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Hitler committed genocide which is considered objectively bad/evil but it was good for him and his followers
Here's the difference


Hitler committed genocide. For him, it was justified and he did justify it

For the world, it wasn't.

so, for many it was wrong but for some it was right.

However, Hitler's perception shows perceptions without any limits or boundaries become dangerous. And, such perceptions or justification aren't truth..
 
Hitler committed genocide which is considered objectively bad/evil but it was good for him and his followers
ChatGPT, can you please apply some Theory of Accumulation on this statement to debunk it?
Ah yes, the Butterfly Effect. Hitler killed himself.

Joke aside, it might have been temporarily good tho, but an answer to his actions was to be expected.

The karmatic scale persists and everything goes full circle.
 
I don't think Jay is necessarily wrong in a sense that Luffy does not go out of his way to help people like some fans project him too. Would Luffy let an injustice happen in front of him? probably not. If he was in IRL would he go to Ukraine, Sudan or Palestine to help them? Probably not lol
The statement he rejects is this one : "Luffy would not stand for oppression" but people are right he would not. Even without intervening.

That's the subtility of Luffy that most One Piece fan misses. And something very important politically. Luffy lets people fight their own fight, not because doesn't care, but because he considers the agencyof the oppressed as more important than anything else.






If he was in IRL would he go to Ukraine, Sudan or Palestine to help them? Probably not lol
As I explained. Luffy does not go toward the injustice, not because he doesn't care, but because he believe in the agency of the fighter and refuse to impose himself unless it's necessary and asked. This is very important because that's a MASSIVE activism principle, especially concerning feminism and anti-ableism etc.. A good political principle, is to stand back and let people fight their fight
 
this does not answer my question at all, but I guess I can accept this out of box take

whether I can add it to my values is another thing

when I think about it, I see it for sure differently


like what Reborn-san is tackling here, "inheritance".

Accumulation into human growth are one thing I consider as inherently good. Without it we wouldn't exist as we are, we probably would have no history books and the concept of teaching and learning would not exist.

Taking this into another direction, like for example in a materialistic-philosophical sense, I personally think that the idea of "overneccessity" is a bad thing. Because it is the root cause of fatigue. Not only fatigue for humans, but fatigue towards bigger structures, mechanisms and concepts.

Just examples if we take the "inheritant" layer of this.

Anyway I am done flexxing. I am short on time lol
ChatGPT, can you please apply some Theory of Accumulation on this statement to debunk it?
Ah yes, the Butterfly Effect. Hitler killed himself.

Joke aside, it might have been temporarily good tho, but an answer to his actions was to be expected.

The karmatic scale persists and everything goes full circle.
 
ChatGPT, can you please apply some Theory of Accumulation on this statement to debunk it?
Ah yes, the Butterfly Effect. Hitler killed himself.

Joke aside, it might have been temporarily good tho, but an answer to his actions was to be expected.

The karmatic scale persists and everything goes full circle.
lol you know me than that
Not at all but I’m curious anyway. Although it seems you just answered.
I m not vey religious nor m I very expressive so I don't face much problems
 
One can indeed justify anything.

But justification doesn't equate to being true.
Well yeah. What I meant was someone could justify something and not be incorrect if nothing is inherently good/evil as Illogikos materialism would imply
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The five sense thing is actually a myth. We have so much more senses than that
Well, any number of senses. I just meant sensory experience in general
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Here you can see the speed of the ball as the nature of the signals, when the signal is X, the ball falls, but when it's Y it goes faster and can influence the trajectory of others signals. As you can see here, a self contained system influencing itself
It's not self contained, it is hierarchical

The mind or self-reflective part of our consciousness is not material, it is above the material aspect of ourselves (our brain and body)
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Hitler committed genocide which is considered objectively bad/evil but it was good for him and his followers
Well, a good means doesn't justify an evil act, only good action and good means correspond. So even doing something evil to get something good (like a genocide), is still evil
 
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The mind or self-reflective part of our consciousness is not material, it is above the material aspect of ourselves (our brain and body)
There is no hierarchy in nature. A star is not above a grain of sand.

"The mind" is a result, a simple consequence, a projection of real material process. Your consciousness is an illusion created by this process.

The immateriality of the world does not exist without the material one. A concept is but an interpretation of reality.
 
Concepts exist, so materialism must be false, because concepts aren't material but immaterial
In absolute. Concepts do not exist. There are the projection of a social interpretation of reality by the material components of our brain.

I mean it can be easily argued he committed suicide simply cause he lost the battle and had no other choice
Yeah, that would be my first thought too. Especially if torture of completely humiliation is the other option.
 
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