Speculations CG and New Recruits

[Blazing Lion]

I know there are already many threads on this subject but most on focused on CG becoming a Warlords united sort of organization. There are many notable names that are speculated to join the CG. We have no confirmation that CG will actually get more members but people seem to take it as something that will inevitably happen. Ever since GV incident and introduction of Rocks people are speculating of who will be this generations rendition of the Rocks Pirates. There is a good chance of BBPs being that but there showings so far have been pretty underwhelming. Compare Rocks, WB, Shiki, BM, Kaido to BB, Kuzan, Shiryu etc. and there is no comparison. We have seen the YCs of BBPs getting negged by other chars like Sabo, Boa, Garp etc.

As a crew the CG are the weakest of all Yonkos (Mihawk cant carry that hard). But with Buggy falling upward trope what are the chances that CG becomes the Rocks Pirates of this gen? Just listing the most assumed chars along with other possibilities.
1. Doffy (most speculated one, ID break) - ex Warlord
2. Moria (another very likely candidate) - ex Warlord
3. Weevil (another ID break candidate) - ex Warlord
4. Boa (lost her Warlord status and being targeted plus she seems to respect Mihawk) - ex Warlord
5. Kid (lost his crew and ship, makes comeback and goes against Shanks/becomes relevant EoS, meets Buggy and Mihawk, two people with ties to Shanks) - SN
6. Law (lost his crew and ship, unaware of Buggy being a fraud) - ex Warlord + SN
7. Apoo (finally forms that alliance with Kid) - SN
8. Urouge (how he is reintroduced into the story) - SN

A crew consisting of these guys would be very strong and reminiscent of Rocks Pirates. On one hand I dont think Oda will waste his characters and members of important groups like Warlords and Supernovas, they will have some role in the final war imo. The other thing though is that Buggy has hinted the way that CG will target OP and that is through speed rather than fighting so gathering a strong crew is not the way it will go.

Who do you think will join the CG? Addons like Perona and Killer like Mr.1 with Croc are a given. The ones allied with Luffy and not his rivals will obviously not join like Kuma and Jinbe and Bege and Drake and Bonney etc.

 

[Roo]

Anybody who joins will end up below Croc, so you can disqualify Kid and Law. I don't see Hancock working under a man either, it would take some convincing from Croc and Mihawk who she could at least respect to let Buggy be the leader.

I don't think a prison break arc is happening considering the narrator talked up Luffy's prison break as the only one in ages, I think Weevil likely gets rescued before he sets a foot in IP.

 

[Blazing Lion]

Anybody who joins will end up below Croc, so you can disqualify Kid and Law. I don't see Hancock working under a man either, it would take some convincing from Croc and Mihawk who she could at least respect to let Buggy be the leader.

I don't think a prison break arc is happening considering the narrator talked up Luffy's prison break as the only one in ages, I think Weevil likely gets rescued before he sets a foot in IP.

Thats the thing, they are all captains on their own, they are allied but none recognize somebody being above them, same as Rocks. For this very reason I can see Kid and Law joining. Nothing requires them being weaker than Croc.

 

[Roo]

Thats the thing, they are all captains on their own, they are allied but none recognize somebody being above them, same as Rocks. For this very reason I can see Kid and Law joining. Nothing requires them being weaker than Croc.

Oda loves his structures. It's why all Yonko crews have a strongest, second strongest and third strongest. It's probably going to be the same with the holy knights, which Banks having a second strongest who will fight Zoro.

Mihawk is already a huge deviation from Oda's structure and even then luffy vs buggy in some kind of competition instead of fight makes sense from a character standpoint, leaving the structure similar if we ignore those two. Mihawk is the strongest, Croc and then we'll need someone weaker than Croc.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Kaido will join

 

[Blazing Lion]

Oda loves his structures. It's why all Yonko crews have a strongest, second strongest and third strongest. It's probably going to be the same with the holy knights, which Banks having a second strongest who will fight Zoro.

Mihawk is already a huge deviation from Oda's structure and even then luffy vs buggy in some kind of competition instead of fight makes sense from a character standpoint, leaving the structure similar if we ignore those two. Mihawk is the strongest, Croc and then we'll need someone weaker than Croc.

The very idea of Rocks was that it wasnt structured like that and CG wont be a direct opponent of SHPs like that. Who will Luffy fight cause Mihawk is Zoros fight and Luffy aint gonna fight Croc or Buggy so the structure requirement is not necessary for CG.

