Get your head out your fucking ass, no one is saying anything about "confirmation". I am using YOUR argument against you. Your argument is that it is common sense that Big Mom isn't dead and Oda doesn't have to spoon feed us that Big Mom isn't dead. That was your argument! If it is so common sense that Oda doesn't have to spoonfeed us, then why did he say he she is dead this chapter? That goes against your argument, hence a contradiction because it was never common sense nor was it "spoonfeeding".
Reading isn't your strong suit is it? I never said Oda "doesn't have to spoonfeed us.". I said it's not my fault some people need to be spoonfed shit that should be common sense. And then the man went and spoonfed you, and you still misconstrued the intention of the panel.
Nobody is moving any goal post. You're just making up random shit that I never said.
Reading isn't your strong suit is it? I never said Oda "doesn't have to spoonfeed us.". I said it's not my fault some people need to be spoonfed shit that should be common sense. And then the man went and spoonfed you, and you still misconstrued the intention of the panel.
Nobody is moving any goal post. You're just making up random shit that I never said.
Your exact quote, "Not my fault you need to be spoonfed shit that should be common sense." meaning Big Mom not being dead is common sense hence you don't need to be spoonfed. And yet we literally got Oda telling us she is dead this chapter contradicting the "common sense" argument you made that she isn't dead. Oda didn't say "Big Mom is not dead", he said "Big Mom is dead" so he did not spoonfed your argument instead he spoonfed us the OPPOSITE of your argument hence the contradiction. You need to learn how to read and comprehend. Big Mom and Kaido situation was never common sense nor providing us basic information about them is "spoonfeeding".
Your exact quote, "Not my fault you need to be spoonfed shit that should be common sense." meaning Big Mom not being dead is common sense hence you don't need to be spoonfed. And yet we literally got Oda telling us she is dead this chapter contradicting the "common sense" argument you made that she isn't dead. Oda didn't say "Big Mom is not dead", he said "Big Mom is dead" so he did not spoonfed your argument instead he spoonfed us the OPPOSITE of your argument hence the contradiction. You need to learn how to read and comprehend. Big Mom and Kaido situation was never common sense nor providing us basic information about them is "spoonfeeding".
What chapter are you even reading? He did not say "Big Mom is dead".
Pudding: "If Momma is still alive, you won't be talking like that much longer!!"
^ Big Mom's own daughter does not believe she is dead.
Random Fodder who read a newspaper article: "We are fighting her killer."
Nothing in this exchange is any kind of spoon feeding that Big Mom is dead. There is no contradiction. It's an exchange between someone who doesn't believe the reports, and someone who does believe the reports.
Spoonfeeding that Big Mom is dead would be the narrator coming in after the fight, and being like "And in this Battle, Big Mom lost her life." Not having two characters with differing opinions having a conversation about the matter.
One believes she's not dead, one believes she is dead. How you believe thats spoon feeding that she IS DEAD, is beyond me. You're the one who needs to work on their reading comprehension.
What chapter are you even reading? He did not say "Big Mom is dead".
Pudding: "If Momma is still alive, you won't be talking like that much longer!!"
^ Big Mom's own daughter does not believe she is dead.
Random Fodder who read a newspaper article: "We are fighting her killer."
Nothing in this exchange is any kind of spoon feeding that Big Mom is dead. There is no contradiction. It's an exchange between someone who doesn't believe the reports, and someone who does believe the reports.
Spoonfeeding that Big Mom is dead would be the narrator coming in after the fight, and being like "And in this Battle, Big Mom lost her life." Not having two characters with differing opinions having a conversation about the matter.
One believes she's not dead, one believes she is dead. How you believe thats spoon feeding that she IS DEAD, is beyond me. You're the one who needs to work on their reading comprehension.
I don’t understand… Why do you like Big Meme so much that you refuse to move on from the denial stage of grief? You and your fellow super fanboys are delusional beyond belief
What chapter are you even reading? He did not say "Big Mom is dead".
Pudding: "If Momma is still alive, you won't be talking like that much longer!!"
^ Big Mom's own daughter does not believe she is dead.
Random Fodder who read a newspaper article: "We are fighting her killer."
Nothing in this exchange is any kind of spoon feeding that Big Mom is dead. There is no contradiction. It's an exchange between someone who doesn't believe the reports, and someone who does believe the reports.
Spoonfeeding that Big Mom is dead would be the narrator coming in after the fight, and being like "And in this Battle, Big Mom lost her life." Not having two characters with differing opinions having a conversation about the matter.
