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[Royal Kick]

So Low Top Tier~ish?
How far would do you reckon Post-Elbaf Sanji pushes an Admiral?

Post automatically merged: Jan 21, 2026

I agree that Sanji was definitively stronger than Jinbe at the end of Wano but think start of Onigashima Sanji v Jimbe (which was when Jinbe joined) is ambigious to be fair but we can disagree on that. At least we agree that an argument can be made for Robin, which only serves to support my point :p

I think Zoro is hitting Admiral level by the end of this arc, so I guess it all depends on how big we think the gap between Zoro and Sanji is. But I'd say high diff at the very least.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Where do you have Old Gaban and Garp atm?

Here's a list I made on July 29th of 2025:

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Though obviously a couple placements here are outdated, but most of these placements are pretty accurate to what I currently believe.
One thing I will elaborate on, is that Prime Ray is above Gaban but Old Ray is below Gaban because it seems like Gaban is far less rusty than Ray is and I feel like him still currently fighting and exploring nowadays while Ray mostly just goes around having sex and drinking means Gaban is probably more skilled and capable in battle right now.

Edit: Also Bepo is a replacement for Joyboy. Almost forgot that lol.

 

[PuckTheGreat]

I don't believe anyone with a brain sincerely believes Loki will join the Strawhats. They just want to believe it.

Personally legitimately think he joins tbh.
I know he's getting a lot of gas and folks think he is way too strong to join but I'll keep on reminding folks that Oda is a hype merchant and also an incredibly shameless writer so will reserve my judgement till the end of the arc.
Reckon his actual PL is going to be a lot closer to current Luffy when all is said and done.

 

[Rumble]

That considered where do y'all have Sanji Post-Elbaf PL wise what do you think would be required for him to reach that level and where do you have Luffy in comparison your version fo Sanji? ^^

Post Elbaph he should be capable of fighting and defeating Admirals, depending on the matchup.

Kizaru would probably necessitate awakening Future Vision.

 

[kekaro]

So Low Top Tier~ish?
How far would do you reckon Post-Elbaf Sanji pushes an Admiral?

Post automatically merged: Jan 21, 2026

I agree that Sanji was definitively stronger than Jinbe at the end of Wano but think start of Onigashima Sanji v Jimbe (which was when Jinbe joined) is ambigious to be fair but we can disagree on that. At least we agree that an argument can be made for Robin, which only serves to support my point :p

Does it tho? Im having difficulty that oda would depict loki like he did for robin keeping her in the background passivley
Not only does that not fit his potrayal so far (which was not the case for robin, robin already as a villain shown disliked fighting or being active) but we also have the squirell

 

[PuckTheGreat]

Does it tho? Im having difficulty that oda would depict loki like he did for robin keeping her in the background passivley
Not only does that not fit his potrayal so far (which was not the case for robin, robin already as a villain shown disliked fighting or being active) but we also have the squirell

Expect Loki to take up a role not too dissimilar to Sanji & Zoro’s so will most likely be one of the crew’s main fighters.

The squirrel is cheddar for Oda in the form of merchandise

 

[kekaro]

Expect Loki to take up a role not too dissimilar to Sanji & Zoro’s so will most likely be one of the crew’s main fighters.

Exactly and thats why jimbo and robin comprassion dont apply
God tier time for the cook baby

 

[Hiragaro]

Current Sanji is above any typical YC.

If Sanji gets CoC or even AdvCoC this Arc, which is very likely, i think he would be around Old Gaban level. Probably a little below Old Gaban actually, because he wouldn’t be as proficient in AdvCoC from the get go as Gaban and Gaban also has Future sight - which Sanji may also get at some point.
But it depends if Oda wants them to surpass the Old Wings this Arc or not.

Gaban, even in his old age, is a legitimate Top Tier.
So Sanji would be in the Top Tier realm aswell if he gets the Power Up he is seemingly getting this Arc.

 

[Raiden7]

Irregardless of where y'all have got Loki PL-wise I think we can all agree that Luffy isn't going to be any less impressive than him this arc, so wings are going to have to raise their game significantly as a consequence.

That considered where do y'all have Sanji Post-Elbaf PL wise what do you think would be required for him to reach that level and where do you have Luffy in comparison your version fo Sanji? ^^

I think Sanji's level will be a a little below Admiral level. Considering how Luffy vs Kizaru went (with no clear winner between them imho), I guess Sanji will be a serious menace to admirals.

