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That's the point, it's ideal for plot twist, most aren't ready for it.

Once she's taken down for real and forever, and won't be seen again as an antagonist in any arc, then you can discuss about her relevancy or "fails". Before that, it's all build up by Oda.

luffy's heart

sabo TBH 1601324336 Again those who don't understand shit about PL still deny that he is admiral tier or pretty much there.

Well, if the mammoth is worthy of your respect, then i wonder what are worthy the minks, and the dukes for putting their life on the line for the reuniting thing in 20 years, beeing devastated by jack's gas, losing part of their body, facing then kaido with a mere alliance of 5k men against 30k...

well the episode were Luffy punched the celestial dragon

ki d attacked her base, and defeated snack and run away 1601108600 well Luffy has to beat her tho

sabo

yes they will 1600528467 well the scabbards will damage kaido, take down jack and then be shut down. it's enough. the SN will fight the crew of bm and bm herself, that's already enough. i'm not sure about law and kidd since both have a grudge against beast pirates tho

well he is a side character, who cares

well if you don't think that current luffy will push to extrême diff any admiral or even win, let alone his yonko level post wano, and given that sabo is still stronger than him, i can't do nothing for u

Admirals will hype him very hard. They already did it - especially kuzan and kizaru - in MF when he was a total weakling when he revealed his COC. Shanks and BB will do it on their own. He will be considered as a Top tier by your average citizen as he already was in shabaondy post TS. BUT the...

Pretty easy, luffy is already admiral tier in current wano. At the end of this arc he will be at worst yonko tier because he will manage to beat more or less 2 yonkos. And, sabo was already stronger than luffy by a good margin, and was pretty equal to ace. So do your maths.Even current fleet...

bc it's for wankers

tbh exactly my thought. one is among the few that look badass and the other is a fag ... same goes for the féminist girl, such personnality/characters killer 1600389460 what do we know about this fight exactly ? wdym with bandage , i mean all we know is sabo's defeat. 1600389900 makes sense...

Still doesn't fit with the narrative of the current events in the reverie, at least unofficially.

It's actually the case, and beside Sabo - which is admiral tier and slightly above - and dragon, nobody is top tier. But why is it like that ? i mean, they are the only one, even more than pirates or yonko to aim for the WG and the tenruybito, who have the strongest individuals behind them who...