Future Events 7 Reasons Why Imu isn't the FV
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I mean, I doubt that the message was something as a date which is best fitting for attacking the world government. It was more of a prophecy saying that around that time, a chosen one will come who inherits Joyboy's/Nika's will and will lead the world to face the WG, which by now is happening, which is reinforced by Vegapunk's speech, that the war is still going on. So to me it sounds weird and artificial for Luffy to reach Laughtale, read a message that goes like "now's the time to attack the WG", making Luffy attack the WG. There is no point in needing to reach Laughtale at a given date before attempting to strike the WG.
Yes, that's the point, hence reaching Laughtale on its own is pretty useless. All Roger learned reaching Laughtale, is that he is not Joyboy who will lead the world against the WG. Luffy doesn't need to reach Laughtale to learn he is the chosen one in order to have the motivation to lead the world against the common enemy, he is doing it as we speak, turning people into his allies and fighting the WG.
Yes, that's the point, hence reaching Laughtale on its own is pretty useless. All Roger learned reaching Laughtale, is that he is not Joyboy who will lead the world against the WG. Luffy doesn't need to reach Laughtale to learn he is the chosen one in order to have the motivation to lead the world against the common enemy, he is doing it as we speak, turning people into his allies and fighting the WG.
It’s not going to be that literal lmfao. It’s going to be something like “now is the time to destroy the red line and restore the world to its rightful state.” Which the WG will oppose and thus the war begins.
You have to think about it, Roger didn’t even have the Ancient Weapons back then. Uranus was completely unknown to him (the WG has it), and Poseidon wasn’t born yet. So Roger couldn’t have even utilized them (like Soyboy wanted) anyway.
That was probably why it was too soon.
You have to think about it, Roger didn’t even have the Ancient Weapons back then. Uranus was completely unknown to him (the WG has it), and Poseidon wasn’t born yet. So Roger couldn’t have even utilized them (like Soyboy wanted) anyway.
That was probably why it was too soon.
Luffy has absolutely zero idea
- That he's got the Nika fruit
- That he's essentially Joyboy 2.0
- Of everything the WG has done to the world
That's likely not the case, both sides seemed to have a reason for war
The man who perpetrated all this mayhem was most likely Blackbeard and Xebec's evil D. ancestor
Teach has intel on two ancient weapons, and his crew is manned with all kinds of unique powers making them worldclass criminals
Once he has one or two ancient weapons he will be a serious contender for the throne of the world
The man who perpetrated all this mayhem was most likely Blackbeard and Xebec's evil D. ancestor
Teach has intel on two ancient weapons, and his crew is manned with all kinds of unique powers making them worldclass criminals
Once he has one or two ancient weapons he will be a serious contender for the throne of the world
We know considerably more about Blackbeard than we do Imu
Roger isn't Joyboy who has been battling a continuous war with Imu and the WG for almost a millennia... Luffy is Joyboy.
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Roger isn't Joyboy who has been battling a continuous war with Imu and the WG for almost a millennia... Luffy is Joyboy.
We haven't had a blackbeard centred arc yet. Oda is giving the gorosei/imu arc first. After vegapunk message especially all the one piece world focus is on world government whom are trying to sink the world, thats the immediate threat. makes no sense for the story to suddenly change direction to focus on blackbeard
The final words of dying WB on MF are pretty much like Oda himself telling us the readers as to how & in what sequence will the EoS events will happen ->
"The man that Roger is waiting for.... at the very least Teach .... it's not you" WB to BB.
WB continues:- "Just as there are some who inherited Roger's will , someone will eventually do the same for Ace. You can sever bloodlines but their flames will never be extinguished."
"It has been passed down like that since Ancient Times....Someday one will arise who will challenge the world and will shoulder centuries of history." (All info about the Void Century is can be acquired after reading the Rio Poneglyphs on Laughtale where the treasure One Piece also is....... Roger , Oden , Rayleigh learnt the truth of the world after having arrived on Laughtale island .)
