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  1. Uncle Van

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    Yes. Is there supposed to be some disagreement here? Lol. Government consolidating power to state in a universal thing in authoritarian regimes in general. The Fascist mainly pushes extreme levels of tradition and loyalty to the nation, all the while protecting capitalist interest. The...
  2. Uncle Van

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    I mentioned that earlier but I was generalizing in that last post to counter what Nameless was saying. I said Fascism is about social hierarchy and nationalism doing a fusion dance and taken to the extreme. The national purity is also the main thing about Nazism. On the economic side though...
  3. Uncle Van

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    This isn't about capitalism vs communism, but about a guy who claims with all his soul that Hitler was a leftist in every way based on his own personal world view. Hitler was a far rightist during his regime. Fascism and Nazism are far right ideologies. Nameless claims they are all left wing...
  4. Uncle Van

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    Everybody dies during revolution. Stalin killed many fellow communists, socialist, and leftist because of his paranoia and power struggle lol. Hitler on the other hand didnt have a leftist ideology and actively sought to kill them off and remove leftism entirely.
  5. Uncle Van

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    Oh hey, Hitler also condemned communism and killed many of them. So Hilter wasn't a true Christian because he went against its values, but he is a true leftist despite going against it's values and trying to remove it from the country lol.
  6. Uncle Van

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    @Zenos7 you called it. And he's perfectly proving the point without knowing it lol He already expressed that definitions dont matter if they dont fit his worldview. At least it is consistent lol
  7. Uncle Van

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    Nameless- no such thing as Trans women Ryo- no such thing as gay marriage No wonder they hit it off so well
  8. Uncle Van

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    Quick question....you once said Hitler had a "socialist upbringing" as evidence that he was was leftist(or was that Mussolini but point stands), completely ignoring that he targeted leftist during his regime. Hitler also had a Christian upbringing and committed atrocities. Was his Christian...
  9. Uncle Van

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    So right wing values that you yourself hold, taken to the extreme by a dictator, is somehow not right wing because you don't like it?
  10. Uncle Van

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    "All definitions that doesn't fit my worldview is wrong." How convenient. So we can just make things up as we go...
  11. Uncle Van

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    It was Nameless. What is the point of definitions if one can just dismiss them because it doesn't fit their worldview? Is a cat no longer a cat because someone disagrees that history shouldn't call it a cat? And academics agreed that Fascism and Nazism are far right ideologies. Books from...
  12. Uncle Van

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    What I say is supported by history. The definitions are accurate because they are also historically accurate. When events in history doesnt align with one's personal belief system do they ignore definitions and replace them with versions unique to themselves. That's how you get opinions like...
  13. Uncle Van

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    Nope. Left wing and right wing dictators are similar in their methods of authoritarianism. Left wing mostly focus on economic models(public ownership) and has the goal of equality albeit mainly in fucked ways. Right wing focuses on national n' social purity and tradition, which describes Hitler...
  14. Uncle Van

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    Hey what gives? Why dodge the fact that prominent right wingsl traits taken to the extreme were mandatory for Fascism and Nazism? Come back!
  15. Uncle Van

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    But he is still a textbook far rightist by definition. Don't care about your what ifs. Give me actual evidence that says the opposite by definition
  16. Uncle Van

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    I thought social hierarchy and the value you bring to society determining your place were predominantly right wing traits?
  17. Uncle Van

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    That's somehow better than thinking Hitler was a leftist lol
  18. Uncle Van

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    A textbook far rightist by definition is a tame centrist according to you so what's the problem?
  19. Uncle Van

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    Let it be known that presidents who: -supported, enforced, and tried bringing back slavery - Created Jim Crow - Deemed being gay a mental illness - created concentration camps for those who look foreign - funded the KKK and had dinner with them in the WH - Fought against women's rights -blamed...
  20. Uncle Van

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    It's very funny and sad how majority of arguments fall apart simply by using terminology correctly
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