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it’s not a proficiency, it’s using previous experience for a new application.

Sanjis been attacking characters internally since Ennies Lobby. His fire already does a lot of internal damage with IJ. If he can imbue that fire with CoC he’ll be doing internal CoC damage as well.

Luffy so far has just been coating his attacks in CoC, externally.

It’s not Sanji being more proficient with CoC, it’s Sanji allowing his fire to do most of the work and just imbuing it with the haki.
I do think Sanji’s fire will be key to hurting the immortals but I don’t think it’s going to have anything to do with Haki. I see what you’re getting at but I still think it’s unlikely. What you’re implying would be akin to Sanji learning internal destruction armament on the fly simply coz his fire does internal damage which imo is very unlikely.
 
I do think Sanji’s fire will be key to hurting the immortals but I don’t think it’s going to have anything to do with Haki. I see what you’re getting at but I still think it’s unlikely. What you’re implying would be akin to Sanji learning internal destruction armament on the fly simply coz his fire does internal damage which imo is very unlikely.
IMO it’s more just adding a hax breaking spice to his fire. The CoC is just another ingredient to enhance the result. Just like how he currently uses his Exo and CoA to enhance the heat, the CoC will just be to utilize this one application.

Then in the BB arc he’ll gain new fire by enhancing it further
 
Briefly looked up PoL for one piece and this article came up which I thought was interesting and will share ^^
https://note.com/yama05221555/n/n287e8ee91090
Should be able to translate it to english with google but basically this dude references Einstein's letter to his daughter and draws a correlation with Sanji's words to Kizaru

https://community.thriveglobal.com/einstein-letter-to-his-daughter-on-the-universal-force-of-love/

Did anyone else know about this? :risisweat:


*Anyways, I'd say don't sleep on PoL could end up being very interesting :kata:
 
Briefly looked up PoL for one piece and this article came up which I thought was interesting and will share ^^
https://note.com/yama05221555/n/n287e8ee91090
Should be able to translate it to english with google but basically this dude references Einstein's letter to his daughter and draws a correlation with Sanji's words to Kizaru

https://community.thriveglobal.com/einstein-letter-to-his-daughter-on-the-universal-force-of-love/

Did anyone else know about this? :risisweat:


*Anyways, I'd say don't sleep on PoL could end up being very interesting :kata:
Love conquers all :pepepopcorn:
 
Briefly looked up PoL for one piece and this article came up which I thought was interesting and will share ^^
https://note.com/yama05221555/n/n287e8ee91090
Should be able to translate it to english with google but basically this dude references Einstein's letter to his daughter and draws a correlation with Sanji's words to Kizaru

https://community.thriveglobal.com/einstein-letter-to-his-daughter-on-the-universal-force-of-love/

Did anyone else know about this? :risisweat:


*Anyways, I'd say don't sleep on PoL could end up being very interesting :kata:
That letter is falsely attributed to Einstein; there is no evidence that he ever wrote it. In fact the foremost authority on Einstein's writings, the Director and general editor of the EPP, who is also a historian of science has stated this. Now I don't know if Oda is aware of this, it doesn't matter anyway because PoL is a very real and recurring concept in One Piece.
 
my man smelling like the oceans blessing
The blessed one :finally:

As someone whose hometown is a seaside village on the Mediterranean, the idea of a "fishy smell" being negative is foreign to me. Because the seafood I experienced was all catch of the day, fresh and had a pleasant oceanic aroma. That's what Oda was referring to. But of course when a poor bastard living in a landlocked city with subpar market regulations smells a fish, it's not going to be a pleasant experience.
 
it’s not a proficiency, it’s using previous experience for a new application.

Sanjis been attacking characters internally since Ennies Lobby. His fire already does a lot of internal damage with IJ. If he can imbue that fire with CoC he’ll be doing internal CoC damage as well.

Luffy so far has just been coating his attacks in CoC, externally.

It’s not Sanji being more proficient with CoC, it’s Sanji allowing his fire to do most of the work and just imbuing it with the haki.
I don't think intangible things like flames can be imbued with haki.
 
