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Stupidity annoys me
I said academics no?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Jensen
literally a 10 second google search. Like Zenos said, your statement was even more ridiculous because you made an absolute statewhile all I did was an educated assumption because I’m aware of this arguments
Against Logiko? Definitely is. He has 0 awareness of how that region is outside of Palestine
This is why I’m calling you a retard. Not once has Logiko cited a historian during our conversation, I’m arguing his current knowledge vs someone who lives there. I’m also arguing against the idea that just because he read one or two historians it gives him authority to speak over locals because of the fallacy I’ve shown. One can easily pick and choose which academics to listen to and which ones to ignore. Hence why the fallacy exist
I said academics no?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Jensen
literally a 10 second google search. Like Zenos said, your statement was even more ridiculous because you made an absolute statewhile all I did was an educated assumption because I’m aware of this arguments
Against Logiko? Definitely is. He has 0 awareness of how that region is outside of Palestine
This is why I’m calling you a retard. Not once has Logiko cited a historian during our conversation, I’m arguing his current knowledge vs someone who lives there. I’m also arguing against the idea that just because he read one or two historians it gives him authority to speak over locals because of the fallacy I’ve shown. One can easily pick and choose which academics to listen to and which ones to ignore. Hence why the fallacy exist
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@Roo even if Iran won't win this war they are gaining more than they expected themselves
Their shahed drones would be in great demand after the war. Cheaper and easy to mass produce would be sought by many developing nations. Defense exports in unstable region can come really handy for an economy.
Then, they are considering levying toll tax on ships passing through Hormuz. Even if they don't, World knows how important Iran is to have continuous supply of oil and gas through Hormuz. It increased their geopolitical weight on global stage.
Third, lifting up of sanctions on Iranian oil could be seen as an incentive to make Iran not target Gulf oil assets and let ships pass through Hormuz but it's a big win for Iran. They can now supply oil at high prices like Russia (massive gains) while squeezing Hormuz to control supply of oil from Gulf if US and Israel continues to attack.
Iranians should make a statue of Trump lol
Their shahed drones would be in great demand after the war. Cheaper and easy to mass produce would be sought by many developing nations. Defense exports in unstable region can come really handy for an economy.
Then, they are considering levying toll tax on ships passing through Hormuz. Even if they don't, World knows how important Iran is to have continuous supply of oil and gas through Hormuz. It increased their geopolitical weight on global stage.
Third, lifting up of sanctions on Iranian oil could be seen as an incentive to make Iran not target Gulf oil assets and let ships pass through Hormuz but it's a big win for Iran. They can now supply oil at high prices like Russia (massive gains) while squeezing Hormuz to control supply of oil from Gulf if US and Israel continues to attack.
Iranians should make a statue of Trump lol
I get that
No. Your post is a regular tactic we experience from rightist that doesn't understand how leftist activism works everyday. What you say could apply to liberals, not people who are doing their best to share informations on everything or subject they consider being highly important. Like I said, your observation stands in a context of reactionarry tactics that we experience everyday.
I'm physically impacted (literally) by the stress induced by the knowledge of all these subjects and my incapacity to do anything relevant and the fact of trying everyday to fix these biases you are trying to make us aware of. So yeah.. this is triggering for me and you will get an offensive response when you do such things while continuing to vomit reactionnary rethorics on the side.
Why am I talking about Palestinian more than Sudan ? Because we - as westerners - can have much more impact on that conflict than the other and because acting against the west and Israel in Palestine is also fighting the west in Sudan and reducing the power and sources of the conflict.
I don't talk about politics just to talk about it. I talk about it to raise awareness and have an impact.
Who the fuck cares what I know about?
No i'm not a palestinian or Iranian. I don't have a complete knowledge of the situation and i'm not trying to cosplay napoleon. i'm trying to raise awareness about what I know is key to understand the power relationship in this conflict:
- Imperialism
- Racism
If you want to raise awareness, again, do it. Don't use me as an excuse to attack leftist.
There is no conversation here. There is you trying to attack leftist (and me) and me defending them. That's all.
No. Your post is a regular tactic we experience from rightist that doesn't understand how leftist activism works everyday. What you say could apply to liberals, not people who are doing their best to share informations on everything or subject they consider being highly important. Like I said, your observation stands in a context of reactionarry tactics that we experience everyday.
I'm physically impacted (literally) by the stress induced by the knowledge of all these subjects and my incapacity to do anything relevant and the fact of trying everyday to fix these biases you are trying to make us aware of. So yeah.. this is triggering for me and you will get an offensive response when you do such things while continuing to vomit reactionnary rethorics on the side.
Why am I talking about Palestinian more than Sudan ? Because we - as westerners - can have much more impact on that conflict than the other and because acting against the west and Israel in Palestine is also fighting the west in Sudan and reducing the power and sources of the conflict.
I don't talk about politics just to talk about it. I talk about it to raise awareness and have an impact.
Who the fuck cares what I know about?
No i'm not a palestinian or Iranian. I don't have a complete knowledge of the situation and i'm not trying to cosplay napoleon. i'm trying to raise awareness about what I know is key to understand the power relationship in this conflict:
- Imperialism
- Racism
If you want to raise awareness, again, do it. Don't use me as an excuse to attack leftist.
There is no conversation here. There is you trying to attack leftist (and me) and me defending them. That's all.
@Jesse Pinkman Donald Duck flip flops every minute.
Now he has said that he's considering winding up the war and leaving Hormuz as US objectives are achieved.
Don't know then why he's sending few thousands marine corps to the region lol
If his intentions is to not come out as predictable than he's doing a very bad job at it because he's coming out as a bigger clown than world thinks he is.
Saudi Arabia has made a statement last night as well - the war must stop.
