General & Others “Right behind Rayleigh” Behind, BEHIND. The Okama fandom takes another L for premature glaze over meaningless words.

[Reborn]

Roger >= Ray >= Gaban

They can't be dead ass equal.

Gold > Silver > Copper

Luffy > zoro > Sanji has always been a thing

 

[Sir Yasheen]

There is no need to go through multiple translations


"Shoulder to shoulder" implies strength.

Obviously Gaban wasn't equal to Roger and Ray

But he could be closer to Ray and Roger in strength.

Roger > Ray > Gaban with all 3 being close to each other
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Yeah same tier but clear hierarchy is best way to read that.

 

[Reborn]

Yeah same tier but clear hierarchy is best way to read that.

IKR

I always speak faxx afterall

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[Hamlette]

Right Behind – This means very close to something or someone, whether in physical position, ranking, or importance.
Its okay to be behind in that case :) if you claim , there are huge cap , i can show that official translation :))

"Right behind" is not the term that was used here at all. It's "Narabi" (並び) which can be translated to, "on par", "equal to", " alongside" or "in parallel", all of which imply equality/comparability, especially in this context. "After" and "behind" are not words used in the original Japanese text.

 

[RyoQ]

They can't be dead ass equal

They aren't dead ass equal

They're relatively equal

Rayleigh is slightly stronger hence it's not =, but he's also not an entire tier stronger as > would imply. He's >=

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"Right behind" is not the term that was used here at all. It's "Narabi" (並び) which can be translated to, "on par", "equal to", " alongside" or "in parallel", all of which imply equality/comparability, especially in this context. "After" and "behind" are not words used in the original Japanese text.

Let the people hear it

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Luffy > zoro > Sanji has always been a thing

Au contrare it's always been Luffy > Right Wing >= Left Wing

20 doriki difference

 

[Reborn]

They aren't dead ass equal

They're relatively equal

Rayleigh is slightly stronger hence it's not =, but he's also not an entire tier stronger as > would imply. He's >=

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Let the people hear it

I said the same thing though lmao

All 3 are closer to each other so why you quoted me?

 

[mrtsrdr]

"Right behind" is not the term that was used here at all. It's "Narabi" (並び) which can be translated to, "on par", "equal to", " alongside" or "in parallel", all of which imply equality/comparability, especially in this context. "After" and "behind" are not words used in the original Japanese text.

I just saying lets be like that . Again , they is no implications about huge gap . Even with this case , it means very close to each other. Why are they happy i do not know :)

 

[RyoQ]

I said the same thing though lmao

All 3 are closer to each other so why you quoted me?

Luffy>Zoro>Sanji is incorrect, that implies they are each a tier apart

Zoro ain't a tier above Sanji, he's >=

 

[Reborn]

Luffy>Zoro>Sanji is incorrect, that implies they are each a tier apart

Zoro ain't a tier above Sanji, he's >=

As of now there is a gap. Obviously I won't say it's whole ass tier but yeah there is a considerable gap between the 3...feats and portrayal wise

Gaban portrayal cements Sanji EOS threshold and not what's right now

 

[Fujishiro]

Luffy>Zoro>Sanji is incorrect, that implies they are each a tier apart

Zoro ain't a tier above Sanji, he's >=

Nice profile picture.

 

[RyoQ]

Nice profile picture.

Thanks boo

The 2 best frens

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As of now there is a gap. Obviously I won't say it's whole ass tier but yeah there is a considerable gap between the 3...feats and portrayal wise

Gaban portrayal cements Sanji EOS threshold and not what's right now

Gaban just nuked that supposed gap between Zoro and Sanji

20 doriki difference is eternal

 

[Reborn]

Thanks boo

The 2 best frens

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Gaban just nuked that supposed gap between Zoro and Sanji

20 doriki difference is eternal

Gaban didn't nuke anything though.

Gaban was equated to Ray and Roger.

Sanji wasn't equated to Luffy and Zoro.


We are simply speculating that if Gaban was closer the them then.. EOS ceiling of Sanji might be closer to M2 as well.

But as of now? Nah

Quote me when Sanji does anything close to what pre PU Zoro and luffy did at rooftop

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

. EOS ceiling of Sanji might be closer to M2 as well.

M2 isn't a thing, M3 is. If you need to make up a grouping while ditching the actual, canon grouping that fits how Roger-Rayleigh-Gaban were portrayed, then it's dishonest to say Sanji hasn't been equated to Luffy and Zoro.

 

[RyoQ]

Gaban was equated to Ray and Roger.

Sanji wasn't equated to Luffy and Zoro

Lool

Quote me when Sanji does anything close to what pre PU Zoro and luffy did at rooftop

Killer was also on the Rooftop

At the end of the day Luffy told Zoro go downstairs and fight Lueen's partner

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Gaban didn't nuke anything though.

Gaban was equated to Ray and Roger.

Sanji wasn't equated to Luffy and Zoro.


We are simply speculating that if Gaban was closer the them then.. EOS ceiling of Sanji might be closer to M2 as well.

But as of now? Nah

Quote me when Sanji does anything close to what pre PU Zoro and luffy did at rooftop

I mean the point of the rooftop was to equate them.
Zoro was comparable to Luffy on the rooftop then after the rooftop, Zoro after getting a power up defeated someone comparable to who Sanji defeated after getting a power up.

 

[Urouge D. Rouge]

behind rayleigh...rayleigh was the bottom?!

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

@Sir Yasheen tag all of the rest of your cohort and tell them to read the viz, it’s the official translation. Shoulder to shoulder doesn’t mean strength by the way.

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

They aren't dead ass equal

They're relatively equal

Rayleigh is slightly stronger hence it's not =, but he's also not an entire tier stronger as > would imply. He's >=

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Let the people hear it

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Au contrare it's always been Luffy > Right Wing >= Left Wing

20 doriki difference

20 cm difference

 

[Rumble]

Little Garden went over y'all heads and some of you are pushing 30.


It's wild how few of you are picking up the deliberate difference in metaphors. Hands aren't equal unless you're ambidextrous. Rayleigh was the clear second in command by title. The hierarchy on the Roger Pirates went beyond the captain. The hierarchy begins and ends with Luffy on the SHP.

Wings are equal, they're supposed to be, otherwise you can't fly well or straight, if at all.

 

[RyoQ]

Little Garden went over y'all heads and some of you are pushing 30.


It's wild how few of you are picking up the deliberate difference in metaphors. Hands aren't equal unless you're ambidextrous. Rayleigh was the clear second in command by title. The hierarchy on the Roger Pirates went beyond the captain. The hierarchy begins and ends with Luffy on the SHP.

Wings are equal, they're supposed to be, otherwise you can't fly well or straight, if at all.

But Zboys told me Zoro was the "main wing"