That letter is falsely attributed to Einstein; there is no evidence that he ever wrote it. In fact the foremost authority on Einstein's writings, the Director and general editor of the EPP, who is also a historian of science has stated this. Now I don't know if Oda is aware of this, it doesn't matter anyway because PoL is a very real and recurring concept in One Piece.
Fair enuff ^^
Oda seems to referencing it regardless though so PoL has a lot of potential. It’s basically said to be an ability that transcends all & we’ve quite literally seen that in 4K with Sanji v Kizaru. Honestly if my gut feeling is right about PoL, then Sanji will be just fine even without CoC.
 
Fair enuff ^^
Oda seems to referencing it regardless though so PoL has a lot of potential. It’s basically said to be an ability that transcends all & we’ve quite literally seen that in 4K with Sanji v Kizaru. Honestly if my gut feeling is right about PoL, then Sanji will be just fine even without CoC.
I don't think we should separate the two. In the case of the M3, Oda seems to be tailoring their haki in a way that is distinct to their goals, strengths and personalities. Luffy advances his COC through learning and discovering new techniques, since he's a haki prodigy. Zoro on the other hand, as the swordsmen, is given Enma, a blade which forces COC out of him and allows for its utilization in combat. The thing unique to Sanji is how his emotions power him and serve as the basis for his strength. Oda could easily go the route of making PoL the avenue in which Sanji accesses COC, like Zoro with Enma and Luffy with his technique mastery.
 
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Fair enuff ^^
Oda seems to referencing it regardless though so PoL has a lot of potential. It’s basically said to be an ability that transcends all & we’ve quite literally seen that in 4K with Sanji v Kizaru. Honestly if my gut feeling is right about PoL, then Sanji will be just fine even without CoC.
I have nothing against Sanji being just fine without CoC, tbh I prefer it. However, I don’t think oda will go that route purely because oda wants to simplify things for himself.

Honestly, coc is about to become just better CoA imo.
 
Hello it's been a while, anyway this is probably what Gaban said to Sanji also or something along those lines.
If there is one character other than luffy that oda is mastering their character arc, it's sanji, and he will not forget this specific panel :


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Related also to his inner conflict with his lineage, resulting to him to stifle that spear in him...
 
it’s not a proficiency, it’s using previous experience for a new application.

Sanjis been attacking characters internally since Ennies Lobby. His fire already does a lot of internal damage with IJ. If he can imbue that fire with CoC he’ll be doing internal CoC damage as well.

Luffy so far has just been coating his attacks in CoC, externally.

It’s not Sanji being more proficient with CoC, it’s Sanji allowing his fire to do most of the work and just imbuing it with the haki.
Some of u are doubting Sanji too much

Every arc post Wano is a Sanji arc put that in mind
"Lets keep an eye over him"

Oda's words
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Hello it's been a while, anyway this is probably what Gaban said to Sanji also or something along those lines.
If there is one character other than luffy that oda is mastering their character arc, it's sanji, and he will not forget this specific panel :


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Related also to his inner conflict with his lineage, resulting to him to stifle that spear in him...
Yeah i think Gaban told something similar to what Zeff told Sanji
 

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
Idk why Gaban would say something to Sanji that Zeff said.
Zeff is sanji's father. he raised sanji. he knows sanjii.
Gaban just saw him for the first time.
Gaban had to test Luffy and Zoro, but suddenly he sees something in Sanji just because?
Nah fam.
I want this moment to be a moment for Sanji himself to have the desire to push himself further. Which is why I want him to lose here, in order to justify his growth later on.
All part of the process.
 
Idk why Gaban would say something to Sanji that Zeff said.
Zeff is sanji's father. he raised sanji. he knows sanjii.
Gaban just saw him for the first time.
Gaban had to test Luffy and Zoro, but suddenly he sees something in Sanji just because?
Nah fam.
I want this moment to be a moment for Sanji himself to have the desire to push himself further. Which is why I want him to lose here, in order to justify his growth later on.
All part of the process.
Agreed. As I said I think it may be about Sanji being useless. When he was considering keeping the raid suit his first question was about what would be more use to Luffy. Sanji needs to break that ideology he has of needing to be useful
 