I guess Gulf can't take it anymore without risking going offensive against Iran and a full fledge war.
Now he has said that he's considering winding up the war and leaving Hormuz as US objectives are achieved.
Don't know then why he's sending few thousands marine corps to the region lol
If his intentions is to not come out as predictable than he's doing a very bad job at it because he's coming out as a bigger clown than world thinks he is.
Saudi Arabia has made a statement last night as well - the war must stop.
I guess Gulf can't take it anymore without risking going offensive against Iran and a full fledge war.
A good understanding of a subject does not require a complete knowledge of said subject, but solid fundations.
If we learn about global south geopolitics through the western lens, you can be sure that while we will have a good understanding of the forces in presence, we will have absolutely no clues of the deeper layers of imperialism that shapes all these conflicts. It's often why you can see me facing people with a lot of culture and historical knowledge here, with sometimes absolutely 0 historical datas on my hand. I don't need them, or rather, I don't need all of them. And I only use what is necessary.
It's not about ignorance. It's about the understanding that knowledge is as good as its fundation.
For exemple: If you build your entire vision and knowledge of the world around the essentialist notion that men are wolves to other men, no matter how much data or knowledge you have, no matter how many years you put into your understanding... All of it crumbles in front of a simple materialist argumentation and you will be left wondering why you lost all these years learning a lie.
This is why knowledge is not truth, it's an illusion of truth.
Knowledge is a fragile construction that builds up over time on itself. Without good and strong fundamentals. Knowledge can crumble like a card castle:
If we learn about global south geopolitics through the western lens, you can be sure that while we will have a good understanding of the forces in presence, we will have absolutely no clues of the deeper layers of imperialism that shapes all these conflicts. It's often why you can see me facing people with a lot of culture and historical knowledge here, with sometimes absolutely 0 historical datas on my hand. I don't need them, or rather, I don't need all of them. And I only use what is necessary.
It's not about ignorance. It's about the understanding that knowledge is as good as its fundation.
For exemple: If you build your entire vision and knowledge of the world around the essentialist notion that men are wolves to other men, no matter how much data or knowledge you have, no matter how many years you put into your understanding... All of it crumbles in front of a simple materialist argumentation and you will be left wondering why you lost all these years learning a lie.
This is why knowledge is not truth, it's an illusion of truth.
Knowledge is a fragile construction that builds up over time on itself. Without good and strong fundamentals. Knowledge can crumble like a card castle:
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More troops deployment. This is from multiple articles.
The USS Boxer is an amphibious assault ship built to transport Marines from sea to land. It will sail from California to the Middle East alongside two other ships via the Indo-Pacific region, a journey that will take three to four weeks.
USS Boxer will carry 4500 marines and sailors.
Regarding troops movements -
There are several options under discussion. One would be aimed at freeing up passage in the Strait of Hormuz by deploying troops to Iranian ports or small islands in the Persian Gulf to mitigate the threat to vessels, the sources said.
Others include an operation to retrieve Iran’s highly enriched uranium or using troops to seize Iranian oil facilities to cut off a key financial lifeline and attempt to extract concessions from the regime or protecting key US assets in the region.
None of the options that are being seriously considered are expected to involve large-scale deployments like those in the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan.
Things aren't adding up. If Trump wants to wind up then such build up of crisis response force after the war doesn't make sense.
And, if his intentions are to open Hormuz then these vessels would take weeks to reach Hormuz. So doesn't this imply war can stretch for months now?
The USS Boxer is an amphibious assault ship built to transport Marines from sea to land. It will sail from California to the Middle East alongside two other ships via the Indo-Pacific region, a journey that will take three to four weeks.
USS Boxer will carry 4500 marines and sailors.
Regarding troops movements -
There are several options under discussion. One would be aimed at freeing up passage in the Strait of Hormuz by deploying troops to Iranian ports or small islands in the Persian Gulf to mitigate the threat to vessels, the sources said.
Others include an operation to retrieve Iran’s highly enriched uranium or using troops to seize Iranian oil facilities to cut off a key financial lifeline and attempt to extract concessions from the regime or protecting key US assets in the region.
None of the options that are being seriously considered are expected to involve large-scale deployments like those in the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan.
Things aren't adding up. If Trump wants to wind up then such build up of crisis response force after the war doesn't make sense.
And, if his intentions are to open Hormuz then these vessels would take weeks to reach Hormuz. So doesn't this imply war can stretch for months now?
Some people in the west are seriously lost cause.
Was watching some news about North Korea and there were comments (alot of them) praising North Korea and calling US cities shit in comparison to NK lmao
Few propoganda based videos are enough to influence these people lol
Well if the war goes on for months then high prices for oil and gas would get structured which means it will remain high for a long time even after the war.
Was watching some news about North Korea and there were comments (alot of them) praising North Korea and calling US cities shit in comparison to NK lmao
Few propoganda based videos are enough to influence these people lol
Well if the war goes on for months then high prices for oil and gas would get structured which means it will remain high for a long time even after the war.
A bunch of terrorists selling lies + other people's suffering to miserable, brainwashed haters
I could find comfort in the fact that i'm not like these treasonous slop, but for some reason, i'm not happy that i'm ethically superior to the terrorists drilling the country into hell
I always thought that was one of the worst parts of the western world. When freaks tell you, "You should be thankful you're not one of the people america is bombing. You should be thankful. You're not a starving child in africa."
Scary monsters and super freaks.
I could find comfort in the fact that i'm not like these treasonous slop, but for some reason, i'm not happy that i'm ethically superior to the terrorists drilling the country into hell
I always thought that was one of the worst parts of the western world. When freaks tell you, "You should be thankful you're not one of the people america is bombing. You should be thankful. You're not a starving child in africa."
Scary monsters and super freaks.