General & Others “Right behind Rayleigh” Behind, BEHIND. The Okama fandom takes another L for premature glaze over meaningless words.
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I used M2 just to avoid writing Luffy and Zoro names as I am lazy
Also, Sanji has been part of M3 but what's actually dishonest is to believe that his feats puts him close to Luffy and zoro.
Leeching off to Gaban and projecting that to current Sanji won't change the present realities
So?
Where's the sanji portrayal and feat?
Zoro faced 2 yonkous
Sanji didn't
Zoro got advanced haki training
Sanji didn't
Zoro faced Hakai
Sanji didn't
Zoro has been seen as VC and some even questioned why he's not the captian
Sanji didn't
Zoro got AdCoc in a world where haki triumphs all
Where's Sanji CoC?
And, don't even let me start with Luffy because Sanji would look absolute clown in front of him.
Stop leeching off to Gaban portrayal to make AT PRESENT Sanji look good.
Be happy that Future ceiling of Sanji would be close to Zoro and Luffy and wait patiently for Sanji feats to cover the gap
Also, Sanji has been part of M3 but what's actually dishonest is to believe that his feats puts him close to Luffy and zoro.
Leeching off to Gaban and projecting that to current Sanji won't change the present realities
So?
Where's the sanji portrayal and feat?
Zoro faced 2 yonkous
Sanji didn't
Zoro got advanced haki training
Sanji didn't
Zoro faced Hakai
Sanji didn't
Zoro has been seen as VC and some even questioned why he's not the captian
Sanji didn't
Zoro got AdCoc in a world where haki triumphs all
Where's Sanji CoC?
And, don't even let me start with Luffy because Sanji would look absolute clown in front of him.
Stop leeching off to Gaban portrayal to make AT PRESENT Sanji look good.
Be happy that Future ceiling of Sanji would be close to Zoro and Luffy and wait patiently for Sanji feats to cover the gap
Honestly whether Sanji is currently at the place relative to Luffy/Zoro as Gaban was relative to Rayleigh/Roger is a different discussion.
It's true that throughout the series, the gap between Zoro and Sanji has fluctuated as they both received powerups. Early Wano, Sanji had the raid suit and Zolo was getting pushed by Denjiro and 1-shotted by Killer, at that point (with Raid Suit) Sanji was dead equal if not stronger. Currently based on feats Zoro is a tier stronger
But EOS, Luffy/Zoro/Sanji will reflect their parallels and Rayleigh was >= Gaban, so Zoro will be >= Sanji. Not a tier apart but relative equals with Zoro being a little stronger
Not close, fucking equal lmaoo
You're a Luffy fan who doesn't want what the giants said this chapter about Roger/Gaban/Rayleigh to be literal, but instead some symbolic, hearsay remark
It's true that throughout the series, the gap between Zoro and Sanji has fluctuated as they both received powerups. Early Wano, Sanji had the raid suit and Zolo was getting pushed by Denjiro and 1-shotted by Killer, at that point (with Raid Suit) Sanji was dead equal if not stronger. Currently based on feats Zoro is a tier stronger
But EOS, Luffy/Zoro/Sanji will reflect their parallels and Rayleigh was >= Gaban, so Zoro will be >= Sanji. Not a tier apart but relative equals with Zoro being a little stronger
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Not close, fucking equal lmaoo
You're a Luffy fan who doesn't want what the giants said this chapter about Roger/Gaban/Rayleigh to be literal, but instead some symbolic, hearsay remark
Honestly whether Sanji is currently at the place relative to Luffy/Zoro as Gaban was relative to Rayleigh/Roger is a different discussion.
It's true that throughout the series, the gap between Zoro and Sanji has fluctuated as they both received powerups. Early Wano, Sanji had the raid suit and Zolo was getting pushed by Denjiro and 1-shotted by Killer, at that point (with Raid Suit) Sanji was dead equal if not stronger. Currently based on feats Zoro is a tier stronger
But EOS, Luffy/Zoro/Sanji will reflect their parallels and Rayleigh was >= Gaban, so Zoro will be >= Sanji. Not a tier apart but relative equals with Zoro being a little stronger
Not close, fucking equal lmaoo
You're a Luffy fan who doesn't want what the giants said this chapter about Roger/Gaban/Rayleigh to be literal, but instead some symbolic, hearsay remark
It's true that throughout the series, the gap between Zoro and Sanji has fluctuated as they both received powerups. Early Wano, Sanji had the raid suit and Zolo was getting pushed by Denjiro and 1-shotted by Killer, at that point (with Raid Suit) Sanji was dead equal if not stronger. Currently based on feats Zoro is a tier stronger
But EOS, Luffy/Zoro/Sanji will reflect their parallels and Rayleigh was >= Gaban, so Zoro will be >= Sanji. Not a tier apart but relative equals with Zoro being a little stronger
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Not close, fucking equal lmaoo
You're a Luffy fan who doesn't want what the giants said this chapter about Roger/Gaban/Rayleigh to be literal, but instead some symbolic, hearsay remark
I prefer antagonists over MCs.
