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I'd rather have Zoro vs King full fight instead of Zoro "helping" with Kaido and being off panneled by Luffy cuz we know Luffy will do most of the Job whether u like it or not...
On the opposing side of this issue, I myself would much prefer seeing Zoro and Mugiwara cooperating to take down Kaido the Hundred Beasts. King the Conflagration being defeated by Zoro is meaningless. There is nothing to be gained by having him defeat yet another opponent whose relevancy in the arc hasn't been established in 45 chapters, whereas having the two original crew members helping one another to vanquish Wano's malevolency allows for wider growth for both characters. So far as I am concerned, may King the Conflagration fight Eustace Kid as Zoro avenges Kozuki Oden.
 
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On the opposing side of this issue, I myself would much prefer seeing Zoro and Mugiwara cooperating to take down Kaido the Hundred Beasts. King the Conflagration being defeated by Zoro is meaningless. There is nothing to be gained by having him defeat yet another opponent whose relevancy in the arc hasn't been established in 45 chapters, whereas having the two original crew members helping one another to vanquish Wano's malevolency allows for wider growth for both characters. So far as I am concerned, may King the Conflagration fight Eustace Kid as Zoro avenges Kozuki Oden.
Zoro isnt avenging Oden
He is avenging Yasu

Zoro isnt gonna get credit for taking down Kaido
Just like he didnt at Dr except it was law and luffy who took credit and took down Doffy

Luffy Kidd law are the ones that will gain credits and hype
 
Zoro isnt avenging Oden
He is avenging Yasu

Zoro isnt gonna get credit for taking down Kaido
Just like he didnt at Dr except it was law and luffy who took credit and took down Doffy

Luffy Kidd law are the ones that will gain credits and hype
I am sorry for this misunderstanding, but I believe Zoro will be given what credit he has accumulated in this endeavor. In the commentary you quoted, I spoke freely of my earnest desires without using the manga to support my stance. Here, I will do the same, so please take it as such and not the soap box pontifications of a self indulgent loon.

The arc of Wano began under ornery occurrences, Zoro and Mugiwara finding a rare meeting between them despite the many weeks apart. Their joy and kinship together was truly remarkable and my favorite inclusion in Wano as we've progressed. They are above all else, brothers. Mugiwara is set to do battle and vanquish Kaido the Hundred Beasts, I hold no alternative theory. But it is not unlikely nor implausible that the man who holds the Kozuki survivors dear shall defend the honor of said clan and battle besides his brother. An outcome more desirable than having Zoro be pitted against an opponent whose presence in the story is negligible. Wouldn't you agree?
 
Guys like luffy has slowly progressed by taking on high tiers like doflamingo, cracker, katakuri and slowly became stronger, increased his stamina and endurance, had days long battle with cracker and katakuri, and increase haki levels and unlocked advanced versions of coa and coo.

Zoro didn't progress since post ts because he only had joke battles like monet, pica, hyozo. his only extreme battle was with kamazo, that if kid himself is high tier then kamazo is not more then mid tier.

zoro jumping from mid tier to beat top top tier makes no sense. he would have slowly progresses like luffy by taking on 3 high tiers since dressrosa, like luffy.

even jimbe had more training then zoro with his days long battle with high tier ace, fighting admirals in the war, fighting bm pirates.
Zoro literally says "Mastering Enma would make him stronger"

But nope, of course Zoro doesn't have any progression in strength because between Water seven and Ennies lobby, something as monumental as a haki draining sword was introduced to justify Zoro and anyone else getting stronger
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Then lanji s fight will not be queen maybe perospero or drake
I mean how a dude that got destroyed by mingo and vergo will fight a calamity
To be fair, Mingo is a bad match-up for Sanjino while Queen seems straightforward without tricky abilities, his plaque aside and RS can probably keep him safe from that. That is, if Queen doesnt use swords or at least uses them to a degree of Luffy's sword mastery.
 
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stealthblack

Zoro literally says "Mastering Enma would make him stronger"

But nope, of course Zoro doesn't have any progression in strength because between Water seven and Ennies lobby, something as monumental as a haki draining sword was introduced to justify Zoro and anyone else getting stronger

it drains his own haki, it would help if it drains kaidou 's haki but no.

Oden had same sword and another special sword and he is dead and defeated by kaidou.

and the sword doesn't make you stronger. is only uses the haki zoro ALREADY HAS, it just focuses it all in one big blow.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
it drains his own haki, it would help if it drains kaidou 's haki but no.

Oden had same sword and another special sword and he is dead and defeated by kaidou.

and the sword doesn't make you stronger. is only uses the haki zoro ALREADY HAS, it just focuses it all in one big blow.
No it doesnt. When he mastered it it doesnt drain his haki anymore. It has increased his haki control and mastery through training.
Again no it doesnt.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
Zoro literally says "Mastering Enma would make him stronger"

But nope, of course Zoro doesn't have any progression in strength because between Water seven and Ennies lobby, something as monumental as a haki draining sword was introduced to justify Zoro and anyone else getting stronger
They will realize this the moment they realize Enma is a strengthening tool and now the reason for Zoro's renewed strenght.
 
it drains his own haki, it would help if it drains kaidou 's haki but no.

Oden had same sword and another special sword and he is dead and defeated by kaidou.

and the sword doesn't make you stronger. is only uses the haki zoro ALREADY HAS, it just focuses it all in one big blow.
Dude I'm not getting into an argument over this...
If you have a problem with it then address the panels... I'm not gonna argue your HEAD CANON
 
zoro's assumption when it shown to work differently just above.
Zoro's not assuming anything... the sword forces it's user to get stronger if they are to use it properly... its a training wheel... Are you seriously not able to understand that training makes people stronger in one piece? Like how come Luffy unlocked advanced armament by just training wth out armament Katakuri level fights but Zoro training with a haki draining sword that actually forces you to have alot of Haki and lot of haki control somehow doesn't mean Zoro will get stronger

Geez, this is bordering on willful ignorance
 
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stealthblack

Zoro's not assuming anything... the sword forces it's user to get stronger if they are to use it properly... its a training wheel... Are you seriously not able to understand that training makes people stronger in one piece? Like how come Luffy unlocked advanced armament by just training wth out armament Katakuri level fights but Zoro training with a haki draining sword that actually forces you to have alot of Haki and lot of haki control somehow doesn't mean Zoro will get stronger

Geez, this is bordering on willful ignorance

he gets stronger same way he would get stronger using any other sword, that is how it works.

in short, zoro is not taking on kaidou
 
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