So after this chapter does anyone think zoro isn't a swordsman? Literally the next panel Zoro says he'd bite king agreeing he'd do anything to win as well. Op fandom is insane what's so hard to understand what a swordsman is. To king he'd disregard his swordsmanship if it didn't help him win a fight that doesn't mean he's not a swordsman but that he'd do anything to win including abandoning his sword if it was useless. Zoro agreed with king in the same sentiment for himself so if you don't think king is a swordsman now zoro isn't a swordsman. This rabbit hole is pointless to go down unless you think now 1000+ chapters later Zoro gains a new dream and throws away his swords.
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Fujitora is a swordsman
Shanks is likely one from what we seen
Big Mom isn't
Whitebeard isn't
Kizaru isn't
How I see it a swordsman is someone that lives through the sword and fighting style revolve around it.
Fujitora ALWAYS uses his sword, all of his devil fruit moves are channeled through his sword.
Big Mom isn't to me because even if some of her strongest moves are related to Napoleon, she uses other homies and her fists as much. It's more like an accesory.
Kizaru used a light sword against Rayleigh but in marineford he didn't use it once
Whitebeard bisento might be technically qualified as a sword but how did he attack when he was mad at Akainu over Ace's death? He used his fist enhanced with Gura Gura.
Be free to disagree but I feel Oda thinks in a similar way.
Shanks is likely one from what we seen
Big Mom isn't
Whitebeard isn't
Kizaru isn't
How I see it a swordsman is someone that lives through the sword and fighting style revolve around it.
Fujitora ALWAYS uses his sword, all of his devil fruit moves are channeled through his sword.
Big Mom isn't to me because even if some of her strongest moves are related to Napoleon, she uses other homies and her fists as much. It's more like an accesory.
Kizaru used a light sword against Rayleigh but in marineford he didn't use it once
Whitebeard bisento might be technically qualified as a sword but how did he attack when he was mad at Akainu over Ace's death? He used his fist enhanced with Gura Gura.
Be free to disagree but I feel Oda thinks in a similar way.
No he literally said greatest swordsman and strongest swordsman titles are all the same and both are true but Paul was denying the fact that Mihawk’s title is skill based title.
Which this chapter debunks him and your hypocrite mouth as well since King said being a swordsman = traditional forms and techniques and Mihawk’s title is literally ''swordsman'' based title nothing more.
Both you and your saviour Stephen Paul took an L.
Which this chapter debunks him and your hypocrite mouth as well since King said being a swordsman = traditional forms and techniques and Mihawk’s title is literally ''swordsman'' based title nothing more.
Both you and your saviour Stephen Paul took an L.
Then why is his fighting style called after his sword? Why does he never fight without his sword? Why is he based on Zatoichi? Why did Zoro not once mention that Fujitora isn’t a swordsman despite running into him… five separate times in Dressrosa?
King is excluded from being a swordsman by Zoro because he’s just a blood thirsty brute who is throwing in random spiked punches, has a sword catcher and doesn’t have anything resembling a set fighting style. Fujitora is nothing like that. It’s quite a specific thing to King, not something that applies to a host of swordsmen.
There’s more reason to think that Zoro can fight with three scythes instead of swords, or no swords at all, because at least we’ve actually seen that happen, than there is to think Fujitora can fight without his sword
King is excluded from being a swordsman by Zoro because he’s just a blood thirsty brute who is throwing in random spiked punches, has a sword catcher and doesn’t have anything resembling a set fighting style. Fujitora is nothing like that. It’s quite a specific thing to King, not something that applies to a host of swordsmen.
There’s more reason to think that Zoro can fight with three scythes instead of swords, or no swords at all, because at least we’ve actually seen that happen, than there is to think Fujitora can fight without his sword
story already showed zoro will go to any lenghts to win
swordsman or not
swordsman or not
because he got tired of Cabaji using "Circus tricks" and not actual swordsmanship.
So this is consistent, Zoro treats proper swordsmen as swordsmen and if people start doing weird stuff he does whatever
Mihawk’s title has nothing to do with skill lol, he is the strongest swordsman. Stronger than swordsman Shanks, weaker than not-swordsman Fujitora. What part of that is unclear?
It’s not lol. Raging Tiger is named after his gravity. His meteor strikes and such have nothing to do with swordsmanship.
Because Oda loves Zatoichi and wanted to plagiarize the character. Bunta Sugawara is famous for playing Yakuza bosses, does that mean Akainu is a mobster? Lol
Because this isn’t a manga about Zoro going from island to island identifying real swordsmen like Mihawk vs non-true swordsman like Fujitora. Fujitora not being a swordsman is just so obvious that Oda never saw the need to clarify him not being one. Does Oda need to have Zoro clarify that Katakuri isn’t a swordsman? Of course not. It’s obvious.
Fujitora literally does not fight with his sword Garp lol. He fights using gravity and meteors and such. His sword is irrelevant to that power and thus he is not a swordsman. You are making this much harder than it needs to be.
Relax, Zoro already buried the propaganda, no need to insist upon it lol.
It’s not lol. Raging Tiger is named after his gravity. His meteor strikes and such have nothing to do with swordsmanship.
Because Oda loves Zatoichi and wanted to plagiarize the character. Bunta Sugawara is famous for playing Yakuza bosses, does that mean Akainu is a mobster? Lol
Because this isn’t a manga about Zoro going from island to island identifying real swordsmen like Mihawk vs non-true swordsman like Fujitora. Fujitora not being a swordsman is just so obvious that Oda never saw the need to clarify him not being one. Does Oda need to have Zoro clarify that Katakuri isn’t a swordsman? Of course not. It’s obvious.
Fujitora literally does not fight with his sword Garp lol. He fights using gravity and meteors and such. His sword is irrelevant to that power and thus he is not a swordsman. You are making this much harder than it needs to be.
Relax, Zoro already buried the propaganda, no need to insist upon it lol.
Fujitora is a swordsman
Shanks is likely one from what we seen
Big Mom isn't
Whitebeard isn't
Kizaru isn't
How I see it a swordsman is someone that lives through the sword and fighting style revolve around it.
Fujitora ALWAYS uses his sword, all of his devil fruit moves are channeled through his sword.
Big Mom isn't to me because even if some of her strongest moves are related to Napoleon, she uses other homies and her fists as much. It's more like an accesory.
Kizaru used a light sword against Rayleigh but in marineford he didn't use it once
Whitebeard bisento might be technically qualified as a sword but how did he attack when he was mad at Akainu over Ace's death? He used his fist enhanced with Gura Gura.
Be free to disagree but I feel Oda thinks in a similar way.
Shanks is likely one from what we seen
Big Mom isn't
Whitebeard isn't
Kizaru isn't
How I see it a swordsman is someone that lives through the sword and fighting style revolve around it.
Fujitora ALWAYS uses his sword, all of his devil fruit moves are channeled through his sword.
Big Mom isn't to me because even if some of her strongest moves are related to Napoleon, she uses other homies and her fists as much. It's more like an accesory.
Kizaru used a light sword against Rayleigh but in marineford he didn't use it once
Whitebeard bisento might be technically qualified as a sword but how did he attack when he was mad at Akainu over Ace's death? He used his fist enhanced with Gura Gura.
Be free to disagree but I feel Oda thinks in a similar way.
But having another abilities outside of swordmanship doesn't discount one from being a swordman (Fujitora, Kaku, maybe Shanks but i don't know, maybe Roger?..)