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Kaido will join

Kaido vs Luffy rematch 1v1 no interference

 

[Roo]

The very idea of Rocks was that it wasnt structured like that and CG wont be a direct opponent of SHPs like that. Who will Luffy fight cause Mihawk is Zoros fight and Luffy aint gonna fight Croc or Buggy so the structure requirement is not necessary for CG.

I said we can ignore those two because I can totally see Luffy agreeing to do something stupid that is not combat involved with buggy. Similarly how he agreed to do a davy back fight

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Whiki will join

 

[Kung-Fu Dugong]

Doffy alongside Croc or Moria wouldn't work, I feel, so I think that it's unlikely for him to join CG (not impossible though, actually it would be pretty cool). Moria has a higher possibility, he's arrogant but, for pity's sake, he must've learned now that he can't do things alone. Weevil is probably in Impel Down now, so his chances are low for now IMO (maybe he'll be released later in the story alongside Doffy for the final war? It looks like he never had a place in the story actually). Hancock is the least likely, 'cause she has Yonko Luffy as an ally currently, it wouldn't make sense to join a direct enemy, so she'll probably join the Grand Fleet (unless she joins CG to be a mole or something like that).

Kid (+ Killer) and Law are slim possibilities, they're more likely to join Luffy later on, IMO. Kid's distrust with alliances and Law's good relationship with Luffy put them out of the equation. Apoo might join them, but he apparently has a give-and-take relationship with Morgans currently, so he might settle down as an informant for now. Urouge looks like a lone wolf, so he won't join anyone IMO... he'll probably just help collaterally, like he did in WCI arc. You mentioned Bege as an unlikely addition, but I feel like he's one of the most likely to join CG. He isn't Luffy's ally currently and isn't particularly looking for the One Piece, but his modus operandi is joining big organizations to sabotage them from within; after they fall, he reaps the treasures left and the chaos he caused. CG is a good place to do something like that, considering that it's full of self-centered individuals with their own agendas. (Lola and Chiffon are both good friends of Nami, so I understand that they may cause a change of hearts in the Fire Tank Pirates, but the chances are still there IMO.)

Kuma, Bonney and Drake are unarguably out of question, I agree.

 

[nik87]

I think only Weevil will join.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Doffy Moriah 100 percent going to join
Weevil is very likely too

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

But with Buggy falling upward trope what are the chances that CG becomes the Rocks Pirates of this gen?

They will not no

cross guild will not get any more members because they don’t need anymore.

their role in the story isn’t to be an actual threat to anyone of importance per se. They exist just to cause havoc for the marines and then get Mihawk and Buggy to where the plot needs them.

cross guild will never have an all out war with the marines or another Yonko crew so they don’t need any such man power so they will not obtain any such man power

 

[jakerbreaker99]

Boa ain't joining

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They will not no

cross guild will not get any more members because they don’t need anymore.

their role in the story isn’t to be an actual threat to anyone of importance per se. They exist just to cause havoc for the marines and then get Mihawk and Buggy to where the plot needs them.

cross guild will never have an all out war with the marines or another Yonko crew so they don’t need any such man power so they will not obtain any such man power

Didn't crocodile or mihawk said they need more man power!

 

[Near]

Hopefully Moria joins because prison gains Moria and CG would be unstoppable

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Law ain't joining


Neither is midd, Boa or Urouge

 

[pocketcan]

Doflamingo. A lot of people already said it, but Doffy is too arrogant so he probably won't like the idea of being viewed as Buggy's subordinate. On the other hand he offered Croc to cooperate in the past, he was present during Roger's execution and he probably would like to be present during the final, well, of everything. But it's not like Croc thinks pleasantly of Doffy. So who will give in first? I think chances of him joining are 50/50.

Moria. I will be more surprised if him and Perona won't join. I fixated on the idea of them joining cause some of early sketches of CG poster featured Perona. And all the usual talk – Moria being present during Roger's execution, him wanting to become pk and loosing his ambition after being defeated by Kaido.

Weevil. Oda created him for something, but forgot. Maybe he will remember about Weevil and will try to utilize him at least through CG.

Boa. Eeeeeh. I can't see her really joining. She's too loyal to Luffy. Maybe she will join to get closer to Luffy and will immediatly abandon CG after reaching Luffy. Chances are really low.

Kid...hmm...I mean, I thought about it. He suffered a big defeat recently by Shanks. He is Shanks hater, Buggy is Shanks hater, yay!

Law. I was thinking about Law joining too. He's in dire situation right now, Straw Hats are far away and I feel like he needs someone to help him (at least temporarily) to get closer to true history. He was impressed by Buggy's ability to attract strong allies and he actually had a minimal positive experience cooperating with Buggy at the end of Marineford when everyone was trying to save Luffy and Jimbei so I feel like he doesn't think really terribly of Buggy.

