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Personally I dont see it happening at all like Ace lol, very different characters and situations. They are fundamentally tied together of course, but I see them appearing at the same time around Luffy, even if Luffy doesn't directly fight Blackbeard yet (imo that'll be Akainu)
To me shanks is the route odas using to get Blackbeard to that final poneglyph. Shanks knows where it is from the man marked by flames (gaban) and Blackbeard can make her look for and extract that memory so Blackbeard then knows where it is.
 
She must be brave as hell then, I would never became an Admiral in the era where teenage pirates can slam an Admiral for breakfast.
Well she was fighting Roger and Whitebeard back in the day before returning to the north blue.
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Is Chapter 0 actually even canon tbh? It ends with Shiki breaking out of prison and says he has a plan that will take effect in 20 years. Well 20 years passed and nothing happened, so clearly Shiki was referring to what happened in Strong World. So either both Chapter 0 and Strong World are canon since they’re directly connected, or neither are canon
Chapter 0 is canon since everything that occurred in it is mentioned in the actual manga. (Edd war to Shiki escaping impel down)
 
Why are people taking killing the Admiral as a feat of a young Xebec? Where did we get an idea about his age? Running away with assumptions always. They said before Roger it was Rocks era, good chance Rocks was older than Roger at that time.
Roger would be currently 77, WB 74, BM 68, Garp and Ray 78.
At time of GV 38 years ago Roger was 39, WB 36, BM 30, Garp and Ray 40.
Shanks was 1 year old and BB 2 at that time.
56 years ago when Rocks killed an Admiral, Roger would be 21, WB 18, BM 12, Ray and Garp 22. Dragon was conceived around that time.
Maybe the two tone hair shows Rocks aging like Oda did for Scopper.
We dont have an age for Garling yet but he was shown as a young man in GV and now he is old like Scopper so he was probably in his late 30s at time of GV too.

The funny thing is although they all have similar ages, Garp, Ray, Roger, Garling, their children are in three different generations seemingly.
Dragon is 55
Shanks and Shamrock are 39
BB is 40
Ace would currently be 22
Dragon is old enough to be Aces father
The ages dont really show any pattern

A Rocks being same age as Garp and Roger would mean he was in his early 20s (21-22) when he killed an Admiral 56 years ago. Considering that the youngest Admiral we have seen is GB at 41 it seems very difficult to believe that Rocks was that strong at that age. But Oda can pull anything.
 
I really want to know what the hell the heaven realm actually signifies for Elbaf specifically. It really does make me think this arc is going to be a lot deeper than we think, beyond this ImuGunko conflict
Me too.
I think Mosa and maybe Kidd are there too.
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The sad thing though is that Oda is now using the Admiral rank as a hypetool for top tiers and legends.
Well, It's not like WB being stronger than all the other Emperors was bad because the other Emperors were hypetools.

Xebec Is one of the absolute top guys, him (or Roger, or WB, etc.) beating a top tier It's very hyping, but something we already know they could do.

If Xebec had beaten, idk, the BM of his time, all would have been normal too.
 
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That's the point, he doesn't even need to build hype or name the character, the title enough carries so much that it serves to hype Xebec more than ever. Oda has to do so much to hype someone like Loki for example, where we can scale what it means for Shanks to have defeated him, none of that is necessary for an Admiral. Being an Admiral is more than enough hype, just taking one down regardless of which Admiral it is, is supposed to be a massive deal.
Exactly i don't see how people can't understand this. All Oda has to say is he beat an Admiral. You see people going nuts on twitter saying chapter is insane. Thats because Oda has did great job have hyping The Admirals. So when you say someone killed one he doesn't need any details because no Admirals has ever been fodder.
 
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