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    Gohoumei and Chu - what to expect?

    Nah I rate him very highly too. My only 'argument' was that Gokei and Reiou weren't far from each other, and Reiou was surpassed 5 years ago. One thing Gokei has that GHM will never have is physical prowess so I see your point. I do put GHM already on the Q6 level, though.
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    We Have Severely Underestimated Kanki

    Why respond to me both here and on discord lol? Your evidence doesn't suggest anything relating to the numbers of the clan, either for or against your argument.
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    We Have Severely Underestimated Kanki

    You have misinterpreted that hype. The Shuma clan are pound for pound or individually, on par with the Zenou clan. They are a small clan though. They don't have the numbers of the Zenou clan. That's why it is the Zenou clan, who have both power and number, who are used as the primary...
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    Gohoumei and Chu - what to expect?

    I'm a huge fan of Gokei, but you think GHM is still inferior as of right now?
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    Rules Kingdom General Discussion

    I think Riboku ultimately had Ousen beat on SP but unfortunately his guys lost every duel in situations where they were told not to do anything drastic. Bananji had Ousen beat, but that was ruined by C+G ignoring Bananji's orders (which woulda been from Riboku) to just block off that side so...
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    We Have Severely Underestimated Kanki

    Shuma have 200 and Zenou is much bigger, so there's that. There's never been any indication that they're tiny (obviously they aren't 5k+)
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    Kingdom chapter 742

    official chap is out now
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    We Have Severely Underestimated Kanki

    I'm sure Zenou is (was?) 1k at the absolute minimum. Somewhere in the 1-3k range.
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    Shunsuiju is Heavenly King Level

    I believe Keisha is a level up from any Heavenly King or Bananji/SSJ. Although he was ultimately a pretender, anyone who is in the conversation for a GH position would be above them.
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    Gohoumei and Chu - what to expect?

    Last we heard was that GHM was around Han, right? I don't expect to see any Chu-GHM confrontation as such. I do think Chu and Han will come together and I believe they'll take something - perhaps Juuko. But I don't see GHM being a factor, simply because I'd be surprised if Hara dehypes him...
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    Spoiler General Kingdom Spoiler

    That's what I'm saying - "If Kanki did it". Kanki is just about the only man who would do it. Riboku believes he will do it, precisely because of how Kanki operates.
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    Spoiler General Kingdom Spoiler

    He cares for the citizens and felt Kanki could brutalise them. That's point. If Tou had this exact same strategy as Kanki, brutalising the civillians would not be a possibility (or probability?) and therefore, not something Riboku would crap his pants over.
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    Spoiler General Kingdom Spoiler

    Let's put that into some perspective though. Kanki's psychological warfare is (in part) so incredible due to the pure, evil depths that he is prepared to go to. Riboku is by nature a good person. He cares for his state. Anyone who cares for people will automatically be in trouble against...
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    Spoiler General Kingdom Spoiler

    Unless he's a bowman and can deflect arrows, i don't see it. I think Kaine might die here.
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    Spoiler General Kingdom Spoiler

    Riboku with those hundreds of thousands of troops has rendered a 200k( or whatever) Qin army to a mere 10k. His army has utterly destroyed the Qin army. Kanki has played a great hand here - which is a play that results in a big L for Qin unless Riboku dies here and now. Not to mention Riboku...
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    Chu's true power.

    Qin are basically there now tbf. New gen will rise, but i assume they will possibly lose some by then too. Either way, Hara is writing a story so you can bet than when the two line up, it will be 50-50. Actually it will probably be odds on for Chu, so that Qin can surpass the odds.
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    Spoiler General Kingdom Spoiler

    this would be cool How can you say kanki has harassed riboku all arc? Riboku played the hell out of qin from day 1 and has ravaged Qin at every turn. Kanki has lost 90% of his army. He had Gian only because Shin performed a top tier, Duke level moment and escaped. Otherwise it would have been...
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    Spoiler General Kingdom Spoiler

    yeah seeing some come out of retirement to see their master's unification dream fulfilled, would be great. It'd also give Hara a chance to kill a really strong character on Qin's side.
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    Spoiler General Kingdom Spoiler

    I assume it would be Shunsuiju.
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    Spoiler General Kingdom Spoiler

    Next chapter is called "Riboku's Shield".
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