Fanclub The V̶i̶n̶s̶m̶o̶k̶e̶ Sanji FC: The Prince of love
He still resents Germa, and would much rather not have the genetic mods than have it, which doesnt scream acceptance. Also, I'm sure if you referred to him as Vinsnoke Sanji he'd have a conniption. I still think he's dealing with the trauma of potentially losing himself, but Gaban will help him realise that no one should curse the circumstances of their birth, which Sanji obviously carries guilt from. Reiju told him Sora made the sacrifice willingly, but Sanji still felt that he was a burden.
Also Gaban, may also tell Sanji, that he needs to accept both the light and the dark and he must conquer the insecurity of both halves dwelling in him to unlock his true potential.
Also Gaban, may also tell Sanji, that he needs to accept both the light and the dark and he must conquer the insecurity of both halves dwelling in him to unlock his true potential.
I think it's a bit late for another flame color upgrade.
But since Oda decided to shove Gear 4th away, why not?
But since Oda decided to shove Gear 4th away, why not?
For 260 chapters, G4 was Luffy's strongest mode. He was fighting Kaidou with it quite well, and still uses it regularly now in place of G2 and G3.
Sanji first used Ifrit Jambe 137 chapters ago. That's not an insignificant time, but in this specific context, it's been used only three times.
I think a new flame at this juncture only makes sense if it has special properties.
I think it's a bit late for another flame color upgrade.
But since Oda decided to shove Gear 4th away, why not?
But since Oda decided to shove Gear 4th away, why not?
Zoro wasn't even aware that he was coating his attacks, despite how dumb it sounds it is what it is. So this arc Sanji awakens it and coats his attacks and makes a good use of it momentarily, but he doesn't master it, and his blue flames play a special role alongside his CoC at hurting immortals as well.. Meanwhile Zoro masters it, since he was already coating his attacks ever since the King fight.. I think thats a good way to maintain the gap between them, even if its small.. because if both master CoC in this arc then Sanji will feel much more competent and perhaps even stronger imo, it will feel odd.
I believe that by the time Sanji masters it god knows when, then a new flame will be created (this doesn't exclude stuff like future sight becoming a thing btw)
Btw, in Oda's mind, they are both comparable even if Sanji has no CoC yet
Buddy, all of JJK was 271 chapters. 
260 is over 1/5 of OP's total chapter count, you shmuck.
It was more than plenty. If anything, it's a shame Luffy hasn't added more modes since.
It annoys me Oda has Luffy basically defaults to G5 now because it's fun. It's a good way for him to continue having an excuse, but I'd still prefer to see Luffy use the other Gears more often.
260 is over 1/5 of OP's total chapter count, you shmuck.It was more than plenty. If anything, it's a shame Luffy hasn't added more modes since.
It annoys me Oda has Luffy basically defaults to G5 now because it's fun. It's a good way for him to continue having an excuse, but I'd still prefer to see Luffy use the other Gears more often.
Buddy, all of JJK was 271 chapters. 260 is over 1/5 of OP's total chapter count, you shmuck.
It was more than plenty. If anything, it's a shame Luffy hasn't added more modes since.
260 is over 1/5 of OP's total chapter count, you shmuck.It was more than plenty. If anything, it's a shame Luffy hasn't added more modes since.
Tired of your moronic ass acting all high and mighty.
Gear 2nd came in Ennies Lobby.
We had EL, Thriller Bark, the entire Sabaody/Amazon Lily/Marineford/Fishman island and Punk Hazard with it.
Then we get a new form in Dressrosa that follows in >>>>Zou/WCI(already we have TWO new Gear4th forms in a single arc)>Wano.
Done.
the end battle of an arc, WCI that showed us 3 different Gear 4th forms, then immediately in Wano we get Gear5th.
This absolute clown wants to tell me that these 3 arcs that together should actually count 2 since Dressrosa should barely count, is the same as the amount of arcs Gear 2nd/3rd had in Pre AND Post-TS.
Diable Jambe appeared in ENNIES LOBBY.
Ifrit Jambe appeared in the END of Wano. We just had Egghead and mofo already wants Ifrit Jambe ditched?
Fine. to each their own.
But I think it's lame to ditch PUs instead of developing them.
Thats why ifrit jambe will be praised alongside CoC in Elbaph
Sanji's Diable Jambe was praised by Queen, then after the Exo awakening he dealt enormous damage to Queen and weakened him severely (through Hells Memories). So here we have Diable Jambe + more muscles and speed making Queen see defeat for the first time
Some argue that Ifrit Jambe wasn't even that much necessary, and that Sanji would definitely beat up Queen with Diable Jambe. It's almost like he did it out of sole anger for realizing Queen beat O-Some
So now i can see the same happening with Ifrit Jambe and CoC coating. And if we are being honest, Sanji used Hells Memories to sent Mars flying in Egghead lmao, so unless Hells Memories isn't Sanji's strongest move anymore then there is still a chance he uses a new flame here or just makes a good use of IJ + CoC, like he did with DJ + Exo against Queen
Sanji's Diable Jambe was praised by Queen, then after the Exo awakening he dealt enormous damage to Queen and weakened him severely (through Hells Memories). So here we have Diable Jambe + more muscles and speed making Queen see defeat for the first time
Some argue that Ifrit Jambe wasn't even that much necessary, and that Sanji would definitely beat up Queen with Diable Jambe. It's almost like he did it out of sole anger for realizing Queen beat O-Some
So now i can see the same happening with Ifrit Jambe and CoC coating. And if we are being honest, Sanji used Hells Memories to sent Mars flying in Egghead lmao, so unless Hells Memories isn't Sanji's strongest move anymore then there is still a chance he uses a new flame here or just makes a good use of IJ + CoC, like he did with DJ + Exo against Queen
You specifically dismissed the figure as insignificant, you emotional dickhead. 
