Le Fishe Thread Doffy vs Fujitora

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comrade

comrade

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#245
#245
Let's acknowledge Vergo had the advantage of having Law's heart. Still, the feats he displayed against Law and Smoker were pretty solid:
  • Outpaced Law's teleportation as he tried to grab his heart back via shambles.
  • Took Law's Counter Shock without flinching.
  • Brutalized Law with his hardened punches (and earlier with his hardened Bamboo) harder than Big Mom did with her hardened punches (as @ZenZu pointed out though, Big Mom has more in her arsenal). Even if you argue Law's endurance grew, 1) the increase won't be so exponential to explain his jump from being brutalized by a mere vet to tanking a Yonko's repeated punches, especially since he 2) was already heavily injured and vatigued
  • Overpowered and brutalized Smoker. Same one who pressurized Law in the first place.
Then, we have the Sanji incident, where Vergo cracked Sanji's leg with a basic, unhardened kick, when legs are Sanji's one and only weapon, his bread and butter, his speciality. That is, after comfortably eating Sanji's Diable Jambes and having Sanji comment on Vergo's toughness like being that of a mass of iron and admitting it would've ended bad against Vergo if they continued.

And we haven't even witnessed Vergo's all out style - full body hardening with his Bamboo. The only time he used the FBH apart from the flashback with Rosinante, was when he charged straight into Law's mountain slasher hax, believing he doesn't need to dodge due to being that confident in his Haki.

Yes, FBH Bamboo Vergo will defeat Jack.
 
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#251
#251
ZenZu said:
I'm not saying he has better AP than Big Mom overall, she has a lot more to her arsenal than just armament coated punches with her back on the ground. I'm saying Oda had went out of his way to consistently showcase how hard he hits, something he wasn't even willing to do for Big Mom's punches, not to the same extent. It speaks volumes for how heavy Vergo's blows are.

It's the same logic with Sanji's leg cracking, Oda went above and beyond to show how abnormal Vergo's attack power is. There was no need to go that far. This was without hardening or his bamboo stick, let alone his strongest attack. Through this you can get a good idea of just how strong Oni Take must have been, there's a reason it folded Smoker. The bias is the fact you can't get over the fact that Oda did indeed do all this for Doflamingo's underling. If an Admiral or Yonkou pulled off these feats you wouldn't blink.

We know Sanji fought Judge and Judge could barely put a scratch on Sanji with a point blank kick to the face. Let alone crack his leg bones. So we know the feat is abnormal. We know Vergo completely outdoes someone like Judge in AP, it's not even close.
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..Wasn't Big Mom shown as a toddler beating the shit out of animals and giant warriors? He absolutely does showcase her strength more lol
 
soupongo

soupongo

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#252
#252
Steven said:
Bro still thinks PH Law=Wano Law:suresure:

And Vergo never folded Smoker.And even if,PH Smoker is fodder on a grand scale

Its like claiming Luffy oneshotted Alvida,someone who oneshotted her underlings hence Alvida and Chapter 1 Luffy had insane AP
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What are you even crashing out about lmfao?
Vergo>Jack is maybe controversial, but thinking Vergo is TR level, or maybe even above isn't really crazy at all.
 
soupongo

soupongo

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#255
#255
Steven said:
Its not controversial,its just fucking stupid

Stronger Black Maria sure.Above Ulti who endured a Yonkou attack?Yeah,Dream on
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The Scabards also "survived" Yonko attacks lol. Ulti is the funny/quirky beast pirates who got redeemed, but the point of the scene is that Ulti stands no chance against Big mom
 
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