One believes she's not dead, one believes she is dead. How you believe thats spoon feeding that she IS DEAD, is beyond me. You're the one who needs to work on their reading comprehension.
My fucking god. You can't be this dense dude? You are either dense or purposely trying to create your own mental gymnastics to avoid being proven wrong. For the hundredth time, whether Big Mom is confirmed dead or not is TOTALLY IRREVELANT to the conversation. Her being confirmed dead has nothing to do with anything we are discussing. We are discussing YOUR comment stating that it is common sense that she is NOT dead. That is what we are discussing. "Common sense" has a very specific definition and what happened to Big Mom was NOT common sense. What happened to Kaido is NOT common sense. I am done talking about this because it is clear you have no idea what the topic is nor what you claimed.
I don’t understand… Why do you like Big Meme so much that you refuse to move on from the denial stage of grief? You and your fellow super fanboys are delusional beyond belief
It has nothing to do with "liking Big Mom's character." It's the fact that people who have been following this series for a long time, know better than to believe Oda is going to kill off any villain, let alone at the hands of secondary protagonists.
You guys are starting to become just as bad, if not worse than the ZKK crowd in thinking Oda actually has the balls to kill off a character like that, when he's done no such thing in well over 20 years.
My fucking god. You can't be this dense dude? You are either dense or purposely trying to create your own mental gymnastics to avoid being proven wrong. For the hundredth time, whether Big Mom is confirmed dead or not is TOTALLY IRREVELANT to the conversation. Her being confirmed dead has nothing to do with anything we are discussing. We are discussing YOUR comment stating that it is common sense that she is NOT dead. That is what we are discussing. "Common sense" has a very specific definition and what happened to Big Mom last chapter was NOT common sense. What happened to Kaido is NOT common sense. I am done talking about this because it is clear you have no idea what the topic is nor what you claimed.
I'm glad your done, because you make no damn sense. With every post of yours, it becomes more and more head scratching as to what the hell you're trying to say.
It doesn't matter if some random fodder called Law, Big Mom's killer. It's still common damn sense that the author who hasn't killed a single villain ever, didn't magically grow a pair and decide to pull the trigger on not one, but two villains at the same time. It completely goes against 20+ years of the narrative structure of One Piece.
Could Oda break the mold, and throw everyone for a loop, and actually kill his characters? Sure... But as of now there is no precedent for it, and going by the structure of the story for the past 20 years, it is common sense that they are not dead.
No Haki user was able to stop Doflamingos bird cage. Even an admiral who should be Laws current Level. Kaido was unable to use Haki to stop Luffy using awakening on him. Big mom was unable to stop Kids and Laws awakening.
To conclude for now:
Awakening > Haki > normal devilfruit use.
What happens if two Logia users fight each other without Haki? They would deal 0 damage to each other and leave. Haki is the only force to allow two Logia users to decide the fight without using awakening.
No Haki user was able to stop Doflamingos bird cage. Even an admiral who should be Laws current Level. Kaido was unable to use Haki to stop Luffy using awakening on him. Big mom was unable to stop Kids and Laws awakening.
To conclude for now:
Awakening > Haki > normal devilfruit use.
What happens if two Logia users fight each other without Haki? They would deal 0 damage to each other and leave. Haki is the only force to allow two Logia users to decide the fight without using awakening.
I guess Oda just wanted to fuck around with lady Trafy since everyone came back to normal after Law used his haki. Cool but doesn’t that make Doc Q’d DF totally useless on everyone once someone stronger than him (Doc Q) gets infected ?
Not useless, since Law's haki didnt stop it from happening, it reversed it. So it aint about haki stopping it, but knowikg how to use your haki for that purpose.
If the victim doesn't know how to unleash its haki or doesn't know that he can use it for that, it is pointless.
It is like having a gun amd not knowing how to use it.
He already was unconscious... so it aint like he was using a sort of defense for it. If you can guard a punch awake, it doesn't mean you can't be hit if you are sleeping.
So you knew Sugar powers won't work? So why did Oda write the plot of Law and Luffy being the ones that needed rescuing from Sugar? And why did Sugar powers work on all those haki users?
So you knew Hancock abilties wouldn't work on BB? So why did BB literally say her powers will work on him?
So you knew Law awakening wouldn't work on Big Mom? So why did Law's awakening work on Big Mom?
So you knew Puddings abilities wouldn't work on Sanji? So why did it work on Sanji?
So you knew Tama abilities wouldn't work on the beast pirates that had haki? So why did it work on the beast pirates that had Haki?
It is not about we know or not, but if the character knew. Luffy barely knew he could use haki, Luffy barely knew he could coat his attacks with CoC...
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