If it was about the number of events, you could have said that then, instead of pivoting to it now.
Luffy used G4 to defeat Doflamingo, Cracker and Katakuri, and leaned on it heavily throughout Wano. He used it against Kizaru not that long ago and threatened Loki with it more recently than that.
What the fuck are you talking about?
No, I don't.
You should try reading what you're responding to.
As far as I know I'm the only one here advocating for Ifrit being as hot as Sanji ever needs to go.
If it was about the number of events, you could have said that then, instead of pivoting to it now.Luffy used G4 to defeat Doflamingo, Cracker and Katakuri, and leaned on it heavily throughout Wano. He used it against Kizaru not that long ago and threatened Loki with it more recently than that.
What the fuck are you talking about?
No, I don't.
Fine. to each their own.
But I think it's lame to ditch PUs instead of developing them.
But I think it's lame to ditch PUs instead of developing them.
As far as I know I'm the only one here advocating for Ifrit being as hot as Sanji ever needs to go.
I continue to believe Sanji's next flame won't burn, or at least, it won't only burn if it does.
Oda's gags become part of the plot.
imo, Parage Shot is a hint to Sanji's final flame.
Oda's gags become part of the plot.
imo, Parage Shot is a hint to Sanji's final flame.
You specifically dismissed the figure as insignificant, you emotional dickhead. If it was about the number of events, you could have said that then, instead of pivoting to it now.
Luffy used G4 to defeat Doflamingo, Cracker and Katakuri, and leaned on it heavily throughout Wano. He used it against Kizaru not that long ago and threatened Loki with it more recently than that.
If it was about the number of events, you could have said that then, instead of pivoting to it now.Luffy used G4 to defeat Doflamingo, Cracker and Katakuri, and leaned on it heavily throughout Wano. He used it against Kizaru not that long ago and threatened Loki with it more recently than that.
HURRR DURRR BUT SOME MID ASS CLOWN MANGA IS THAT LONG AS WELL BECAUSE IT'S JUST A BUNCH OF FIGHTS WITH SHITTY STORYLINE.
Who gives a shit?
WE talking about One Piece here.
And Post-TS was a drag.
He used boundman Against Doffy, THEN IT IMMEDIATELY got powercrept by Cracker. LMAO. Mofo didn't even beat 2 consecutive people with Boundman and already needed a new form.
Then, IMMEDIATELY needs Snakeman to beat Katakuri.
It's PU just for the sake of PU.
If you like it, be happy. Because that's what OP is all about now.
I think it sucks ass.
No tf I didn't. I assumed you'd remember what transpired in those 260 chapters between late Dressrosa and late Wano.
You mad as hell because dismissing 260 chapters was dumb to begin with.
The point is that Luffy used G4 often, not that Oda used it to its full potential.
I don't want PUs for the sake of PUs. I don't even want a hotter flame than Ifrit. Again, you should read what you respond to.
You getting bent out of shape cause I'm talking shit like that's new for what, and you STILL WRONG.
I assumed you'd remember what transpired in those 260 chapters between late Dressrosa and late Wano. You mad as hell because dismissing 260 chapters was dumb to begin with.
The point is that Luffy used G4 often, not that Oda used it to its full potential.
It's PU just for the sake of PU.
If you like it, be happy. Because that's what OP is all about now.
I think it sucks ass.
If you like it, be happy. Because that's what OP is all about now.
I think it sucks ass.
You getting bent out of shape cause I'm talking shit like that's new for what, and you STILL WRONG.
No tf I didn't. I assumed you'd remember what transpired in those 260 chapters between late Dressrosa and late Wano.
You mad as hell because dismissing 260 chapters was dumb to begin with.
The point is that Luffy used G4 often, not that Oda used it to its full potential.
I don't want PUs for the sake of PUs. I don't even want a hotter flame than Ifrit. Again, you should read what you respond to.
You getting bent out of shape cause I'm talking shit like that's new for what, and you STILL WRONG.
I assumed you'd remember what transpired in those 260 chapters between late Dressrosa and late Wano.You mad as hell because dismissing 260 chapters was dumb to begin with.
The point is that Luffy used G4 often, not that Oda used it to its full potential.
I don't want PUs for the sake of PUs. I don't even want a hotter flame than Ifrit. Again, you should read what you respond to.
You getting bent out of shape cause I'm talking shit like that's new for what, and you STILL WRONG.
Never even once.
