Controversial this scene ruined Zoro.

[Dettles]

the scene where Zoro bows to Mihawk is what ruined his character.

 

[moreha9685]

Nah. This scene is pure character development. He set his pride aside to help his captain.

If anything, every scene after this one ruined Zoro, as he went from this genuine character, able to cry and beg, to a stoic one-liner machine.

 

[Nadel]

Mihawk is a kind person; he is so affectionate.

 

[DenifClock]

I wonder how Oda will set up Zoro vs Mihawk.
I want it to feel like a high-stakes deathmatch rather than just master and student having a duel.
Now that Zoro and Mihawk become so closer with each other, it feels weird.
Mihawk does not feel like an antagonist to me like Nusjuro or Shiryu are.

 

[Goofball_Your_Nika]

ZoLo simply accepted his natural place as a carpet

Enel broke him

 

[Buusatan94]

Nah. This scene is pure character development. He set his pride aside to help his captain.

If anything, every scene after this one ruined Zoro, as he went from this genuine character, able to cry and beg, to a stoic one-liner machine.

Yeah, this scene helped give Zoro depth and development. However, he's been flanderized since, with him only serving as a badass fighter without any real development. Part of why Wano was trash was that it was by far the greatest opportunity to develop Zoro further and give him more depth back, and yet Oda, once more, squandered that opportunity.

That Zoro never went to Ryuma's grave, despite having stated his desire to do so, is the symbol of Zoro's wasted Wano potential.

 

[AER15]

Why didn't Mihawk just low diff Zoro right here? Is he stupid?

 

[moreha9685]

Why didn't Mihawk just low diff Zoro right here? Is he stupid?

Why didn't Hisoka low-diff Gon in the first arc?

Those are bored characters who need toys. You don't play with a toy that's still in its prototype phase. You wait until it is perfected--then you break it.

 

[Topi Jerami]

This scene doesn't ruin Zoro but ruins the whole "Mihawk is Zoro's final enemy" ship

 

[Fn Lucci]

Baroque Works ruined Zoro. I had a gut feeling about his drop in screen time after Alabasta and sure enough, the first five polls tell the story. He got way too popular for Oda's comfort and even if the gap between him and Luffy grows big enough to throw a whole other character in second, Oda is not willing to take the chance.

 

[Dan D. Manne]

No, the scene that ruined Zoro is this one:

It turns Zoro from a cool character into an edgelord who does dumb things under the guise of being cool and suffers zero consequences.

 

[Fn Lucci]

No, the scene that ruined Zoro is this one:

It turns Zoro from a cool character into an edgelord who does dumb things under the guise of being cool and suffers zero consequences.

Yeah, she ended up killing all those poor children

 

[Dan D. Manne]

Yeah, she ended up killing all those poor children

What are you talking about? My point is: Zoro didn't finish his opponent purely for the sake of aura farming, and it would have killed them all if plot convenience didn't make Caesar kill "Smoker" at that very moment.

 

[Fn Lucci]

What are you talking about? My point is: Zoro didn't finish his opponent purely for the sake of aura farming, and it would have killed them all if plot convenience didn't make Caesar kill "Smoker" at that very moment.

Tashigi's opponent

 

[Logiko]

he's been flanderized since

If anything, every scene after this one ruined Zoro, as he went from this genuine character, able to cry and beg, to a stoic one-liner machine.

It turns Zoro from a cool character into an edgelord who does dumb things under the guise of being cool and suffers zero consequences.

Baroque Works ruined Zoro.

the scene where Zoro bows to Mihawk is what ruined his character.

 

[moreha9685]

Congrats, you've learned to multiquote.
The next step should be learning to quote yourself, without having to rely on images.
And the step beyond that yet is to understand that your input isn't valued at all.

 

[Logiko]

Congrats, you've learned to multiquote.
The next step should be learning to quote yourself, without having to rely on images.
And the step beyond that yet is to understand that your input isn't valued at all.

 

[moreha9685]

Yeah, learning ain't your forte. Sorry for demanding too much from you.

 

[Logiko]

Yeah, learning ain't your forte. Sorry for demanding too much from you.

Are you trying to reeasure yourself here?

 

[Buusatan94]

Wano also could have been the opportunity for Zoro to learn more about the great blades, how they were forged, their history and power, and to get a better understanding of his own blades. It could also have been an opportunity to revisit his relations with Kuina and Tashigi upon learning about his family and how Kuina's family came from Wano. Even his feud with King could have been more personal and ideological.