"Sengoku , you and the WG fear the great war that will come to this world one day ! I 'm not interested in that treasure (One Piece on Laughtale) , but when it's found , the whole world will be turned upside down. Someone will find it and that day will come....The One Piece does EXIST"
Meaning , Luffy & not BB is the man Roger is waiting for. Reaching Laughtale implies finding the One Piece treasure & also getting to know the truth about everything , about entirety of Void Century , will of d etc Truth about Everything . Then Luffy (Sun God Nika....also inheritor of Joyboy & Roger's will) will shoulder the history of centuries & start the great war that Sengoku and the WG fear.
Imu by himself can pretty easily be stronger than the 5 Gorosei combined considering how Yonko captains (Kaido , Big Mom were stronger than King+Queen+Jack & Katakuri+Smoothie+Cracker) that is the LEADER of the GROUP is always shown to be stronger than his top members combined. (eg. Doflamingo also being stronger than Vergo+Pika+Diamante+Trebol+....)
Now add Adult Versions of 7 Serpahims... Just S Hawk Adult Version alone has the potential to surpass even Dracule Mihawk.
Then add God's Knights + 5 Gorosei + Kong + Sengoku + Imu . A few Admiral/s might also still choose to be on WG's side.
BBP does not come close to ^^ this level of power lineup. They would be the strongest opponent Luffy will have to face to reach Laughtale but after that , it has to be the immortal literal king of the world for last 8 centuries , the winner of the Void Century 100 year war , the one who ultimately defeated the previous Joyboy :- that person is Imu.
"The man that Roger is waiting for.... at the very least Teach .... it's not you" WB to BB.
WB continues:- "Just as there are some who inherited Roger's will , someone will eventually do the same for Ace. You can sever bloodlines but their flames will never be extinguished."
"It has been passed down like that since Ancient Times....Someday one will arise who will challenge the world and will shoulder centuries of history." (All info about the Void Century is can be acquired after reading the Rio Poneglyphs on Laughtale where the treasure One Piece also is....... Roger , Oden , Rayleigh learnt the truth of the world after having arrived on Laughtale island .)
"Sengoku , you and the WG fear the great war that will come to this world one day ! I 'm not interested in that treasure (One Piece on Laughtale) , but when it's found , the whole world will be turned upside down. Someone will find it and that day will come....The One Piece does EXIST"
Meaning , Luffy & not BB is the man Roger is waiting for. Reaching Laughtale implies finding the One Piece treasure & also getting to know the truth about everything , about entirety of Void Century , will of d etc Truth about Everything . Then Luffy (Sun God Nika....also inheritor of Joyboy & Roger's will) will shoulder the history of centuries & start the great war that Sengoku and the WG fear.
Imu by himself can pretty easily be stronger than the 5 Gorosei combined considering how Yonko captains (Kaido , Big Mom were stronger than King+Queen+Jack & Katakuri+Smoothie+Cracker) that is the LEADER of the GROUP is always shown to be stronger than his top members combined. (eg. Doflamingo also being stronger than Vergo+Pika+Diamante+Trebol+....)
Now add Adult Versions of 7 Serpahims... Just S Hawk Adult Version alone has the potential to surpass even Dracule Mihawk.
Then add God's Knights + 5 Gorosei + Kong + Sengoku + Imu . A few Admiral/s might also still choose to be on WG's side.
BBP does not come close to ^^ this level of power lineup. They would be the strongest opponent Luffy will have to face to reach Laughtale but after that , it has to be the immortal literal king of the world for last 8 centuries , the winner of the Void Century 100 year war , the one who ultimately defeated the previous Joyboy :- that person is Imu.
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1- Imu has one of the Road Ponegliffs:
Shiryu: ''I bet he's with the Government. It wouldn't be surprising if they kept a stone or two for themselves... It'd be a surefire way of preventing any pirate from ever claiming the One Piece.''
Definitely make sense as Shiryu knows how the Government works, he gives a good explanation on what happened to the Road Ponegliff at Fishman Island.
It would be a retarded thing for Government to not take any precaution after Roger find the final island. Government stealing 1 one of the Road Ponegliffs means they need to defeat the Imu and Government to reach the final island.
2- Oda revealed Imu too soon (unlike Kaguya from Naruto) to be a disguised FV:
-Chapter 906
If Imu was suppose to be an opponent after finding OP, then revealing Imu as disguised FV this early makes no sense. Now its lost the surprise factor and the audience has no connection to Imu as a villain since Imu wasn't build up through the story.
