Controversial Be smart and quit One Piece OR admit you love it

[Starbound Beast D. Draig]

So you don't want to improve your life, get money and make connections with real people in the real world
You want to life in small bubble in the internet, creating a echo chamber with toxic positivity. No life outside of this niche forum, no real firends, no challenges, just living from bread crumbs that the goverment gives you.
Your mid 30s and still thinks your some kind of wannabe revolutionary who changes the world but can't even change the opinion of a small number users here who are still willing to entertain you.

Dude rather wasting your time here by writing walls of texts which very few are reading use your time to fix your life before you end on the street wasting your life

 

[Udell]

Ok, let me explain my pov:


Everyone should be allowed to use their own head to make conscience choices, descision and judgments. I completely agree with that. But this can only happen in an environment where there is no social pressure to developp one specific opinion and right now, in my opinion, this is not the case.

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There is something people must understand : Opinions are like viruses, they can spread depending on various contextual factors, especially social and environmental pressures. Without diving too deep into the concept : the more the people around you will adopt a certain belief and the more you will trust them, the more likely you will be to adopt their belief systems by social pressure. Like a contagion.

95% agree. Opinions are pretty much 100% virus so they are not like a virus they are virus. Our tongues are poison. Social pressure to think One Piece is trash though. I think you may be overreacting a bit my friend.

This is a fanbase, meaning that the love of the material is the factory preset. If the critic of the material outshine the love for the material, we stop being a fanbase and we become a critical book club.

I will be honest I never really view this place as a fan base. One Piece is a story telling manga and everyone is obsessed with power levels here. This place has been toxic from the moment I joined. People generally love to be toxic so my solution for you is to stop discussiong One Piece here. I pretty much only show up here from time to time for the game threads and the NBA thread when I am watching or to spread the gospel. Other than I don't come around because I am not reading One Piece regularly.

What I'm denouncing on this forum, is the presence of a self-inflated bubble of illegitimate critics within the limits of legitimate ones, a bubble taking now so much place that it can push people to start hating the story through social and environmental pressure alone. Just like this kid that you can see on my first post.

In his case, we are not talking about a rationnal opinion based on the knowledge of years of analysis, no, we are talking about a specific mindset shaped by various environmental pressures such as the internet culture or most probably in his case, adult/fan talking or trash talking the story. As you can see, this is a behavior that can also be bend in the other way. It's not specific to One Piece, it's how we human function, it's natural.

But in our cases, it's a problem: The critic of the material is almost taking as much place as the love. Meaning that a critical threashold could be reached in the next few years or sooner.

And just like a BIG belief system can spread rapidly once a threashold is reached within a specific environment... The moment the hatred of One Piece will take more place that the love, the entire fanbase will implode, creating a paradigm where the One Piece fans will probably start to tell people to stop reading the story and will start to be hostile toward One Piece teams and any other fans that will start the journey out of curiousity.

It's just an hypothesis for now, but I've seen the hatred for One Piece grow, I have seen the tubers slowly but surely start to be more and more critical despite having a material that was getting objectively better and better, I've seen the fanbase adopt their rhetoric or the rhetorics of forum like worstgen... This is not looking good.

So why am I obsessing? Because a fanbase is a potential for good, it's a community, people interacting, people meeting, it's a way to create meaning, to escape reality, to organize and in some cases to build something new.

My problem is like many old fanbase who grew up, we stopped building. We even stopped really criticizing the content, we are not simply repeating argument that were created 10,15,20 years ago. And most of all, we stopped dreaming. We stopped being kids in front of the material we consume.

Critics are essentials, but if you can't even enjoy a story, what's the point of being in its fanbase?

Bro, it's vanity at the end of the day. Enjoy the series and sleep peacefully at night.

 

[Logiko]

So you don't want to improve your life

I will improve my life, but not by your standards.
Now drop it please

Social pressure to think One Piece is trash though. I think you may be overreacting a bit my friend.

Well, I thought so too for a long time, then I observed how the fanbase interacted. I've been doing this observation for over 10 years. I can assure you than I'm not emphasizing anything.

It's not a coincidence that we are only now starting to see a big chunk of people wake up about the hatred within the fanbase. The trashtalk always existed, but never to this extent. It's becoming annoying for a lot of people.

I will be honest I never really view this place as a fan base. One Piece is a story telling manga and everyone is obsessed with power levels here. This place has been toxic from the moment I joined. People generally love to be toxic so my solution for you is to stop discussiong One Piece here. I pretty much only show up here from time to time for the game threads and the NBA thread when I am watching or to spread the gospel. Other than I don't come around because I am not reading One Piece regularly.

The problem is that worstgen is known as a One Piece hub still. So fan will eventually end up here regardless or on Arlong Park (which is having pretty much the same problems).

Bro, it's vanity at the end of the day. Enjoy the series and sleep peacefully at night.

You are not wrong but I like being a pain in the ass

 

[Starbound Beast D. Draig]

I will improve my life, but not by your standards.
Now drop it please

And what are your standards

 

[Topi Jerami]

You don't want to get me started on the dissapointment that was Fairy Tail. My anger is still fresh.

