Powers & Abilities About Onigashima's crumbling

[Sadistic Senpai]

It's like they've never actually read a literary work and they only play videogames. Everytime I see stuff like "How much HP Kaido lost so far?" or "At what health % did Zoro scar Kaido?" I laugh my ass off; this isn't freaking Pokémon, for God's sake.

Lol… not only that but last time I checked…

- Luffy is on his last leg and barely standing (means his health is way worse than) Kaido’s power is starting to weaken
Lol

their calculation is absolute stupidity and pure agenda without even being smart about it

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Well I personally like Luffy's character. It has to be admitted tho, that there's no substantial reason to believe that meat which is Luffy's favorite food is more likely not healing him than viceversa considering milk is Brook's favorite drink and wields the power to heal his bones. Shonen don't necessarily blindly follow real life logics.

Both are extremely illogical in a similar way and I would still be skeptical of Luffy healing fully coz it's not necessarily related but there's a strong possibility either he did. And I think it's at least more probable than not.

Not really because of any other element more seriously, just this process.

There is manga evidence that Luffy’s health is worse than Kaido
Pure statement, what bullshit meat are you talking about
Yamato herself is confirming that

 

[Brendan Schaub]

I hope it's something like 50%+ Kaido vs 100 Luffy and that Zoro will have to jump in to help Luffy vanquish the guy aside from ZKK still occurring afterwards.

did you forget that Luffy told Yamato to go because he wants to fight Kaido by himself...?

 

[The White Crane]

Second nor Viz nor Japanese talk about Luffy being healed

Use your common sense, smh. Luffy healing by eating has been canon all series long and is literally one of his most unique traits.

Why should it not be canon now? You got something against it?

Luffy is really tired according to Yamato too, the same person who talked about the possibility of Kaido’s power weakening..

so in manga we have:
- Yamato questioning IF Kaido’s powers are weakening (not confirmed)
- Yamato too confirming that Luffy is tired and on his last legs while fighting Kaido

yet you reverse what is confirmed and say Luffy is fully healed while Kaido is weakened Lol

When people wanna push an agenda, it’s disgusting how much facts they will keep ignoring

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Lies

Na

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Luffy has been the only character next to Yamato who has taken the full brunt of Kaido's club and heavy named attacks to the face

eating food energizes him... but it doesn't help him recuperate from fatigue, wounds, and bruises.

I just hope we get to see a classic.. SUPREMELY OPULENT 1V1 STARE DOWN OF THESE 2 GOATS IN ONE CHAP

Viz is official translation, whether you like it or not. Don't start prefering fan translation now just because it fits your agenda.

 

[M944]

Use your common sense, smh. Luffy healing by eating has been canon all series long and is literally one of his most unique traits.

Why should it not be canon now? You got something against it?

He never healed by eating. He only recovered his stamina and energy. Never his health.

Viz is official translation, whether you like it or not. Don't start prefering fan translation now just because it fits your agenda.

Viz is also the translation who said Zoro isn't able to knock down Kaido with his strongest attacks. When an halfdead base Luffy could do it easily.

 

[Tai long]

even if kaido is weakened, luffy contributed the most

 

[The White Crane]

He never healed by eating. He only recovered his stamina and energy. Never his health.

Viz is also the translation who said Zoro isn't able to knock down Kaido with his strongest attacks. When an halfdead base Luffy could do it easily.

:laughmoji:

 

[M944]

:laughmoji:

You cope too much. Luffy never healed to 109% only with food

Pick your poison

 

[Finalbeta]

There is manga evidence that Luffy’s health is worse than Kaido
Pure statement, what bullshit meat are you talking about
Yamato herself is confirming that

No bullshit man, there's no visible evidence to ascribe Luffy to what you are claiming. If not at least we acknowledged Kaido is losing control over Onigashima and it's heavily unlikely it's due a stamina loss, cause he didn't seem to struggle so much stamina wise since he is a man who can fight for entire days.

 

[Ven437]

Plot twist: Momo will not stop Onigashima from falling down he will only slow it enough so that it doesn’t detonate anything or move it just enough so that it doesn’t hit the capital

Still dont see Momo generating Kaido level flame clouds to stop it completely or lift it somewhere else

 

[lee33]

Oda is getting ready to nerf Kaido which is why we saw that Yamato dialogue. Why the fuck is Kaido even caring an island for? Who the fuck knows. Looks like Oda only created that stupid island subplot in order to “justify” the nerf of Kaido.