Second, if you think a mere line from a giant puts Gaban equal to Roger disregarding the clear portrayal difference we have seen so far then we have to end this discussion right here because I am not interested in debating two piece
Hierarchy within the crew is clear cut.
Luffy is the strongest
Zoro is the second strongest
Sanji comes third.
This is the thing from the beginning and oda will never change it regardless of cope from any fandom.
Gap as of now is big between them (feats and portrayal speaks for themselves) but Gaban statement leaves room for them being close at the end which makes sense as well.
That is portrayal you dumb ape
What the fuck is portrayal if Oda literally says 2 characters are equal isn't portrayal
I'm sorry you lack the brainpower to recognize how Gaban, Rayleigh and Roger can all be equal but also have a hierarchy in power
That is to say, you fail to see how they can be relatively equal even if Roger is slightly stronger than Rayleigh, who's slightly above Gaban
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Stronger but barely
What the fuck is portrayal if Oda literally says 2 characters are equal isn't portrayal
I'm sorry you lack the brainpower to recognize how Gaban, Rayleigh and Roger can all be equal but also have a hierarchy in power
That is to say, you fail to see how they can be relatively equal even if Roger is slightly stronger than Rayleigh, who's slightly above Gaban
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That is portrayal you dumb ape
What the fuck is portrayal if Oda literally says 2 characters are equal isn't portrayal
I'm sorry you lack the brainpower to recognize how Gaban, Rayleigh and Roger can all be equal but also have a hierarchy in power
That is to say, you fail to see how they can be relatively equal even if Roger is slightly stronger than Rayleigh, who's slightly above Gaban
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Stronger but barely
What the fuck is portrayal if Oda literally says 2 characters are equal isn't portrayal
I'm sorry you lack the brainpower to recognize how Gaban, Rayleigh and Roger can all be equal but also have a hierarchy in power
That is to say, you fail to see how they can be relatively equal even if Roger is slightly stronger than Rayleigh, who's slightly above Gaban
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Stronger but barely
Gaban is close to Ray and Roger but not equal to Roger and Ray.
Write it down because it's clearly going over your head.
And, you still stuck in Enies lobby with doriki which happened decades ago. So spare me this BS because you clearly don't understand what's doriki is
Try to catch up with one piece
And, resorting to insults is the first sign of losing the argument so thank you for proving that you have no grounds really
Also on portrayal
Imagine thinking a giant statement eclispe all the portrayal Roger enjoys prior to this
Talk about leeching at it's finest lmao
Honestly whether Sanji is currently at the place relative to Luffy/Zoro as Gaban was relative to Rayleigh/Roger is a different discussion.
It's true that throughout the series, the gap between Zoro and Sanji has fluctuated as they both received powerups. Early Wano, Sanji had the raid suit and Zolo was getting pushed by Denjiro and 1-shotted by Killer, at that point (with Raid Suit) Sanji was dead equal if not stronger. Currently based on feats Zoro is a tier stronger
But EOS, Luffy/Zoro/Sanji will reflect their parallels and Rayleigh was >= Gaban, so Zoro will be >= Sanji. Not a tier apart but relative equals with Zoro being a little stronger
Not close, fucking equal lmaoo
You're a Luffy fan who doesn't want what the giants said this chapter about Roger/Gaban/Rayleigh to be literal, but instead some symbolic, hearsay remark
It's true that throughout the series, the gap between Zoro and Sanji has fluctuated as they both received powerups. Early Wano, Sanji had the raid suit and Zolo was getting pushed by Denjiro and 1-shotted by Killer, at that point (with Raid Suit) Sanji was dead equal if not stronger. Currently based on feats Zoro is a tier stronger
But EOS, Luffy/Zoro/Sanji will reflect their parallels and Rayleigh was >= Gaban, so Zoro will be >= Sanji. Not a tier apart but relative equals with Zoro being a little stronger
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Not close, fucking equal lmaoo
You're a Luffy fan who doesn't want what the giants said this chapter about Roger/Gaban/Rayleigh to be literal, but instead some symbolic, hearsay remark
Oda has characters be relatively equal, but not absolutely equal, all the time
Akainu and Aokiji fought for ten days, they were relatively equal, but Akainu was absolutely stronger
He was >= Aokiji, rather than >
Hey at least at one point you acknowledge Zoro and Sanji were roughly equal
But Oda changed his mind I guess
Early Wano Zoro was looking shit getting embarrassed by Hawkins, Killer, Denjiro, Apoo
RS Sanji was looking superior
Akainu and Aokiji fought for ten days, they were relatively equal, but Akainu was absolutely stronger
He was >= Aokiji, rather than >
Hey at least at one point you acknowledge Zoro and Sanji were roughly equal
But Oda changed his mind I guess
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Early Wano Zoro was looking shit getting embarrassed by Hawkins, Killer, Denjiro, Apoo
RS Sanji was looking superior
Oda has characters be relatively equal, but not absolutely equal, all the time
Akainu and Aokiji fought for ten days, they were relatively equal, but Akainu was absolutely stronger
He was >= Aokiji, rather than >
Hey at least at one point you acknowledge Zoro and Sanji were roughly equal
But Oda changed his mind I guess
Akainu and Aokiji fought for ten days, they were relatively equal, but Akainu was absolutely stronger
He was >= Aokiji, rather than >
Hey at least at one point you acknowledge Zoro and Sanji were roughly equal
But Oda changed his mind I guess
Zoro got advanced hakis
Zoro got advanced coc.
