba be way way faster than Cavendish if He using same Body & Sword & Spirit? If it's only the Mind that's changing then Hakuba shd simply have a different Sword-Style but their Stats would remain the same

For example, if Lucci entered Kalifa's Mind, He would have same Soru Speed as her because that's what her Doriki can do, his Knowledge won't magically make her Doriki go times seven.

So Hakuba clearly wasn't just a Mind Swap, He came from somewhere else, bringing New Stats with him.
Mihawk is simply Champion of that Place, his Stats have No Limits because anyone who faces him trained for Years or Decades, Mihawk trained equivalent of multiple lifetimes & fought countless times inside that Place (It's like a Simulation, which i believe is some type of Underworld)

And it matches with Zoro's Previous Fights, They are always about Quantity vs Quality.
Hatchan Fight was about Six vs Three Superior Swords
Mr. 1 Fight was about Hundreds of Cuts vs Single Superior Cut
Ohm was also a Spammer
Kaku Spammed Techniques
Zombie Ryuma's Style & Speed allowed him to keep thrusting with his Sword multiple times (Zoro said his Sword is gonna break if Fight continued) ... etc

So Mihawk vs Zoro is gonna be about Infinite Stats vs One Ultimate Stat.
I don't know how Zoro will do it, but it's an Impossible Feat, it's like trying to beat Saitama (Similar to how Garou was close to Saitama at first & then the gap started to grow passively)
 
#13

I have spoken before how many of One Piece's end-game strongest characters are inspired by the Journey to the West and One Piece itself also being a journey towards the west, on the Grand Line, so to say... I drew many parallels with recent manhua(?) of the same name and today I would like to take under the loupe the strongest character of the same author who wrote Journey to the West but in a different work that came before it - Feng Shen Ji.

This is another speculation about Mihawk's power. If you are not interested, feel free not to read further.
At some point, Oda will have to flesh out his powers and explain why he is what he is - the ultimate challenge.
It is the most important opponent Zoro will ever have so you could imagine that quite some planning will go into Mihawk's abilities.

When Oda says he has to take a break to do some research for the manga, he probably just ends up reading the work of others and stealing their ideas and transforming them a little before incorporating them into his own work. Or he just calls in sick while actually taking a trip to Africa...
So, while researching potential abilities that he might plan to give to Mihawk, reading Feng Shen Ji might be one of those sources...

Why do I think that?
Well, I have been putting quite some thought into how Oda can make all 10 Strawhats make an impact in the world and be unparalleled.
Obviously, it will be done through their dreams because Dreams are one of the main pillars of the One Piece story.
I have said before that I think all 10 Strawhat members will have impossible dreams - something no other can achieve.

How would Zoro's impossible dream reflect onto the world and what does it mean to be impossible?
It means he has to do what no one else can - beat Mihawk. Only that way, Zoro's dream is impossible.
How is that actually achieved? Just by making Mihawk the strongest in 1vs1 among all in existence?
Well yeah but that is a very simplified answer and I want to go deeper into it.

The strongest character of Feng Shen Ji is an Ancient God named Hei Long, usually just called Tian(Heaven).
He is straight up without equal, invincible and unbeatable. The number of opponents plays no role to him.
Even the MC of that manga or manhua, whatever it is, idk the difference, doesn't stand a chance against him.
And that says a lot considering that the MC is a child of prophecy, stacked with all the possible abilities.
And MC himself knows beating Tian is straight up impossible and instead proposes a challenge - to take his spear away from him.

That is how the MC achieved "victory" while actually beating Tian was never an option. Nobody ever came close to it.
Does that sound like a solid inspiration for Mihawk, the impossible dream? Absolutely!

Let's take a look at the possible parallels between Mihawk and Tian:

Tian is an Ancient God with 2 dragons growing out of his back and supreme commander of a huge beast that obeys him - also a dragon.
Mihawk's name Dracule means son of a dragon so they have a dragon connection of some sort.

He wields the strongest weapon in the show - the blood spear while Mihawk also wields the strongest weapon - the black blade Yoru.
The connection through the strongest weapons is also there.

