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Socialism is an economic system which demands social ownership of the means of production. Not umbrella, that's what it means.
To achieve this, you need someone to control it, right? That's where one party goes into play. That turns into dictatorship more often than not.
And every single socialist economy collapsed miserably, or switched to capitalism. There's no good example of it Van.
To achieve this, you need someone to control it, right? That's where one party goes into play. That turns into dictatorship more often than not.
And every single socialist economy collapsed miserably, or switched to capitalism. There's no good example of it Van.
that's not socialism, that is quite literally capitalist liberal society lol.
Socialism = When government does stuff is a stupid propaganda right wingers push to fearmonger and lower government spending. It doesn't even make sense because right now the U.S government is a mixed economy with a strong welfare state
Socialism = When government does stuff is a stupid propaganda right wingers push to fearmonger and lower government spending. It doesn't even make sense because right now the U.S government is a mixed economy with a strong welfare state
So are you agreeing with me or not? The popularity is irrelevant, and you are using s specific form of socialism.
- socialist society
- socialist authoritarian government
You keep using these specific versions of socialism when I'm talking about socialism in general.
The US workers got the rights they have now thanks to socialist policy for example, and the US is nowhere near s socialist govenrment or society. China's strong socialist policy in the name of communism has lifted 800M people out of poverty in just a few decades, and has experienced much faster growth than America in a few centuries(yes China has a free market but it is regulated by the Government). Counties in Europe uses a social democracy and the people theor got better lives than in the US.
This isn't a 1:1 or "this is good and this is bad" situation.
- socialist society
- socialist authoritarian government
You keep using these specific versions of socialism when I'm talking about socialism in general.
The US workers got the rights they have now thanks to socialist policy for example, and the US is nowhere near s socialist govenrment or society. China's strong socialist policy in the name of communism has lifted 800M people out of poverty in just a few decades, and has experienced much faster growth than America in a few centuries(yes China has a free market but it is regulated by the Government). Counties in Europe uses a social democracy and the people theor got better lives than in the US.
This isn't a 1:1 or "this is good and this is bad" situation.
Ironically this is an argument amongst economist. China is either a state capitalist society or a market socialist society
I'd lean towards socialism because it's still under a one party maoist rule
There's no differentiator when Nat and I are quoting straight from the bible of modern socialism.
Socialist policies like strong worker rights can exist in a capitalist society, I quite literally said that?
I'd lean towards socialism because it's still under a one party maoist rule
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There's no differentiator when Nat and I are quoting straight from the bible of modern socialism.
Socialist policies like strong worker rights can exist in a capitalist society, I quite literally said that?