Zoro fought yonko
Zoro beat a right hand
Sanji got basic haki
Muh equals
Oda has characters be relatively equal, but not absolutely equal, all the time
Akainu and Aokiji fought for ten days, they were relatively equal, but Akainu was absolutely stronger
He was >= Aokiji, rather than >
Hey at least at one point you acknowledge Zoro and Sanji were roughly equal
But Oda changed his mind I guess
Akainu and Aokiji fought for ten days, they were relatively equal, but Akainu was absolutely stronger
He was >= Aokiji, rather than >
Hey at least at one point you acknowledge Zoro and Sanji were roughly equal
But Oda changed his mind I guess
We are taking about hierarchy within Roger's crew and SHs crew so stick to it rather than shifting goal posts.
You clearly mentioned them being "EQUAL"
I can show you evidence of Zoro being referred as second strongest and Luffy as strongest.
I can clearly show you the difference in feats between Luffy, Zoro and Sanji
I can clearly show you that only WB was truly equated with Roger and Ray was called as legendary.
Gaban was put close...CLOSE to Ray and Roger and NOT EQUAL.
This applies to EOS sanji and NOT CURRENT Sanji
Sanji even then will be third strongest but closer to Zoro and Luffy.
I mean seriously don't know what one piece you people read...
Sanji doesn't even get CoC or any advanced haki while Zoro and Luffy are getting haki training (twice ) and advanced versions and this is when Haki triumps all is the power system
Sanji dream is finding all blue while Zoro and Luffy wants to be at the peak of their respective goals - WSS and PK
And, yet you think Sanji would be equal to them lmao
You're just using a shotgun argument throwing a bunch of shit at the wall because it makes your argument sound "better"
I agree current Sanji is a tier below Zoro
EOS Sanji is relatively equal to Zoro like the Giants say. They didn't say "close"
Portrayal > feats in the end. Gaban has 0 feats but it didn't stop Oda from putting him as equal to Rayleigh
Early Wano Zolo was too busy getting smoked by a scrubbard Ryokugyu wrapped in vines like a pita wrap
I agree current Sanji is a tier below Zoro
EOS Sanji is relatively equal to Zoro like the Giants say. They didn't say "close"
Portrayal > feats in the end. Gaban has 0 feats but it didn't stop Oda from putting him as equal to Rayleigh
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Early Wano Zolo was too busy getting smoked by a scrubbard Ryokugyu wrapped in vines like a pita wrap
What are you waffling about?
Portrayal> feats matters only until we aren't getting feats
Once feats are there they matter the most.
And, since you admit current sanji is tier below Zoro so we are done here.
Let's talk about EoS sanji and where he stands then when Oda actually delivers on it rather than arguing based on a lolipop he has given you all to chew and stay happy
Portrayal> feats matters only until we aren't getting feats
Once feats are there they matter the most.
And, since you admit current sanji is tier below Zoro so we are done here.
Let's talk about EoS sanji and where he stands then when Oda actually delivers on it rather than arguing based on a lolipop he has given you all to chew and stay happy
It does matter
Where's Rogers feats
Yeah current Sanji is a tier below
Oda already delivered, he just said they're equal in the end
Where's Rogers feats
Yeah current Sanji is a tier below
Oda already delivered, he just said they're equal in the end
He said Gaban was close and not Sanji will be close.
Fans are speculating that Sanji would be close EoS based on parallels. Big difference
Let him execute because this is once again Sanji fans going nuts like it happened in WCI
Oh it's Sanji year
He will beat X, Y, Z
Only for you all to get Sanji baking cake
And, Roger feats?
Roger vs Oden
Roger vs WB
Just catch up with one piece
You're just using a shotgun argument throwing a bunch of shit at the wall because it makes your argument sound "better"
I agree current Sanji is a tier below Zoro
EOS Sanji is relatively equal to Zoro like the Giants say. They didn't say "close"
Portrayal > feats in the end. Gaban has 0 feats but it didn't stop Oda from putting him as equal to Rayleigh
Early Wano Zolo was too busy getting smoked by a scrubbard Ryokugyu wrapped in vines like a pita wrap
I agree current Sanji is a tier below Zoro
EOS Sanji is relatively equal to Zoro like the Giants say. They didn't say "close"
Portrayal > feats in the end. Gaban has 0 feats but it didn't stop Oda from putting him as equal to Rayleigh
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Early Wano Zolo was too busy getting smoked by a scrubbard Ryokugyu wrapped in vines like a pita wrap