There is also a parallel in their personality, they do not remember the names of individuals that they do not consider strong.
Another parallel is that they do not draw their weapons for people they don't take seriously or find outstanding in any way.

Another parallel is that Tian likes to impale his opponent, with his spear or the long dragons that grow out of his back.
Mihawk is based on Vlad the Impaler and wanted to impale Luffy in Marineford.

Another parallel is that Tian sees everything in the world despite not being physically present.
Some events in OP could explain Mihawk's concept nickname being Clairvoyant, the hawk eyes that see everything.

Another thing is that Tian as well is severely holding back his true power most of the time.

This brings us to the core ability that makes Tian invincible - the strongest among Divine Powers - Monochromatic Wall.
While Tian possesses many abilities himself, despite not being as stacked as the MC of that show, this is the ability that nobody can beat.
The MC himself has the same ability but the one from Tian is on a whole different level.

So, what is a Monochromatic Wall?
It is a power that creates pressure in all directions once activated and shades the surroundings into black and white in its domain.
Invisible barrier so to say which suffocates and gets stronger the closer you are to Tian.
Sounds unimpressive? Well, far from it because nobody has managed to fully break through it, at least not when he is actively using it.
And there is another stage to it that only Tian achieved, a White Wall that blinds everything in the vicinity and increases the pressure further.
To the point of blood vessels being ruptured on one of the strongest characters in the show(top 3?) just from being in the vicinity of it.

Is there anything in One Piece that resembles this power? Of course there is!
Haki barrier itself!

We have literally seen back in Fishman Island Zoro demonstrate the same thing that Tian usually does but on a smaller scale.
Hyozou's 8-sword style was stopped in its tracks by a haki barrier. The only difference is that Zoro's wasn't omnidirectional.
But who says it cannot be? After all, Joyboy's rope haki burst was omnidirectional!

Of course, Oda would not copy this 1:1 but this might very well be the inspiration and the reason why Mihawk is unbeatable.
The strongest haki that nobody can break through!

Whether this will also be used the same way Tian does it, in omnidirectional way of just as coating on the sword is unclear.
However, the result is the same - it cannot be beaten unless faced by the same ability that is even stronger aka stronger haki.

To summarize Tian's abilities:


As you can all see, all of these abilities of Tian are very similar to what is doable with no-touch barriers in One Piece world.
The strongest Monochromatic Wall is unbeatable and that is being built up in OP with haki as well.
Since Dressrosa we know this:
>Once I am coated in haki, I am invincible!
>Only if your haki is stronger than mine!

Just like Monochromatic Wall, haki barriers behave nearly the same.
Once activated and placed in front of attacks, they are very rarely being pierced through.
So, considering that Mihawk's haki forged the strongest weapon in the world, his barrier is the strongest.

This is a perfect explanation why nobody is capable of beating Mihawk.
Does it make sense?

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Great post, but ain't no way a fraud like Lolda could think of that good of an inspiration for Mihawk.
 
#15
Bro this is literally the truth Mihawk is block all things and destroy all things he just doesn't because he doesn't feel like it and actually he can kill people like 8 times in the same animation and he could have 5 animations hitting you at the same time that means you will die 40 times

And all of his animations have adcoo so they have probably 99.7% dodge rate so only someone like Imu can hit one and if he can't dodge he uses the counter all things and he doesn't need to dodge with his coo when it's a super bad situation so he can probably mid diff Imu I think only if Imu has a black blade
 
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#16
Bro this is literally the truth Mihawk is block all things and destroy all things he just doesn't because he doesn't feel like it and actually he can kill people like 8 times in the same animation and he could have 5 animations hitting you at the same time that means you will die 40 times

And all of his animations have adcoo so they have probably 99.7% dodge rate so only someone like Imu can hit one and if he can't dodge he uses the counter all things and he doesn't need to dodge with his coo when it's a super bad situation so he can probably mid diff Imu I think only if Imu has a black blade
Sorry, but I'm just picturing an 8-year-old typing this all enraged and it's fucking hilarious.
 
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