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Neoliberal capitalism and social democracies can both be corrupted and authoritarian without regulation, thought it's easier for dictators to arise with socialism as seen time and time again.

Neoliberal capitalism is bad. It's completely unregulated and rapidly getting worse. European countries have way more regulation so the people got a better balance of life.

My brain says stop but the pettiness in my heart says go for 20....

Ain't no fucking way.... EDIT: It is 9...

Finally? This is like my 3rd time explaining this point of view. Indeed to an extent. Infinite growth or die is the law of the current system. The CEO must generate revenue for the shareholders(millionaire and billionaire ones) or else they pull out and crash the company. How they generate...

You think the CEO is a family man who's not really responsible for people dying. Just a yes man doing job and involved in shady business aka blood money. You believe tobacco is also a shady business involved in blood money(objectively is and even I mentioned their lobbying to say tobacco is...

Lol aren't you doing the same thing then?

Holy shit why 5 different posts? Once again, you're obsessed with this idea that I'm trying to gatekeep tobacco for some reason, when the whole point is that you're comparing apples to oranges. For example, when I said that the company focuses to reducing the risks of tobacco in response to...

Once again strawmanning me so many times. - you believe tobacco can be fair, healthy and honest - you want an apology. - you think indirect involvement is free of guilt There's got to be a limit to how much one can assume to justify using logic that says anyone in those industries are complicit...

Could've sworn you wanted to drop the subject...oh well. I was SPECIFICALLY talking about a guy in a position of power, making decisions to make people's lives worse to the point of death, all in the name of profit. You said it was ironic I was saying this, that I was a hypocrite, and shouldn't...

Starts the subject with a crazy equivalence in the first place and quadruples down, then asks to drop it. Yeah sure lol

And they objectively make no sense, especially considering it's a company that focuses on reducing the harm of tobacco.

Of course I did. It just doesn't make any sense like the ones before.

Ain't nothing moral nor immoral about it. I was specifically criticizing a CEO for denying healthcare and causing deaths. You said I'm a hypocrite for calling him out and applied logic that says everyone is complicit. All this because I'm invested in a tobacco company that focuses on reducing...

Honestly looks like he's using his personal hatred of the stuff as a substitute for objectivity. His logic says someone who invests in an energy stock for the dividend payout for example, is as equally responsible as politicians waging war in the middle east for their resources. Invest in a...

And as I explained to you earlier, that means anyone who works in the tobacco and health industries, even if it's just a receptionist, is equally complicit in destroying lives. And it puts them in a postion where they can't call out someone in power, who is directly making decisions to kill...

Aka you can't talk down a guy killing people if you invest....

Nameless was enforcing his values onto me, trying to make it seem like I'm complacent in killing people and defending drug/tobacco usage. He made a direct comparison by saying I'm a hypocrite for calling out a CEO for abusing his power and denying people healthcare for profit. As if investing...

Which makes them completely fucked up for killing innocent people. A retail employee who sells tobacco, a truck driver who delivers tobacco, factory workers who makes tobacco, and people who handles phone calls shouldn't be viewed as liable. They are workers trying to make a living. It ain't...