 

[Finalbeta]

Oda is getting ready to nerf Kaido which is why we saw that Yamato dialogue. Why the fuck is Kaido even caring an island for? Who the fuck knows. Looks like Oda only created that stupid island subplot in order to “justify” the nerf of Kaido.

Indeed. Originally I thought he would probably waste almost no stamina for it but perhaps he did that cause he didn't want interferances 🤔

 

[The White Crane]

You cope too much. Luffy never healed to 109% only with food

Pick your poison

You're the one still coping about Luffy healing completely. Stop the projection.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Luffy is really tired according to Yamato too, the same person who talked about the possibility of Kaido’s power weakening..

so in manga we have:
- Yamato questioning IF Kaido’s powers are weakening (not confirmed)
- Yamato too confirming that Luffy is tired and on his last legs while fighting Kaido

yet you reverse what is confirmed and say Luffy is fully healed while Kaido is weakened Lol

When people wanna push an agenda, it’s disgusting how much facts they will keep ignoring

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Lies

Just a bunch of insecure lying hypocrites, don't mind them

 

[MonsterKaido]

Kaido's health bar is muuuuuuuuuch bigger than luffy's and he has taken wayyyy more attacks + luffy has eaten too

Number of attacks kaido has taken --

-Get cut by Kiku in the hand
-Get pierced together by Ashura,Kinemon,Denjiro in the stomach(Attack Sunachii)
-Crush with full force into the ground
-Get cut in mouth by Kinemon Foxfire Style Flamerend
-Take a attack from Nekomamushi´s Crimson Cat Dance
-Get cut by Kawamatsu´s River of sea
-Get pierced by Inuarashi´s Canine Scourge
-Get cut by Okiku´s Fallen Snow Scythes
-Get cut by Izo´s Slicing rounds
-Take his own boro breath by Raizo counter attack:Scrolling Jutsu Restoration
-Get cut by a combinate attack Paradise Totsuka(Group attack of Kinemon,Denjiro,Ashura and Inuarashi)
-Get pierced by Denjiro in the left body side
-Get punched by Luffy G3 Red Roc(Adv penetration haki)
- Take damage by Zoro´s Purgatory Onigiri
- Take damage by Killer´s Beheading Claws
- Get punched by Luffy G4 Kong gun
- Get squash by Kidßs Punk Vise
- Get attacked by Law Takt via throwing sharp stones at him
- Get punched by Luffy Kong Rifle
- Get hit by Kid Gibson slam
- Take Law´s Gammaknife who was pointed against his heart
- Tank Killer´s Sonic Scythe(internal damage)
- Get kicked by Luffy rio schneider
- Get punched by Luffy Kong Gatling
- Get cut by Zoro Tatsumaki
- Infection shoot by Law
-Get a hit by Law infection shoot
-Get cut by Zoro adv CoC Ashura
-Get punched by Luffy adv CoC+adv CoA in stomach
-Get punched uppercut by Luffy adv CoC+adv CoA
-Tank Yamato adv CoC Thunder bague
-Tank Yamato Himoro Giri
-Get cut by Yamato slice attack
-Get punched by Luffy Snakeman adv CoC Jet Culverin
-In combo he also tank Yamato adv CoC White Snake Rush who attack in a combo with Luffy.
--Adv coc punch
--Adv coa g3 attack

So far Kaido tank over 37 Attacks(take in mind Sunachii was a combo attack by all Scabbards, same as a Kong Gatling who hit him multiple times)+(Lot of adv CoC attacks).

Attacks luffy has taken

--10% Thunder Bagua
--Boro Breath
--Ragnarok
--Club attack which luffy blocked
--An attack which defeated him second time

 

[Punk Rotten]

It's like they've never actually read a literary work and they only play videogames. Everytime I see stuff like "How much HP Kaido lost so far?" or "At what health % did Zoro scar Kaido?" I laugh my ass off; this isn't freaking Pokémon, for God's sake.