Luffy will be obviously on an upper tier for obvious reasons.

 

[JJtheman]

I know I'm late to the party but finally Sanji is back.

Nice Pfp

 

[Julius]

Current Sanji is above any typical YC.

If Sanji gets CoC or even AdvCoC this Arc, which is very likely, i think he would be around Old Gaban level. Probably a little below Old Gaban actually, because he wouldn’t be as proficient in AdvCoC from the get go as Gaban and Gaban also has Future sight - which Sanji may also get at some point.
But it depends if Oda wants them to surpass the Old Wings this Arc or not.

Gaban, even in his old age, is a legitimate Top Tier.
So Sanji would be in the Top Tier realm aswell if he gets the Power Up he is seemingly getting this Arc.

This arc is set up for Zoro and Sanji to surpass old Rayleigh and Gaban imo, no wonder Gaban is most likely the last old legend to be properly introduced in the manga.

Sanji might not get future sight this arc but he also has things Gaban doesn't such as the Exoskeleton, so i think it's fair that Zoro and Sanji surpass old R and G this arc or at least becomes their equals. Gaban being here to watch them fight and give them lessons definitely makes all that more accurate

 

[PuckTheGreat]

Exactly and thats why jimbo and robin comprassion dont apply
God tier time for the cook baby

How would you rationalize Aokiji's role in the Blackbeard Pirates though?
Surely it is noteworthy given the Blsckbeard Pirates are the counter parallel the SHs
Shiryu and Lafitte are clearly weaker than him atm yet they are most likely Zoro and Sanji's opponents.
So why can't Loki mirror Aokiji's current role in the Blackbeard Pirates?

 

[Doggo]

How would you rationalize Aokiji's role in the Blackbeard Pirates though?
Surely it is noteworthy given the Blsckbeard Pirates are the counter parallel the SHs
Shiryu and Lafitte are clearly weaker than him atm yet they are most likely Zoro and Sanji's opponents.
So why can't Loki mirror Aokiji's current role in the Blackbeard Pirates?

Luffy will fight Aokiji first, then Teach.

 

[Reborn]

Luffy will fight Aokiji first, then Teach.

No SH will fight Kuzan. Atleast, not seriously

 

[PuckTheGreat]

Luffy will fight Aokiji first, then Teach.

There's merit to this argument (i.e. the Blueno pattern bascically) but the only issue with this is that Aokiji has to be weaker than Zoro and Sanji's opponents for that to work which I think is a possibility if Teach is the final villian of OP but it doesn't really change the argument that Aokiji in the BB Pirates supports the argument for Loki joining. Whether Loki is stronger than Zoro or Sanji when he joins doesn't really matter long as both surpass him going forward.

 

[Doggo]

No SH will fight Kuzan. Atleast, not seriously

Luffy will.

Boring ass luffy show.

 

[Reborn]

Luffy will.

Boring ass luffy show.

Nah

It has to be Coby or no one (Kuzan being a victim of Teach greatness)

 

[Welkin]

Expect Loki to take up a role not too dissimilar to Sanji & Zoro’s so will most likely be one of the crew’s main fighters.

The squirrel is cheddar for Oda in the form of merchandise

No troll do you see Loki joining?

Is Loki joining the SHs the general consensus in the Sanji FC?

 

[Doggo]

No troll do you see Loki joining?

Is Loki joining the SHs the general consensus in the Sanji FC?

"Loki joining" isn't a consensus anywhere.

 

[Rumble]

Loki joining talk is mostly wishful thinking disguised as reasoned debate.

Current Sanji is above any typical YC.

If Sanji gets CoC or even AdvCoC this Arc, which is very likely, i think he would be around Old Gaban level. Probably a little below Old Gaban actually, because he wouldn’t be as proficient in AdvCoC from the get go as Gaban and Gaban also has Future sight - which Sanji may also get at some point.
But it depends if Oda wants them to surpass the Old Wings this Arc or not.

Gaban, even in his old age, is a legitimate Top Tier.
So Sanji would be in the Top Tier realm aswell if he gets the Power Up he is seemingly getting this Arc.

As soon as the Wings have advanced Haki, they are Admiral level.