General & Others “Right behind Rayleigh” Behind, BEHIND. The Okama fandom takes another L for premature glaze over meaningless words.

Delusion. At no point was sanji stronger than zoro on wano.
At no point in the story period
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Sanji beat a 1.32 billion Berry commander same time as Zoro beating a 1.39 billion Berry commander.

Idk why you think there’s some monster gulf when Oda had their opponents at the same level
Bounties don’t equal unless you have Buggy > Sanji stop trying to use that argument.
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Giants said shoulder to shoulder, not close
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Parallels are true
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WB has far more feats than Roger

Rogers portrayal carries him
So since Luffy parallels Roger, does that mean Roger is his ceiling? Even though he will accomplish what no one ever has?

If Sanji gets to EOS and never beats a top tier will you still consider him to be a similar level as Luffy who beat one two arcs ago without hitting his peak?
 
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At no point in the story period
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Bounties don’t equal unless you have Buggy > Sanji stop trying to use that argument.
Quote where Oda specifically had someone say Sanjis and Buggy’s bounty was accurate to their strength like Marco did for Queen?

The fact that Oda had to actively put this in for “powerscalers” to still miss the point is peak agenda.
 
Zoro fan before this chapter:
That Ray is introduced as a legend like Whitebeard, therefore Ray and Whitebeard are equal
Zoro fan after this chapter:
Just because Gaban is a legend like Roger and Ray doesn't mean they are equal
:suresure::suresure::suresure::suresure:
Nobody thinks Rayleigh and WB are equal.
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Quote where Oda specifically had someone say Sanjis and Buggy’s bounty was accurate to their strength like Marco did for Queen?

The fact that Oda had to actively put this in for “powerscalers” to still miss the point is peak agenda.
I don’t have an agenda. Sanji could be the pirate king for anll I care if the feats make sense, but they won’t. All Marco said is it’s hard fighting two people with a 1 billion berry bounty. That’s not proving anything.
 
Nobody thinks Rayleigh and WB are equal.
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I don’t have an agenda. Sanji could be the pirate king for anll I care if the feats make sense, but they won’t. All Marco said is it’s hard fighting two people with a 1 billion berry bounty. That’s not proving anything.
The feats are there, you just actively ignore them or downplay them lmao

And no Marco said two people with a bounty “more than a billion.” And yeah, Marco directly equating their bounty to their fighting power proves literally everything? Idk how you can lie and say it means nothing?
 
Just see the raw japanese terms

Then look back into portrayal of Roger and Ray + hierarchy we have seen

You will understand that Gaban got portrayal of being close and not equal

Now you are just leeching off to Gaban portrayals to make Sanji look good before even Oda delivers


What would you do if Oda doesn't deliver on it? We know he often doesn't carry forward with his own plan so what would you do when at EoS sanji won't even fight an opponent on par with the opponents of Zoro and Luffy?

Stop leeching and wait for oda to deliver and execute. Till then all I can say is future of Sanji looks promising
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Does bounty is the only thing which reflects the gap?

What about CoC and advanced haki?

What about Zoro vs hakai or him scarring kaido?


There is clear gap between Zoro and sanji and anyone can see and gap is even bigger when it comes to Luffy.
CoC and Advanced Haki doesn’t matter when characters without either are stronger than characters with both (Kizaru has neither but he still would beat Zoro or Yamato or Luffy)

And despite how impressive Zoro was on the rooftop, Oda immediately said, “Yeah but he’s not strong enough to beat a 1.39 Billion Berry commander” and was getting decimated before getting his PU.

There’s no large gap. Oda used rooftop to equate the monster trio that’s all. He used Zoro as the bridge to show that Zoros comparable to Luffy then used he matchups to show he’s comparable to Sanji to show that the monster trio are comparable in general.

Just like next fight, Zoro and Sanji will fight a left and right hand commanders with similar bounties both getting a power up, because that’s just how Oda writes.
 
The feats are there, you just actively ignore them or downplay them lmao

And no Marco said two people with a bounty “more than a billion.” And yeah, Marco directly equating their bounty to their fighting power proves literally everything? Idk how you can lie and say it means nothing?
Please name the feat that Sanji has which is comparable to Zoro using Ashura on Kaido or Luffy Bajrang Gun?