Still remember the day when lazy ass Oda decided to go a break, FT's author Mashima decided to release 2 chapters in a week instead. One is a work horse and the other is lazy ass Oda
The master of break
The master of offpanelled battles
The master of irrelevant side characters like the scrubbards and Vegatrash's equally trash clones
The master of flashback at inappropriate times
Even worse, he will also give each of those shitty side characters flashback too

So Fairy Tail was TIERS ABOVE One Piss
Calling Sentinel's boyfriends to back me up @Steven @Tyki_Mikk

 

[Topi Jerami]

Still remember Wano arc days

Lolden wank
Lolden flashback of dancing naked
Nine red scrubbards
Lady Toki doing nothing
Yamao the clown cosplaying equally shitty Lolden

@Logiko : Wano arc was good
Lmao Fairy Tail bodied this shitty arc and shitty series

 

[Juanpiz]

Still remember Wano arc days

Lolden wank
Lolden flashback of dancing naked
Nine red scrubbards
Lady Toki doing nothing
Yamao the clown cosplaying equally shitty Lolden

@Logiko : Wano arc was good
Lmao Fairy Tail bodied this shitty arc and shitty series

Kaido drinking
Big mom being fat and hungry
After all this came Shanks glazing

 

[Logiko]

And what are your standards

Doing what I can

So Fairy Tail was TIERS ABOVE One Piss

 

[Starbound Beast D. Draig]

Doing what I can

And what can you do? What are your skills (besides writing walls of textes to say nothing)? What experience do you have (outside the internet)?

 

[Buusatan94]

Still remember Wano arc days

Lolden wank
Lolden flashback of dancing naked
Nine red scrubbards
Lady Toki doing nothing
Yamao the clown cosplaying equally shitty Lolden

@Logiko : Wano arc was good
Lmao Fairy Tail bodied this shitty arc and shitty series

I just couldn't stand that Oden glazing and how he was treated as the most amazing guy everyone loved and worshiped despite having neither the personality nor actions to justify said glaze and worship, and his stupid actions such as this super cringe and dumb dance; and Yamato's extremely cringe and insane Oden cosplay.

And Toki was so wasted as just being Oden's wife and time travel device when she had so much more potential than that.

And that's not counting how handicaped, neglected and wasted the Beast Pirates were in terms of story, dynamics and powers; and the shitty ways BM was handled in Wano.

One final nail in the coffin was the reveal that Oden's father was alive and had let Orochi claim that he was dead and usurped him and tyrannize Wano, and done nothing to meet or help his family and country afterward.

 

[Logiko]

And what can you do? What are your skills (besides writing walls of textes to say nothing)? What experience do you have (outside the internet)?

I have the experience of being a pain in the ass for sure.

 

[Starbound Beast D. Draig]

I have the experience of being a pain in the ass for sure.

More like having the experience sad existence who achieved nothing meaningful and doesn't even have the motivation too change; wasting away his life to argue with strangers 24/7 on a niche forum

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

More like having the experience sad existence who achieved nothing meaningful and doesn't even have the motivation too change; wasting away his life to argue with strangers 24/7 on a niche forum

Stop being ableist.

 

[vikas]

He seriously believes that we should respect his opinion about what a good critic is when according to him, Oda has never made a mistake... other than not letting Carrot join the crew. Lmfao.

The only mistake oda made was that place where that person did that.

 

[Starbound Beast D. Draig]

Stop being ableist.

Some people need the hard truth, I won't sugar-coat anything and I will not enable self-destructive behaviour

If being an ableist means to help people to achieve more in life, to help them to overcome they short comings rather than keep them stuck in the same place and I ecept no excuses
So no I won't stop being an ableist

 

[Logiko]

More like having the experience sad existence who achieved nothing meaningful and doesn't even have the motivation too change; wasting away his life to argue with strangers 24/7 on a niche forum

Got me again

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Some people need the hard truth, I won't sugar-coat anything and I will not enable self-destructive behaviour

If being an ableist means to help people to achieve more in life, to help them to overcome they short comings rather than keep them stuck in the same place and I ecept no excuses
So no I won't stop being an ableist

Doing something "meaningful" Is subjective.
It depends on passion and you can tell he's enjoying doing this.

Government benefits already covered all the basic needs and wants. So life is good enough

 

[ZenZu]

Still remember Wano arc days

Lolden wank
Lolden flashback of dancing naked
Nine red scrubbards
Lady Toki doing nothing
Yamao the clown cosplaying equally shitty Lolden

@Logiko : Wano arc was good
Lmao Fairy Tail bodied this shitty arc and shitty series

Fairy tail is for gooners

 

[Logiko]

Fairy tail is for gooners

yeah..

 

[Reborn]

I don't know why people think worstgen is so toxic

I mean I have been here when WCI happened and I found this forum more chill compared to what it was during that time.

So, if people feels threatened by present situation then I don't think they could have survived WCI worstgen spoiler discussions or perhaps I became thick skinned lmao