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Give it time. Your lack of media literacy will do the job for me.

:brootea:


Ngl one of the most confusing things to me is how so many hardcore leftists like @Logiko stan One Piece when Oda writes some of the most casually misogynistic and homophobic shit
Simple: Because it's not written in order to hurt, it's done with love and there is a will to grow from past past errors and rectified the damage by creating amazing representations. That's what we - leftists - love.


Onepiece fans get yo fanbase!
This is a far right protestor trying to reappropriate the OP logo. It often happens with fascists. They see something that works and will try to take it back. But they will rapidly fail in this case, simply because for once, the story is explicitly calling them out lol. Probably an ignorant and a fascist moron in this case. Don't worry about these guys. Give them a "little" tap behind the head and they will fall.
Logiko probably cried and twerked like Oden while reading that shit.

How do you know?

:perocry:

(well first I laughed)


just today he was arguing with me on how sanji isn't technically sexist even though he very clearly treats women like babies lol
Your inner van is showing. You are completely twisting what I'm saying (and what you said) (((and what the story shows lol))). Sanji is not "treating women like babies", sanji refusal to hurt them is not about women, it's about Zeff's education. Sanji doesn't want to question that because it's the only thing that grounds him since he was rejected by his dad and suffered this abandon.
 
Give it time. Your lack of media literacy will do the job for me.

:brootea:



Simple: Because it's not written in order to hurt, it's done with love and there is a will to grow from past past errors and rectified the damage by creating amazing representations. That's what we - leftists - love.



This is a far right protestor trying to reappropriate the OP logo. It often happens with fascists. They see something that works and will try to take it back. But they will rapidly fail in this case, simply because for once, the story is explicitly calling them out lol. Probably an ignorant and a fascist moron in this case. Don't worry about these guys. Give them a "little" tap behind the head and they will fall.



How do you know?

:perocry:

(well first I laughed)



Your inner van is showing. You are completely twisting what I'm saying (and what you said) (((and what the story shows lol))). Sanji is not "treating women like babies", sanji refusal to hurt them is not about women, it's about Zeff's education. Sanji doesn't want to question that because it's the only thing that grounds him since he was rejected by his dad and suffered this abandon.
Yeah bro Oda really showed us how much he’s growing his misogyny with the Shakky shit this flashback
 
Yeah bro Oda really showed us how much he’s growing his misogyny with the Shakky shit this flashback
Treating women as if they're just a fucktoy and a prize for your efforts isn't misogynistic bro!
:MonkeWhat:
Give it time. Your lack of media literacy will do the job for me.

:brootea:



Simple: Because it's not written in order to hurt, it's done with love and there is a will to grow from past past errors and rectified the damage by creating amazing representations. That's what we - leftists - love.



This is a far right protestor trying to reappropriate the OP logo. It often happens with fascists. They see something that works and will try to take it back. But they will rapidly fail in this case, simply because for once, the story is explicitly calling them out lol. Probably an ignorant and a fascist moron in this case. Don't worry about these guys. Give them a "little" tap behind the head and they will fall.



How do you know?

:perocry:

(well first I laughed)



Your inner van is showing. You are completely twisting what I'm saying (and what you said) (((and what the story shows lol))). Sanji is not "treating women like babies", sanji refusal to hurt them is not about women, it's about Zeff's education. Sanji doesn't want to question that because it's the only thing that grounds him since he was rejected by his dad and suffered this abandon.
Then Zeff is misogynistic
I don't know what to tell you man but there's a very clear difference in the way they treat women compared to men lol
Notice Sanji never goes to help a man when they're getting beat up but always goes to help a woman when she is. Why is that?
 
Yeah bro Oda really showed us how much he’s growing his misogyny with the Shakky shit this flashback
You mean pirates loving shakky & Oda showing shakky as a treasure? I mean, yeah, it's a bit pushy, but it's logical in the romanticization of OP, plus it's made with respect and without disrespecting the character of Shakky while showing that the real relationship was there all along thus going in depth in something we didn't knew we needed by showing us a loving old couple's beginning.




I mean... I loved this moment. Why wouldn't you?


reating women as if they're just a fucktoy and a prize for your efforts isn't misogynistic bro!
:MonkeWhat:
The celestial Dragon saw Shakky as a prize, the pirate saw Shakky as a treasure. I think you are mistaking clearly what Oda depicted here. Shakky is, for pirates, what nami, or Usopp or Robin are for Luffy. They are his treasure. Of course they are delusionnal about their chances with her & it can be objectifying yea, but Shakky is always represented with full agency, even in captivity.

Nop. He is just not a woman beater. I think you have a rather simplistic way of looking at feminism. But this is not the place to talk about this, we wouldn't want to see this thread go into oblivion wouldn't we

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I don't know what to tell you man but there's a very clear difference in the way they treat women compared to men lol
Sanji is sexist. This is a fact. But him not wanting to hit women is not what makes him sexist. That's actually the opposite.

Stay away from people who say "well if women wants equality then I should be able to hit them as well". People who say that... yeah.. Be careful..

Notice Sanji never goes to help a man when they're getting beat up but always goes to help a woman when she is. Why is that?
Yeah, sanji has a missplaced chevalry with women, but he also literally stayed in whole cake to save his entire family about to be killed, brother included. He saved Usopp from Enel. He saved Gin from hunger. He helped Zoro in Wano and saved Momo. He saved and helped KInemon in Punk Hazard. He avenged Usopp against Franky.
 