I don't have much to say about Urouge or Apoo. They exist and they can join. It's not like there are obstacles.

But I feel like CG really can make it without additional members. I think ImmaIvanoM is right, CG exist to deliver Buggy and Mihawk to the final war and it can be done through Buggy's gag. Or they just can try to be faster than everyone else and try to pick minimum fights like Buggy suggested. Imo, technically formation of CG was needed to link Buggy with Mihawk cause Buggy even with his gag needs at least one top tier to deliver him to the final war, to survive and to function in the final war (he would probably survive anyway, but still). Mihawk, obviously, is needed for Zoro vs Mihawk to happen (or at least he should demonstrate something of worth as the strongest swordsman) so Buggy just draggs him into confrontation.

 

[nik87]

Doflamingo - he had the biggest arc any Warlord ever had and his show off is in post-TS, just before we ventured into the Yonko territories. It is very unlikely for him to join CG to show off again while having nothing new to show off because he displayed everything.
The only reason Doffy could end up in CG is if Oda wants to round up all former Warlords into one organization but his role would be minor.

Moriah - this is a strong candidate for joining CG and I would like it personally despite not believing he will join. The reason is that Moriah's show-off happened a long time ago in pre-TS and he has shown off very little himself due to focus being on zombie Oars as the main obstacle instead of Moriah himself.

Weevil - the reason why I think he is the only one who will join CG is because all other organizations have at least 2 top tiers and CG is the only one that doesn't. A simpleminded powerhouse that Buggy can order around sounds like a perfect addition. However, if CG's purpose is battle between 3 triggers, even Weevil doesn't have to join but he seems like a character who has a role to play in future so...

All others are not joining for one reason - none of them consider Buggy as the person who is fitting to be their captain.
They don't know the context that he is just a frontman that Mihawk and Crocodile willingly let take the spotlight.
Technically it is possible for them to consider CG as an option due to Mihawk and Crocodile imagining if such organization is good enough for them, it could be good enough for them as well but it is very unlikely to happen.

 

[Shiroyru]

Katakuri

 

[grey matter]

There will be two events where pirates join CG:
- CG will invade Impel Down to break free pirates and have them join. This idea will be from Buggy and/or Crocodile, who were former ID prisoners. And most of the members of CG are ID level 2-4 members anyway, who followed Buggy.
Cross Guild, as it stands now, is ultimately formed by primarily ID prisoners. It will be thematic to keep going in this direction.

- there will be pirates joining through contacts with the main three members: Mihawk, Crocodile. Buggy

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The OG shichibukai bar Kuma and Jinbe will join, since CG is setup to thematically be the shichibukai crew.

So, for me the best picks are Moria, Doflamingo and Boa Hancock.
Moria - connection through Perona, who has contacts with Mihawk
Doflamingo - has connections with Crocodile, some kind of rivlary, will be broken free from ID and join.
Boa - connection through Rayleigh, who has contacts with Buggy

There could be other prominent members joining from ID as well.
Weevil would fit in with the shichibukai theme, so we can see him join.

I can see Doflamingo's underlings join post ID break as well, similar to how Crocodile's underlings are now in CG.

From the supernova. There is 0% chance Law, Kid and Killer join though.
Apoo, being the shameless snake he is, would be willing to join I guess if the situation favours him

 

[jakerbreaker99]

There will be two events where pirates join CG:
- CG will invade Impel Down to break free pirates and have them join. This idea will be from Buggy and/or Crocodile, who were former ID prisoners. And most of the members of CG are ID level 2-4 members anyway, who followed Buggy.
Cross Guild, as it stands now, is ultimately formed by primarily ID prisoners. It will be thematic to keep going in this direction.

- there will be pirates joining through contacts with the main three members: Mihawk, Crocodile. Buggy

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The OG shichibukai bar Kuma and Jinbe will join, since CG is setup to thematically be the shichibukai crew.

So, for me the best picks are Moria, Doflamingo and Boa Hancock.
Moria - connection through Perona, who has contacts with Mihawk
Doflamingo - has connections with Crocodile, some kind of rivlary, will be broken free from ID and join.
Boa - connection through Rayleigh, who has contacts with Buggy

There could be other prominent members joining from ID as well.
Weevil would fit in with the shichibukai theme, so we can see him join.

I can see Doflamingo's underlings join post ID break as well, similar to how Crocodile's underlings are now in CG.

From the supernova. There is 0% chance Law, Kid and Killer join though.
Apoo, being the shameless snake he is, would be willing to join I guess if the situation favours him

Boa ain't joining