That very dynamic is the core narrative framework Oda's established for how the three compare strength-wise and is the only logic that really matters when it comes to strength discussions btw those 3 as it is what it always defaults to that irregardless of individual feats. Again I've heard discussions about Luffy low diffing Zoro and Sanji prior to Wano coz he got FS beat Kat, got ACoA etc. but come rooftop and Zoro's performance is just as impressive as Luffy's. I've heard discussions about Zoro leaving Sanji behind and the latter fighting a tobi roppo on Wano but both end up fighting top commanders and established as the wings of the PK.
When people powerscale we operate within the present, not the future
I'm not saying that Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji have never been relative nor am I saying that there will never be moments further into the story where they look relative
But we powerscale with the information available to us, not with what we know will happen in the future. All 3 of them don't get powerups at the same time so how could they possibly be equal or relative at
every waking moment?
Luffy obtained Future Sight before Sanji got the Raid Suit so what's Sanji's counter to FS + G4 Luffy? He doesn't have one because he didn't get a powerup in that arc
Are you gonna tell me that post Katakuri fight Luffy is equal to WCI Sanji?
Luffy has a few bites at the apple against his opponent and only just manages to overcome them and it is always debatable whether he's the stronger of the two after his fight, (i.e.Even now folks still have Kaido firmly above Luffy) whereas Sanji and Zoro defeat their opponents at lower difficulties sometimes with some sort of nerf imposed on them to make the fight appear more difficult.
On Wano even though Luffy beat Kaido, Oda gave Zoro a very good showing against him to establish him as a significant threat even to Kaido.
On Egghead even though Luffy fought Kiz, Oda gave Sanji a very good showing against Kiz to establish him a significant threat to the latter.
This is where the disconnect comes from. There's no way you're comparing Zoro scarring Kaido or Sanji kicking a laser to Luffy actively fighting these guys 1v1
What Zoro and Sanji did is impressive I'm not taking anything away from them but slow down. Doing
1 thing to someone that Luffy can actively contend with isn't comparable to actually taking them on
Not really gonna debate a gag scene lol. Moreover, We've scene Nika take a bloody boros breathe and brush it off, Oda can do whatever he wants with him that's just the nature of the character.
Why is it a gag scene? What's your metric for determining it's a gag scene?
If Luffy using G5 makes it a gag scene then every fight from this point onward involving Luffy can't be scaled because it's a gag
Mind you, this was a legitimate strategy that was used in order to remove 1 of the Gorosei from play. I'd hardly call it a gag
Regardless, Luffy is never riducling Sanji in a 1 v 1 but if that's what you believe kudos to you certainly don't agree.
Luffy would embarrass Sanji in a 1v1, hello? We saw Sanji try to contend with the Gorosei in Egghead and he wasn't up to snuff
Luffy could tango with them individually while Sanji didn't stand a chance
You can't be serious lol
There's Sanji fans on here than legit think Sanji > Zoro or that there is absolutely nothing between them whereas I've always been of the opinion Zoro > Sanji with both being relative yet I'm an anomaly amongst Sanji fans?
Amongst Sanji fans period? Yes absolutely lol
If you gathered up 1000 Sanji fans from around the One Piece fandom I'm talking irl, Reddit, Twitter, everywhere and asked them whether Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji are
all relative I'd bet you 100$ the majority would say no. The general consensus is Luffy > Zoro > Sanji and the gaps fluctuate by arc
Either that or people think Luffy is stronger than Zoro who's fairly close to Sanji in strength. I promise you there might not be a single corner of the internet that believes Sanji can give Luffy a serious fight
The debate has always been about his relativity to Zoro and both of them being below Luffy
Just out of curiosity why exactly is Zoro and Sanji relative fair in your book? and what's your take on Luffy and Zoro just out of curiosity.
Zoro and Sanji are relative with Sanji lagging slightly behind him imo and that's fair (to me) just based off what I've seen
Nothing Zoro has done is remarkably more impressive than anything Sanji has done or is capable of in the last 2 arcs. He's more impressive than Sanji but the gap isn't wide
As for Luffy and Zoro I think there's a canyon between the 2 currently. I don't think he'd fold him in base or anything but as soon as G4 Snakeman comes out Zoro just can't deal with it at all
He gets mopped. Kaido in hybrid had 0 answers for Snakeman and had to utilize FS + copy Snakeman's movement in order to bypass it
Zoro has no answers for it and he isn't a durability/endurance monster at the level of Kaido (he is generally but you know what I mean) who was already reeling after nearly every hit
