2 sword Zoro vs Law

[ZenZu]

ypu mean as in if ashura has prop up time it willgive law an opening?

That's a part of it. Though it'd be dishonest to solely rely on something as flimsy as that. We all know how meaningless start up times actually are when it comes to this manga. But then again Katakuri was able to stop G4, so mindset is to be considered.

My main point was base Zoro can already deflect Law's slashes just fine, Asura isn't giving him any game changing boost in that department since Zoro is the superior CQC combatant to begin with.
Where Law becomes a threat is when he has room to operate from a comfortable range where his opponents can't parry his attacks. And Asura most likely won't be solving that problem any more than Base Zoro already can.

Where I do see Asura giving a boost in the matchup is sneak up attacks from the rear which we've seen Law try before. So that's definitely something. But that itself is boxing Asura into half of what makes it great. Hence Asura in other matchups =/= Asura in this matchup.

Defeating Law isn't simply a matter of throwing a continent buster at him.

 

[Zenos7]

Taking no damage...

It's a cutting attack, if laws arms got cut we'd clearly know.

No probably involved. Law has all the feats needed to low/mid diff pica. Open the thread if u need commencing.
OK
True let me chill

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That's a part of it. Though it'd be dishonest to solely rely on something as flimsy as that. We all know how meaningless start up times actually are when it comes to this manga. But then again Katakuri was able to stop G4, so mindset is to be considered.

My main point was base Zoro can already deflect Law's slashes just fine, Asura isn't giving him any game changing boost in that department since Zoro is the superior CQC combatant to begin with.
Where Law becomes a threat is when he has room to operate from a comfortable range where his opponents can't parry his attacks. And Asura most likely won't be solving that problem any more than Base Zoro already can.

Where I do see Asura giving a boost in the matchup is sneak up attacks from the rear which we've seen Law try before. So that's definitely something. But that itself is boxing Asura into half of what makes it great. Hence Asura in other matchups =/= Asura in this matchup.

Defeating Law isn't simply a matter of throwing a continent buster at him.

ty for elaborating. dont have anything to add to that

 

[ZenZu]

How is the secret to Law's attacks his range? All his dangerous attacks are meele attacks.

His "dangerous" attacks. As far as immediate life or death is concerned. That's true.

His regular room slashes are non lethal yet they are also fight ending. (See Vergo). Problem is they can be deflected if you can hit or parry his blade.

If he can complete his swing before you deflect the actual physical blade that's when they are effective (hence "range", used loosely here I know)

 

[Zenos7]

How is the secret to Law's attacks his range? All his dangerous attacks are meele attacks.

room. he can use small rocks to throw to get into close range really fast, so range is a somewhat relevant factor

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His "dangerous" attacks. As far as immediate life or death is concerned. That's true.

His regular room slashes are non lethal yet they are also fight ending. (See Vergo). Problem is they can be deflected if you can hit or parry his blade.

If he can complete his swing before you deflect the actual physical blade that's when they are effective (hence "range", used loosely here I know)

they can also be dodged

 

[XGoldrogeRX]

even with 3 swords law will mid diff zoro. forget bout 2 swords.

look what happen to hawkin against law.compare that to zoro who get nailed by hawkin

 

[ZenZu]

room. he can use small rocks to throw to get into close range really fast, so range is a somewhat relevant factor

I think he was asking about the moves themselves but If we're talking about his whole fighting style. His spatial manipulation is a massive factor as well. He can rearrange terrain and the environment in ways to distract and damage the opponent. So obviously him having room to do that benefits him greatly, whereas being all up in his grill doesn't give him the luxury of doing that.

 

[OmegaPsyche]

His "dangerous" attacks. As far as immediate life or death is concerned. That's true.

His regular room slashes are non lethal yet they are also fight ending. (See Vergo). Problem is they can be deflected if you can hit or parry his blade.

If he can complete his swing before you deflect the actual physical blade that's when they are effective (hence "range", used loosely here I know)

It don't make sense. Why would Law teleport near Hawkins if he could achieve da same thing from long range?

 

[Zenos7]

I think he was asking about the moves themselves but If we're talking about his whole fighting style. His spatial manipulation is a massive factor as well. He can rearrange terrain and the environment in ways to distract and damage the opponent. So obviously him having room to do that benefits him greatly, whereas being all up in his grill doesn't give him the luxury of doing that.

i'm not sure rearranging the terrain will help against zoro necessarily

 

[ZenZu]

It don't make sense. Why would Law teleport near Hawkins if he could achieve da same thing from long range?

