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#47
He one shotted him

Both got sneaky attacks on each other one was wounded the other one was instant knock out
not exactly the same
not a one shot either
he had been hit with attacks like boro breadth just prior
the battle was far longer than we saw
and when oden cut him at no point was a third party distraction needed. kaido was lacking in coo seems more likely

on the other hand , the old hag using oden's child to prevent him from killing kaido
kaido using that opportunity to land a fatal attack is "sneaky".

for reference, sneaky:
furtive; sly.
"sneaky, underhanded tactics"

oden's attack was not.


 
#49
not exactly the same
not a one shot either
he had been hit with attacks like boro breadth just prior
the battle was far longer than we saw
and when oden cut him at no point was a third party distraction needed. kaido was lacking in coo seems more likely

on the other hand , the old hag using oden's child to prevent him from killing kaido
kaido using that opportunity to land a fatal attack is "sneaky".

for reference, sneaky:
furtive; sly.
"sneaky, underhanded tactics"

oden's attack was not.


yes thats what I mean they battled then Odem saw that Kaido didnt pay attention look at the panel Oden being pushed back by Boro breath Kaido is in the sky not really paying attention then Oden size the moment got a sucker punch and then Kaido seize the moment and sucker punched him
Kaido koed him and Oden didnt
 
#50
yes thats what I mean they battled then Odem saw that Kaido didnt pay attention look at the panel Oden being pushed back by Boro breath Kaido is in the sky not really paying attention then Oden size the moment got a sucker punch and then Kaido seize the moment and sucker punched him
Kaido koed him and Oden didnt
wrong
I posted the two pages in succession
kaido has oden right in front of him
its not a " sneak"

on kaido's part its not only an interruption by a third party
but he gets hit from behind




kaido Koing or not imo is expected , oden is human but that situation wouldnt arise if the old hag didnt interuppt kaido had a very solid chance of losing .
I would argue it looked like he was going to.


20 yrs later
kaido still fears oden



knocking out oden has more to do with oden being distracted than the difference in strength between them cause kaido has made it very clear
oden was capable of ending him .




his words not mine.
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from these panels it seems like kaido wants to die cause he won that fight unfairly
when he remembers oden
he recalls the hostage situation
food for thought.
 
#51
wrong
I posted the two pages in succession
kaido has oden right in front of him
its not a " sneak"

on kaido's part its not only an interruption by a third party
but he gets hit from behind




kaido Koing or not imo is expected , oden is human but that situation wouldnt arise if the old hag didnt interuppt kaido had a very solid chance of losing .
I would argue it looked like he was going to.


20 yrs later
kaido still fears oden



knocking out oden has more to do with oden being distracted than the difference in strength between them cause kaido has made it very clear
oden was capable of ending him .




his words not mine.
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from these panels it seems like kaido wants to die cause he won that fight unfairly
when he remembers oden
he recalls the hostage situation
food for thought.
look at your picture above Kaido fires boro breath Oden is being pushed back then in the next panel you see a black visage of Kaido far above from Oden
Kaido didnt anticipate or paid attention of Odens totsuka attack and Oden got a finally one hit after hours of fighting then Kaido also got a sudden hit

both were sucker punch attacks

Kaido respects Oden its his first and only scar
Kaido challenged the marines and yonko but none of them could give him a permanent scar-like Oden did
Kaido also first goes dragon mode and when he starts to become serious he changes back to human form
He didnt even use hybird form

In his dragon form the 9 scabbards got many hits and one clean hit in his human form they coudlnt deal any real damage to him Denjiro was sweated away like an Ant when he pierced him
just because Oden got a hit on Kaido doesnt mean he could get a hit on his human form too
In his human form he is better suited for battle

Look the 9 were hopelessly outmatched against Kaido e
 
#52
look at your picture above Kaido fires boro breath Oden is being pushed back then in the next panel you see a black visage of Kaido far above from Oden
Kaido didnt anticipate or paid attention of Odens totsuka attack and Oden got a finally one hit after hours of fighting then Kaido also got a sudden hit

both were sucker punch attacks

Kaido respects Oden its his first and only scar
Kaido challenged the marines and yonko but none of them could give him a permanent scar-like Oden did
Kaido also first goes dragon mode and when he starts to become serious he changes back to human form
He didnt even use hybird form