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You mean pirates loving shakky & Oda showing shakky as a treasure? I mean, yeah, it's a bit pushy, but it's logical in the romanticization of OP, plus it's made with respect and without disrespecting the character of Shakky while showing that the real relationship was there all along thus going in depth in something we didn't knew we needed by showing us a loving old couple's beginning.




I mean... I loved this moment. Why wouldn't you?



The celestial Dragon saw Shakky as a prize, the pirate saw Shakky as a treasure. I think you are mistaking clearly what Oda depicted here. Shakky is, for pirates, what nami, or Usopp or Robin are for Luffy. They are his treasure. Of course they are delusionnal about their chances with her & it can be objectifying yea, but Shakky is always represented with full agency, even in captivity.


Nop. He is just not a woman beater. I think you have a rather simplistic way of looking at feminism. But this is not the place to talk about this, we wouldn't want to see this thread go into oblivion wouldn't we

:usosmug:



Sanji is sexist. This is a fact. But him not wanting to hit women is not what makes him sexist. That's actually the opposite.

Stay away from people who say "well if women wants equality then I should be able to hit them as well". People who say that... yeah.. Be careful..


Yeah, sanji has a missplaced chevalry with women, but he also literally stayed in whole cake to save his entire family about to be killed, brother included. He saved Usopp from Enel. He saved Gin from hunger. He helped Zoro in Wano and saved Momo. He saved and helped KInemon in Punk Hazard. He avenged Usopp against Franky.
My brother in peak piece, they're baiting the shit out of you and using you for their own amusement

Please log out and get away from your phone/screen
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
Reminder that Oda himself is aware that he has a chunky female fanbase, but completely ignores them claiming that girls don't care about shonen. As a shonen, he prioritizes the young male audience and tries to appeal to them. That's why majority of females are either simps, need to be saved 24/7, ugly as fuck, sexually dressed, etc..

Hell, Oda even said that the DFs of female are "based on a women's needs". Love, being slim, washing clothes, baths, controlling weight, etc..
 
Reminder that Oda himself is aware that he has a chunky female fanbase, but completely ignores them claiming that girls don't care about shonen. As a shonen, he prioritizes the young male audience and tries to appeal to them. That's why majority of females are either simps, need to be saved 24/7, ugly as fuck, sexually dressed, etc..

Hell, Oda even said that the DFs of female are "based on a women's needs". Love, being slim, washing clothes, baths, controlling weight, etc..
 
No manga is perfect, Oda has certainly made a few decisions that we didn't enjoy.
But overall, the quality, depth and consistency of this series is phenomenal. I'm still amazed at the amount of thought Oda has put into world building and lore (which is my favorite thing about the series).
9/10
 
My brother in peak piece, they're baiting the shit out of you and using you for their own amusement

Please log out and get away from your phone/screen
Oh?

:beanmean:


Reminder that Oda himself is aware that he has a chunky female fanbase, but completely ignores them claiming that girls don't care about shonen. As a shonen, he prioritizes the young male audience and tries to appeal to them. That's why majority of females are either simps, need to be saved 24/7, ugly as fuck, sexually dressed, etc..

Hell, Oda even said that the DFs of female are "based on a women's needs". Love, being slim, washing clothes, baths, controlling weight, etc..
Yeah, Oda is a sexist dud, but careful, there are nuances. Every characters needs to be saved in OP, it's not just women. The problem with the saved princess trope is that these princess don't have agency. This is not something that happens (compared to many shonen in fact) in OP. All women have agency. This "I'm only appealing to male audience" has shifted in the new world.

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I never realised that
There are also nuances to that as well. Especially in the new world.
 
Besides, if a piece of media that is published weekly needs to be bulk read to be enjoyable then it is fundamentally failing at its job. It should publish monthly like Record of Ragnarok if it's such a supposedly big deal.

Nobody ever says "Bro, you just need to bulk watch Star Wars movies" or "Bulk watch Deep Space 9" or "Just bulk read Harry Potter" or "Bulk read Kingdom manga".

For some reason, the only time I have ever personally heard this excuse for any piece of media, it is for One Piece. Lol.
I'm unfamiliar with Kingdom but the other franchises you mention are apples to oranges.

In addition, tankobon is the intended reading of manga: the market caters to releases beyond the first edition (which is damn near toilet paper) and the entire foundation of anime is revising original manga
 
Hate on One Piece all you want but this entire forum knows why they spend 99% of their "manga discussion" time here over anything else lmao

I criticize this series all the time. Its still the best series in the medium by far
 
Pre timeskip 8/10

Post timeskip -8/10

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Hate on One Piece all you want but this entire forum knows why they spend 99% of their "manga discussion" time here over anything else lmao

I criticize this series all the time. Its still the best series in the medium by far
Incorrect. Majority of people are here because they spent a lot of time here when the series is good. Now that its garbage they cant be asked leaving. Nobody actually cares about the story....only their agenda.

If One Piece started with this lvl of writing...it'd be cancelled after 20 chapters
 
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Pre timeskip 8/10

Post timeskip -8/10

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Incorrect. Majority of people are here because they spent a lot of time here when the series is good. Now that its garbage they cant be asked leaving. Nobody actually cares about the story....only their agenda.

If One Piece started with this lvl of writing...it'd be cancelled after 20 chapters
Bro you are just upset Sanji didnt fight King still 4 years later:gokulaugh:

And Im sorry, all of these edgy ragebait fanlets still like the manga as much as they "act" like they hate it.
 
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