Either build up a villain for sometime, or disguise him and make him show up when no one knew it existed (such as Kaguya from Naruto).
3- Imu and Saturn both hyped Teach:
It would make no sense Imu and Saturn hyping Teach but not take any role in the final battle vs them where Imu falls.
4- Rayleigh is already complaining that the secrets will be revealed before finding Laugh Tale:
''Don't be an ass and take it away from the youngsters''
Foreshadowing that the secrets can be learned while fighting against Imu.
If you look at the previous fights, Oda's style is showing the flashback during the middle of the battle not in previous island; Nico Robin Ohara flashback were in Enies Lobby not in Water 7, or Oden's flashback was in Wano not on Dressrosa or Zou. Oda will probably show the Imu flashbacks while fighting against him on Marijoa not on Laugh Tale.
5- Luffy will be hunted by literally everyone if he becomes the PK first, which will make Luffy's job impossible vs Imu:
''Thanks to that title (PK) , the whole world is after us.''
So the logical conclusion is that, Luffy and others should defeat the Government and Imu before someone becomes the PK.
Otherwise all the pirates who joined in OP race will attack PK, this will only make things easier for Imu and Government to win.
6- Oda said the series will be over when they find the One Piece:
''Aoyama: That's a secret, haha. I might decide to redraw the finale in the future… Hahaha.
Oda: I've always pictured what the final chapter of ‘ONE PIECE’ would be like, though from time to time, the situation surrounding it changes. It will still be over whenever the One Piece is found in the series, haha. Anyway, this next arc is the final one.
Aoyama: Seriously? Is it really going to end?
Oda: Yup, to me this is really the final arc.''
Shiryu: ''I bet he's with the Government. It wouldn't be surprising if they kept a stone or two for themselves... It'd be a surefire way of preventing any pirate from ever claiming the One Piece.''
Definitely make sense as Shiryu knows how the Government works, he gives a good explanation on what happened to the Road Ponegliff at Fishman Island.
It would be a retarded thing for Government to not take any precaution after Roger find the final island. Government stealing 1 one of the Road Ponegliffs means they need to defeat the Imu and Government to reach the final island.
2- Oda revealed Imu too soon (unlike Kaguya from Naruto) to be a disguised FV:
-Chapter 906
If Imu was suppose to be an opponent after finding OP, then revealing Imu as disguised FV this early makes no sense. Now its lost the surprise factor and the audience has no connection to Imu as a villain since Imu wasn't build up through the story.
Either build up a villain for sometime, or disguise him and make him show up when no one knew it existed (such as Kaguya from Naruto).
3- Imu and Saturn both hyped Teach:
It would make no sense Imu and Saturn hyping Teach but not take any role in the final battle vs them where Imu falls.
4- Rayleigh is already complaining that the secrets will be revealed before finding Laugh Tale:
''Don't be an ass and take it away from the youngsters''
Foreshadowing that the secrets can be learned while fighting against Imu.
If you look at the previous fights, Oda's style is showing the flashback during the middle of the battle not in previous island; Nico Robin Ohara flashback were in Enies Lobby not in Water 7, or Oden's flashback was in Wano not on Dressrosa or Zou. Oda will probably show the Imu flashbacks while fighting against him on Marijoa not on Laugh Tale.
5- Luffy will be hunted by literally everyone if he becomes the PK first, which will make Luffy's job impossible vs Imu:
''Thanks to that title (PK) , the whole world is after us.''
So the logical conclusion is that, Luffy and others should defeat the Government and Imu before someone becomes the PK.
Otherwise all the pirates who joined in OP race will attack PK, this will only make things easier for Imu and Government to win.
6- Oda said the series will be over when they find the One Piece:
''Aoyama: That's a secret, haha. I might decide to redraw the finale in the future… Hahaha.
Oda: I've always pictured what the final chapter of ‘ONE PIECE’ would be like, though from time to time, the situation surrounding it changes. It will still be over whenever the One Piece is found in the series, haha. Anyway, this next arc is the final one.
Aoyama: Seriously? Is it really going to end?
Oda: Yup, to me this is really the final arc.''
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