In his dragon form the 9 scabbards got many hits and one clean hit in his human form they coudlnt deal any real damage to him Denjiro was sweated away like an Ant when he pierced him
just because Oden got a hit on Kaido doesnt mean he could get a hit on his human form too
In his human form he is better suited for battle

Look the 9 were hopelessly outmatched against Kaido e
"look at your picture above Kaido fires boro breath Oden is being pushed back then in the next panel you see a black visage of Kaido far above from Oden.Kaido didnt anticipate or paid attention of Odens totsuka attack and Oden got a finally one hit after hours of fighting then Kaido also got a sudden hit "
again oden doesnt hit kaido when kaido is far above him so that irrelevant
oden approaches kaido right at his front and then lands the attack . its not by definition a sneak attack .


wdym just cause he could hit his dragon form doesnt mean he can hurt him human form too
his durability is his scales
quite literally stated by luffy . are you really going to argue kaido is the first zoan who's base form is more durable than his zoan form?
that would imply he is more durable without the fruit.thats ill advised.




In his human form he is better suited for battle - true
but his human form isnt tankier than his dragon form


"Look the 9 were hopelessly outmatched against Kaido"
yeah cause they arent oden, kaido literally says so here

kaido quite clearly implies if they were as capable as oden was
they would be able to kill him . read the last panel.

kaido has been defeated 7 times
whether or not they left a scar is irrelevant .

luffy has been defeated by crocodile
lucci(1st round)
kuma
and neither of those people left a scar .
 
#53
"look at your picture above Kaido fires boro breath Oden is being pushed back then in the next panel you see a black visage of Kaido far above from Oden.Kaido didnt anticipate or paid attention of Odens totsuka attack and Oden got a finally one hit after hours of fighting then Kaido also got a sudden hit "
again oden doesnt hit kaido when kaido is far above him so that irrelevant
oden approaches kaido right at his front and then lands the attack . its not by definition a sneak attack .


wdym just cause he could hit his dragon form doesnt mean he can hurt him human form too
his durability is his scales
quite literally stated by luffy . are you really going to argue kaido is the first zoan who's base form is more durable than his zoan form?
that would imply he is more durable without the fruit.thats ill advised.




In his human form he is better suited for battle - true
but his human form isnt tankier than his dragon form


"Look the 9 were hopelessly outmatched against Kaido"
yeah cause they arent oden, kaido literally says so here

kaido quite clearly implies if they were as capable as oden was
they would be able to kill him . read the last panel.

kaido has been defeated 7 times
whether or not they left a scar is irrelevant .

luffy has been defeated by crocodile
lucci(1st round)
kuma
and neither of those people left a scar .
Ehm no

He wants to die he wouldnt mind if they would be able to kill him but they cant do it Kaido generally doesnt mind if he wants to die he is actually searching for a place to die even marines and yonkos couldnt kill him Oden also couldnt kill him

They are not Oden even Oden got knock out from one direct hit

also look at this panel

Kaido spams Boro breath Oden falls now look at the panel he try to stand up Kaidos black covered above him and look at the direction of his body it doesnt even point to Oden
Oden is at his left side and then Oden charges forward and get one hit at Kaido

This is sneaky because Kaido wasnt prepared for it

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wdym just cause he could hit his dragon form doesnt mean he can hurt him human form too
his durability is his scales
quite literally stated by luffy . are you really going to argue kaido is the first zoan who's base form is more durable than his zoan form?
that would imply he is more durable without the fruit.thats ill advised."

Yes in Kaidos case it is or his human form is durable as his Dragon form
Luffy points it out and did attacked Kaido in his human form too with gear 4 and Kaido withstand it
So what do you conclude from it ?
He changes back in his human form and round up the scabbards easily while in his Dragon form they could fight better

Lol in the end Kaidos human form is superior to his dragon form

Both Oden and Kaido got one attack at each other Kaido stands Oden falls
 
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