Simple. His attack would probably be easier to dodge. When I say range I don't mean it in the traditional sense. I simply mean he has to be able to complete his swing, if you can make contact with his blade you can effectively deflect his strike. It's harder to explain when I can't post panels for you to visualize. Law's ability is one hell of a puzzle.

& at the end of day One Piece fights end with ultimate attacks clashing, nitoryuu doesn't give me too much confidence in Zoro's ability to break through Law's higher end attacks.

And this is why I'm saying it's pointless to rely on it atm. Law isn't exactly your traditional fighter where we can give Asura the win based on a final clash (aka being stronger). There is no "breaking through". He is based off hax there is no ultimate move clash with him, how would Gamma Knife even clash with a physical sword slash? And his regular room slash isn't even a real physical slash so there is no clash to be had, you either deflect it before he can aim it at you or you risk being split in half (is that even an ultimate move to begin with?).

 

[Trafalgar_D_Law]

i'm not sure rearranging the terrain will help against zoro necessarily

It should be able to create distractions. For law to find openings. Similar to the smoker fight with the exception being, Zoro doesn't have logia intangibility.

 

[Zenos7]

It should be able to create distractions. For law to find openings. Similar to the smoker fight with the exception being, Zoro doesn't have logia intangibility.

nah, zoro should be able to sense law with CoO.

also he should be able to destroy whatever law would be rearranging, even though i dont think that'd be necessary

 

[Venom]

nah, zoro should be able to sense law with CoO.

also he should be able to destroy whatever law would be rearranging, even though i dont think that'd be necessary

Thank god Zoro didn't went to wci otherwise he would have stomped big mom.

 

[Zenos7]

Thank god Zoro didn't went to wci otherwise he would have stomped big mom.

how did you reach that conclusion?

 

[Venom]

how did you reach that conclusion?

Yes, Zoro armament is better than bigmom according to his wankers

 

[Trafalgar_D_Law]

nah, zoro should be able to sense law with CoO.

also he should be able to destroy whatever law would be rearranging, even though i dont think that'd be necessary

Doffy/smoker were caught by law using the element of surprise.

There mobile/speed/CoO are all superior to Zoros. Not saying he'd be caught indefinitely or instantly. But it's damn sure going to keep Zoro on his toes.

Of course there just distraction

 

[ZenZu]

nah, zoro should be able to sense law with CoO.

also he should be able to destroy whatever law would be rearranging, even though i dont think that'd be necessary

Replace Smoker here [1] (a logia), with Zoro.

When it was even effective against a Logia who can almost ignore the attack, against Zoro it would obviously be extremely effective, and serve as a distraction.

Zoro got caught offguard because he had to worry about Gyukimaru trying to stab him, ofcourse some random pillar popping up out of nowhere would be useful against Zoro while he is trying to focus on Law.

But again, location matters, we don't know exactly what Law will have at his disposal.

 

[Trafalgar_D_Law]

Fuck does this mean?
Law didn't no sell that attack?
Or that ur still questioning pica vs law?

 

[Zenos7]

Fuck does this mean?
Law didn't no sell that attack?
Or that ur still questioning pica vs law?

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Yes, Zoro armament is better than bigmom according to his wankers

why is that relevant to me saying something about his CoO though?

Lmao

 

[Venom]

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why is that relevant to me saying something about his CoO though?

Lmao

Then his coo is better than katakuri... Oh sorry rayleigh

 

[HA001]

Replace Smoker here [1] (a logia), with Zoro.

When it was even effective against a Logia who can almost ignore the attack, against Zoro it would obviously be extremely effective, and serve as a distraction.

Zoro got caught offguard because he had to worry about Gyukimaru trying to stab him, ofcourse some random pillar popping up out of nowhere would be useful against Zoro while he is trying to focus on Law.

But again, location matters, we don't know exactly what Law will have at his disposal.

Actually zoros fought 2 opponents before more than once and been fine defending himself, the issue with the gyhukimaru one is he thought gyuki wouldnt attack, poor judgement on his behalf. Even kawamatsu said they had werent really trying to kill each other when he saw them. And besides random items popping in and out would just be sliced through with ease.