Give me one comparable to Zoro taking Hakai and one comparable to Luffy eating Kizarus lasers.

Don’ttry to divert just tell me about Sanji’s comparable feats.
 
Please name the feat that Sanji has which is comparable to Zoro using Ashura on Kaido or Luffy Bajrang Gun?

Give me one comparable to Zoro taking Hakai and one comparable to Luffy eating Kizarus lasers.

Don’ttry to divert just tell me about Sanji’s comparable feats.
Why do I need to compare rooftop feats when that version of Zoro was still too weak to beat someone Oda, Marco, Ryo, and Zoro said was comparable to Queen who Sanji defeated?

Doesn’t make much sense now does it. Sounds like you’re the one diverting cause you know you’re wrong.
 

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Why do I need to compare rooftop feats when that version of Zoro was still too weak to beat someone Oda, Marco, Ryo, and Zoro said was comparable to Queen who Sanji defeated?

Doesn’t make much sense now does it. Sounds like you’re the one diverting cause you know you’re wrong.
They aren't comparable.
One was beaten by basic haki
The other needed acoc
The others dna made yonko luffy compare children to kaido
 
Why do I need to compare rooftop feats when that version of Zoro was still too weak to beat someone Oda, Marco, Ryo, and Zoro said was comparable to Queen who Sanji defeated?

Doesn’t make much sense now does it. Sounds like you’re the one diverting cause you know you’re wrong.
Don’t try that Jedi mind trick bullshit with me. Can you provide comparable feats? Or will you admit that Sanji doesn’t have any?
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Right behind Rayleigh is supposed to be an L for Sanji fans?
That’s not the L. Being behind Rayleigh is fine. The L is with Sanji fans saying he will be equal to Luffy or Zoro. That’s just nonsensical. They have never been equal. Even if we look at the parallels, to Rogers crew their names clearly give away the hierarchy. Gold is more valuable than Silver which is more valuable than Copper. Someone posted it earlier.

Sanji fans are so desperate to get at Zoro and Luffy fans that they look for Ws that simply don’t exist and it slaps them in the face every time.
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It is not copper it is scopper, it is not gold it is gol D. :okay:
So you’re choosing to be ignorant huh
 
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Why do I need to compare rooftop feats when that version of Zoro was still too weak to beat someone Oda, Marco, Ryo, and Zoro said was comparable to Queen who Sanji defeated?

Doesn’t make much sense now does it. Sounds like you’re the one diverting cause you know you’re wrong.
Zoro couldn’t damage King, thinking that rooftop Zoro is struggling to damage Queen is funny when he could see basic kicks from Sanji drawing blood
 
Don’t try that Jedi mind trick bullshit with me. Can you provide comparable feats? Or will you admit that Sanji doesn’t have any?
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That’s not the L. Being behind Rayleigh is fine. The L is with Sanji fans saying he will be equal to Luffy or Zoro. That’s just nonsensical. They have never been equal. Even if we look at the parallels, to Rogers crew their names clearly give away the hierarchy. Gold is more valuable than Silver which is more valuable than Copper. Someone posted it earlier.

Sanji fans are so desperate to get at Zoro and Luffy fans that they look for Ws that simply don’t exist and it slaps them in the face every time.
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So you’re choosing to be ignorant huh
It’s not mind trick? It’s just logic. What’s the point in bringing up the rooftop when Oda made it clear that that Zoro can’t beat a character he repeatedly called comparable to Queen?

When Oda himself considers defeating a character comparable to King as a bigger feat than everything Zoro did on the rooftop, it sounds like you’re just being nit picky.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
It’s not mind trick? It’s just logic. What’s the point in bringing up the rooftop when Oda made it clear that that Zoro can’t beat a character he repeatedly called comparable to Queen?

When Oda himself considers defeating a character comparable to King as a bigger feat than everything Zoro did on the rooftop, it sounds like you’re just being nit picky.
Because kings defence is superior to yonkos

Queen is fodder

Can be hurt by chopper or sanjis ass haki
 
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