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I don't think Oda will ever even try to give a proper excuse for the HK to do such a terrible job at guarding Mariejois.
True, but my point is that it doesn´t make sense for HK fans to argue that it was an outlier they weren´t able to stop fisher Tiger, unless it was shown that they had stopped enemies in different situations, but we have the opposite if anything
 

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@nik87 Tell me if Wb was stronger than Rocks why Oda did this:
Hard to tell who was stronger because Rocks is older than WB so he probably was stronger until his death 38 years ago. After that WB reached his peak and might have surpassed Rocks. Or not, there is no way to know.
Rogers strongest adversary doesnt mean what you think it does, it doesnt refer to individual strength. It refers to their achievements, Rocks did things that can rival the achievement of becoming the pirate king, which again isnt about individual strength.
As always, people ignore context - the taboo pirate. Why was he taboo? Because of his individual strength or something else?
Whenever you need things explained, feel free to hit me up. :goyea:
 
So Rocks killed An admiral during a reverie in Mariejois

ooof… Oda can never just give top tiers feats against each other… there’s ALWAYS A GODDAMN ASTERISK

Unfortunately for the Rocks agenda, it’s a STATED FACT that Admirals are nerfed in Mariejois… how unfortunate that the agenda stocks rose and and crashed so fast
 
I had doubts about Shiki myself. But after the following panel, you cant doubt the man anymore. He was the number 3 clearly =>

GV Shiki > GV Kaido and BM for sure. Though keep in mind Shiki should be in his prime here, while we have confirmation that Linlin and Kaido were still growing in strength. Meme didn’t even have Zeus yet, and Kaido didn’t even have a DF yet. Prime Kaido and Meme > Shiki > GV Kaido and Meme
 
Everyone tryna claim Xebec, these are the perks of slaying an Admiral. Well played Oda, the gas worked :BigW:
Man cuts a mountain in half just before saying his first words in the manga:myman:

Bozo, did you just laugh at a Mihawk slander?

GV Shiki > GV Kaido and BM for sure. Though keep in mind Shiki should be in his prime here, while we have confirmation that Linlin and Kaido were still growing in strength. Meme didn’t even have Zeus yet, and Kaido didn’t even have a DF yet. Prime Kaido and Meme > Shiki > GV Kaido and Meme
Prime Kaido > Shiki, sure. But Meme? Nah, Shiki was strong.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
So Rocks killed An admiral during a reverie in Mariejois

ooof… Oda can never just give top tiers feats against each other… there’s ALWAYS A GODDAMN ASTERISK

Unfortunately for the Rocks agenda, it’s a STATED FACT that Admirals are nerfed in Mariejois… how unfortunate that the agenda stocks rose and and crashed so fast
All but one
 
Admiral fans will say nonsense like this and then turn around and call Papazuki a god tier for cheapshotting an old man having a heart attack
 
Admiral fans will say nonsense like this and then turn around and call Papazuki a god tier for cheapshotting an old man having a heart attack
Same old man sent Shanks home empty handed after starting a fight with him for the lols

Also, probably no admiral fan has ever denied WB wasn´t nerfed at MF. What a strawman
 
Man cuts a mountain in half just before saying his first words in the manga:myman:

Bozo, did you just laugh at a Mihawk slander?


Prime Kaido > Shiki, sure. But Meme? Nah, Shiki was strong.
Oda making Shiki a pre-TS movie villain is too disrespectful for him to be a PK tier. I have Shiki at Admiral level or bottom of Yonko level. Sengoku putting Kaido and BM on the same pedestal as WB and then putting Shiki on the same pedestal as Wang Zhi, Silver Axe, and Captain John sealed the deal for me
 
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