By the way, for example, this is what Petr Kropotkin, an anarcho communist from Russia, said about Lenin:

“Lenin is not comparable to any revolutionary figure in history. Revolutionaries have had ideals. Lenin has none.”

"Vladimir Ilyich [Lenin], your concrete actions are completely unworthy of the ideas you pretend to hold. "







And he wrote two letters to Lenin that you can read:






Petr Kropotkin: Two Letters to Lenin

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/kropotkin-peter/1920/letters-lenin.htm








This is what he said about trying to use the state for socialism:

"There are those, on the one hand, who hope to achieve the social revolution through the State by preserving and even extending most of its powers to be used for the revolution. And there are those like ourselves who see the State, both in its present form, in its very essence, and in whatever guise it might appear, an obstacle to the social revolution, the greatest hindrance to the birth of a society based on equality and liberty, as well as the historic means designed to prevent this blossoming. "








And a quote about workers having direct democratic control of society:

"But how do European railways manage without them? How do they continue to convey millions of travellers and mountains of luggage across a continent?


If companies owning railways have been able to agree, why should railway workers, who would take possession of railways, not agree likewise? And if the Petersburg-Warsaw Company and that of Paris-Belfort can act in harmony, without giving themselves the luxury of a common commander, why, in the midst of our societies, consisting of groups of free workers, should we need a Government?"
 
Buddy, I respect you for trying to get blood from this particular stone, but he’s either a troll with nothing better to do or just a straight up racist/homophobe/misogynist/jackass (likely both), I think your time would be better spent ignoring him until he finally uses a slur and gets the ban he so richly deserves :yodaswag:
I'm not going to use a slur and get banned from here. I know you want that tho
:SmugRain:
 
The only quote there that seems false is stoning gays to death as he was simply quoting Leviticus as a response to the Rachel lady who quoted another leviticus passage to show contradiction.
That, and the quote that the civil rights act was a huge mistake. As it happens these are also the only seemingly "radical" takes in here

the other things in here include...affirming gender roles? and not wanting Muslim mass migration to Western countries? Wow so radical, just kidding not really, these are like red pill introductory course takes, conservative starter pack.

Tip of the iceberg stuff. Stuff you can say on YouTube without getting censored. Stuff that is shocking only to a liberal who is stuck in 2016
:josad:
 

Akai2

🆉🅾🆁🅾 🆃🅾🅾 🆂🆃🆁🅾🅽🅺!
Gotta say, I already liked them outside of this thread, but my respect for @Uncle Van and @AL sama only went up seeing them keep moderating this ridiculous thread. It’s gotta be nearly impossible to keep the conversation in bounds without letting their personal feelings get in the way of letting people fight over politics lol

I know those reports must be insane and that ban button on a couple of individuals here be looking at you like the green goblin mask 🤣
 
Gotta say, I already liked them outside of this thread, but my respect for @Uncle Van and @AL sama only went up seeing them keep moderating this ridiculous thread. It’s gotta be nearly impossible to keep the conversation in bounds without letting their personal feelings get in the way of letting people fight over politics lol

I know those reports must be insane and that ban button on a couple of individuals here be looking at you like the green goblin mask 🤣
Lol

BTW @AL sama @Uncle Van go and check this ryuQ guy's IP. There's no way he's NOT an alt
 
Gotta say, I already liked them outside of this thread, but my respect for @Uncle Van and @AL sama only went up seeing them keep moderating this ridiculous thread. It’s gotta be nearly impossible to keep the conversation in bounds without letting their personal feelings get in the way of letting people fight over politics lol

I know those reports must be insane and that ban button on a couple of individuals here be looking at you like the green goblin mask 🤣
 
Lol

BTW @AL sama @Uncle Van go and check this ryuQ guy's IP. There's no way he's NOT an alt
who am I an alt of then
:okay:

Quit lying just because you disagree with my takes
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Gotta say, I already liked them outside of this thread, but my respect for @Uncle Van and @AL sama only went up seeing them keep moderating this ridiculous thread. It’s gotta be nearly impossible to keep the conversation in bounds without letting their personal feelings get in the way of letting people fight over politics lol

I know those reports must be insane and that ban button on a couple of individuals here be looking at you like the green goblin mask 🤣
Zip it up when your done

Mods, don't believe this guy, secretly he is very pissed that you have not banned me yet.
:zehaha:
 
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Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Gotta say, I already liked them outside of this thread, but my respect for @Uncle Van and @AL sama only went up seeing them keep moderating this ridiculous thread. It’s gotta be nearly impossible to keep the conversation in bounds without letting their personal feelings get in the way of letting people fight over politics lol

I know those reports must be insane and that ban button on a couple of individuals here be looking at you like the green goblin mask 🤣
They should just let this thread go wild....

