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Yeah, it has to be Kuzan at the moment.

Kuzan has his own agenda, but counting him as part of the group it is Blackbeard.

Kaku awakening in 2 years makes everyone else including Luffy look like clowns. Luffy had his fruit for over a decade…embarrassing.

It’s likely just Caribou, judging from Oda’s track record.

So it was Warcury as predicted. Looks like the robot is going to use “that” on Ju Peter & Warcury next.

Pringles and some others, irc

Precisely. If anything, Joyboy is the one painted as a problem through his speech. He wants to pass on the Ancient Weapons that sunk most of the world in a prolonged war. Up to 20 kingdoms had to come together to oppose him. For the average person that doesn’t sound like a good guy. Vegapunk...

Maybe Zoro really needed that boost from Sanji insulting him to finally overcome the leopard :shame:

I doubt any Admiral is going to show up at Elbaf. It’s more likely that Oda goes for the full complement for the final war. It’s too late to try and be replacing Admirals at this point.

Luffy was still laughing after he saw Kizaru skewer Vegapunk. He was even laughing beforehand when Vegapunk was bleeding out on the ground. He was on the ship going “Hya ha ha! This is gonna be fun,” with Vegapunk’s dead body just a little distance away. Simply terrible.

Luffy is laughing his ass off while the man he promised to protect is dead. Oda has lost the plot for a while now

No, of course not. Anyone who loved Luffy’s character pre-time skip would be appalled by the Nika personality

It should have been clear to folks that Oda held Whitebeard in higher regard than those 2. :kayneshrug:

The fans themselves are varied as hell. It’s a messy morass of all sorts from the abominable to the delightful….so 3 (really 2.5). That’s the average rating for any fandom.

Robin. Chilling reading a book is the greatest pastime.

Hiruluk turned some poor sick man into a frog. He’d definitely be incarcerated for medical malpractice :pepestop:

Crocodile’s for sure. Sengoku’s plan to wipe out the Whitebeard pirates was also pretty solid. He couldn’t have accounted for Luffy’s menagerie from Impel Down showing up to foul things.

No he didn’t. Luffy grabbed him from behind after he killed Vegapunk and then threw him. He was not interested in fighting Luffy to begin with. So after reluctantly fulfilling his mission, why would he want to keep fighting? Luffy tossed him away to his lamentations, but that’s obviously not...

So Kizaru just choosing not to continue to fight because of his emotional turmoil? That’s obviously not a defeat, especially when it’s a direct result of his success. Why did you think no one has mentioned anything about defeat?

When did Luffy defeat Kizaru? How is Vegapunk dead if that were the case?