Idk why Gaban would say something to Sanji that Zeff said.
Zeff is sanji's father. he raised sanji. he knows sanjii.
Gaban just saw him for the first time.
Gaban had to test Luffy and Zoro, but suddenly he sees something in Sanji just because?
Nah fam.
I want this moment to be a moment for Sanji himself to have the desire to push himself further. Which is why I want him to lose here, in order to justify his growth later on.
All part of the process.
That’s why I’m a little confused by the side panel that implies Gaban said something important to Sanji

People keep saying he said X, Y, or Z and none of them make sense narratively

“You’re stifling your spear of grit” as a callback would be cool but makes no sense since Gaban’s known Sanji for 5 minutes

“Your Germa genes are another way to counter them” How would he know that? There’s no guarantee that he knows Sanji’s name and even if he does how would he know that the exoskeleton has a unique reaction to Imu’s gifted immortality?

“Your flames can counter their regeneration” Again, no way for him to know he even uses fire. Not to mention it’s been all but confirmed that his flames are separate from Germa entirely so he’d have no way of knowing about its existence

Now Oda foregoes logic sometimes so it could still be any one of these but I can’t say it would be satisfying for Sanji’s character
 
Idk why Gaban would say something to Sanji that Zeff said.
Zeff is sanji's father. he raised sanji. he knows sanjii.
Gaban just saw him for the first time.
Gaban had to test Luffy and Zoro, but suddenly he sees something in Sanji just because?
Nah fam.
I want this moment to be a moment for Sanji himself to have the desire to push himself further. Which is why I want him to lose here, in order to justify his growth later on.
All part of the process.
Doesn't need to be the exact same thing Zeff said tho, but its just possibility, Gaban is an experienced man.. personally i think Gaban just denied Sanji having CoC at that moment. Whatever Gaban told him is certainly going to be brought back this arc anyways
 

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
That’s why I’m a little confused by the side panel that implies Gaban said something important to Sanji

People keep saying he said X, Y, or Z and none of them make sense narratively

“You’re stifling your spear of grit” as a callback would be cool but makes no sense since Gaban’s known Sanji for 5 minutes

“Your Germa genes are another way to counter them” How would he know that? There’s no guarantee that he knows Sanji’s name and even if he does how would he know that the exoskeleton has a unique reaction to Imu’s gifted immortality?

“Your flames can counter their regeneration” Again, no way for him to know he even uses fire. Not to mention it’s been all but confirmed that his flames are separate from Germa entirely so he’d have no way of knowing about its existence

Now Oda foregoes logic sometimes so it could still be any one of these but I can’t say it would be satisfying for Sanji’s character
He could have just said "i dont sense it in you".
People came up with this moronic headcanon of people "sensing" other's dormant coc.
That's not how it ever worked in the story.
Characters only are aware of having it, whether Oda says it on some SBS, say it inside the story (Kid) or if they use it at least once in the story.

He can't sense it in Sanji if Sanji hasn't unlocked it yet. It's not rocket science. It's not a conspiracy, it's just how it's always been.

Sanji is a salty character. Ever since Usopp gloated about appearing on Luffy's bounty, Sanji already was mad about it.
He got mad about only luffy and zoro having bounties after alabasta.
He got mad about his drawn poster.
He got excited for having a bounty higher than Zoro's, and now he is mad because even Jimbo has a bounty higher than his.

It's always been a thing.
And now he's mad about not having Conqueror's Haki, especially since Zoro has it, and it is a REQUIREMENT for fighting the WG members.
Remember against Queen, his inner monologue. (what's more useful to be at the Pirate King's side?)
Sanji has a drive to be stronger if needed without sacrificing his humanity.
It just needs to be explored, which is a chance for it to happen now. He can either unlock it here, like the usual arc PU, but it is, by OP standards, that SANJI alone is gonna get some PU, while Luffy and Zoro dont. Can it happen? Sure. But my bet would be that this is his future PU.
Exoskeleton compensates the fact that Sanji isn't a CoA specialist. So in order to compete with people with better CoA than his, he gets the exoskeleton, and it also allows him to upgrade his flames.
But for more AP, the way now is through CoA 2.0, aka, ACOC. That's all. Power of Love, so far, isn't "AP". Power of Love so far only allows him to perform stuff that shouldn't be possible, like stopping a laser beam, or enduring his own flames.
 
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