We deserve some fireworks once in a while :kayneshrug:
 
It was not just Nakama thread, but the actual first political thread of this forum.

That's actually something the moderation didn't understand and the reason why this thread was so much fun for me.

People were fighting for their candidate and by extention the values of their candidate, but they were also targetting the values of adversaries and other candidates, they was the hypocrits, the conservatists and the progressist just like they were trolls and racists or toxic people..

And in the middle. Carrot VS Yamato a conflict, opposing two completely opposite characters, that was mirroring the election happening between Trump and Biden:

- On one hand, people who were defending a character for completely biased reasons:

No actual narrative relevancy and based on actual virilist value (people who were defending Yamato were refusing their/her/his transidentity and only accepted her because she was the daughter of ..... )

- On the other side there was me (and maybe one or two people I don't remember), with a lot of biases, yes, but also a quasi scientific method trying to understand and prove a point of view with (I kid you not) at least 50 word pages of actual theorycrafting work never released on a global theory about the character.

> I was the one called delusionnal / missguided / not knowledgable / toxic ... while facing an army of people insulting me all day long trying to prove something based on wind (but actually mostly trying to prove that I was wrong because I did most of the actual defense of Yamato).

And I faced that WITHOUT EVEN ONE single insult directed at people (the pigeon thing was never an insult) and was still threadban 3 times lmao (and perma banned to this day, I think they are scared that I go full political on the thread again)

:optimistic:


It was as close as political as it can get. A real conflict of values. It's in fact because of this thread that I asked TAC for a new political section outside of this political thread. (even if for the moment, it's not used so much because carefully hidden)

In the end I was proven wrong (I still wonder about a few stuff...) but this was a very fun political time, I think it helped me a little to maintain a routine, but I wont do that again, it took all my energy
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
It was not just Nakama thread, but the actual first political thread of this forum.

That's actually something the moderation didn't understand and the reason why this thread was so much fun for me.

People were fighting for their candidate and by extention the values of their candidate, but they were also targetting the values of adversaries and other candidates, they was the hypocrits, the conservatists and the progressist just like they were trolls and racists or toxic people..

And in the middle. Carrot VS Yamato a conflict completely that was mirroring the election happening between Trump and Biden:

- On one hand, people who were defending a character for completely biased reasons:

No actual narrative relevancy and based on actual virilist value (people who were defending Yamato were refusing their/her/his transidentity and only accepted her because she was the daughter of ..... )

- On the other side there was me (and maybe one or two people I don't remember), with a quasi scientific method trying to understand and prove a point of view with (I kid you not) at least 50 word pages of actual theorycrafting work never released on a global theory about the character.

> I was the one called delusionnal / missguided / not knowledgable / toxic ... while facing an army of people insulting me all day long trying to prove something based on wind (but actually mostly trying to prove that I was wrong because I did most of the actual defense of Yamato).

And I faced that WITHOUT EVEN ONE single insult directed at people and was still threadban 3 times lmao (and perma banned to this day, I think they are scared that I go full political on the thread again)

:optimistic:


It was as close as political as it can get. A real conflict of values. It's in fact because of this thread that I asked TAC for a new political section outside of this thread. (even if for the moment, it's not used so much because carefully hidden)

In the end I was proven wrong (I still wonder about a few stuff...) but this was a very fun political time, I think it helped me a little to maintain a routine, but I wont do that again, it took all my energy
Uncle van - your Leftist buddy banned you:kayneshrug:


Your own so called potential Leftist allies are backstabbing you....as if carrot getting sidelined by oda at the end of wano wasn't harsh enough for you
 
Uncle van - your Leftist buddy banned you:kayneshrug:


Your own so called potential Leftist allies are backstabbing you....as if carrot getting sidelined by oda at the end of wano wasn't harsh enough for you
He is just a potential ally for a reason after all.

I only needed the first "stop saying to people that they are toxic, you are the toxic one" to understand the system I was facing on this forum lol. Which happened either on the very first day or within the first week I don't remember.
 
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