Yeah...the disillusion on this Zoro stanbase sometimes is comical. Being blunt about it because it plagues this forum

 

[Date]

Believe Onigashima falling in the Flower Capital will be what will make Wano go to sealevel and be open like Oden Said.

Pehaps if Tenguyama is really Sukiyaki we will got some more info on the formation of Wano as a fortress Void Century and other core info to the void century history, as he will know things from the Poneglyph in Wano at least. Or this info could come from Toki ia she is the shadow

 

[Finalbeta]

Kaido's health bar is muuuuuuuuuch bigger than luffy's and he has taken wayyyy more attacks + luffy has eaten too

Number of attacks kaido has taken --

-Get cut by Kiku in the hand
-Get pierced together by Ashura,Kinemon,Denjiro in the stomach(Attack Sunachii)
-Crush with full force into the ground
-Get cut in mouth by Kinemon Foxfire Style Flamerend
-Take a attack from Nekomamushi´s Crimson Cat Dance
-Get cut by Kawamatsu´s River of sea
-Get pierced by Inuarashi´s Canine Scourge
-Get cut by Okiku´s Fallen Snow Scythes
-Get cut by Izo´s Slicing rounds
-Take his own boro breath by Raizo counter attack:Scrolling Jutsu Restoration
-Get cut by a combinate attack Paradise Totsuka(Group attack of Kinemon,Denjiro,Ashura and Inuarashi)
-Get pierced by Denjiro in the left body side
-Get punched by Luffy G3 Red Roc(Adv penetration haki)
- Take damage by Zoro´s Purgatory Onigiri
- Take damage by Killer´s Beheading Claws
- Get punched by Luffy G4 Kong gun
- Get squash by Kidßs Punk Vise
- Get attacked by Law Takt via throwing sharp stones at him
- Get punched by Luffy Kong Rifle
- Get hit by Kid Gibson slam
- Take Law´s Gammaknife who was pointed against his heart
- Tank Killer´s Sonic Scythe(internal damage)
- Get kicked by Luffy rio schneider
- Get punched by Luffy Kong Gatling
- Get cut by Zoro Tatsumaki
- Infection shoot by Law
-Get a hit by Law infection shoot
-Get cut by Zoro adv CoC Ashura
-Get punched by Luffy adv CoC+adv CoA in stomach
-Get punched uppercut by Luffy adv CoC+adv CoA
-Tank Yamato adv CoC Thunder bague
-Tank Yamato Himoro Giri
-Get cut by Yamato slice attack
-Get punched by Luffy Snakeman adv CoC Jet Culverin
-In combo he also tank Yamato adv CoC White Snake Rush who attack in a combo with Luffy.
--Adv coc punch
--Adv coa g3 attack

So far Kaido tank over 37 Attacks(take in mind Sunachii was a combo attack by all Scabbards, same as a Kong Gatling who hit him multiple times)+(Lot of adv CoC attacks).

Attacks luffy has taken

--10% Thunder Bagua
--Boro Breath
--Ragnarok
--Club attack which luffy blocked
--An attack which defeated him second time

Impressive but when we look at it some of these guys' AP is meant to be simply ridiculous bro.

Zoro's cut alone inflicted massively more damage than any of the minor ones combined.

 

[M944]

Kaido's health bar is muuuuuuuuuch bigger than luffy's and he has taken wayyyy more attacks + luffy has eaten too

Number of attacks kaido has taken --

-Get cut by Kiku in the hand
-Get pierced together by Ashura,Kinemon,Denjiro in the stomach(Attack Sunachii)
-Crush with full force into the ground
-Get cut in mouth by Kinemon Foxfire Style Flamerend
-Take a attack from Nekomamushi´s Crimson Cat Dance
-Get cut by Kawamatsu´s River of sea
-Get pierced by Inuarashi´s Canine Scourge
-Get cut by Okiku´s Fallen Snow Scythes
-Get cut by Izo´s Slicing rounds
-Take his own boro breath by Raizo counter attack:Scrolling Jutsu Restoration
-Get cut by a combinate attack Paradise Totsuka(Group attack of Kinemon,Denjiro,Ashura and Inuarashi)
-Get pierced by Denjiro in the left body side
-Get punched by Luffy G3 Red Roc(Adv penetration haki)
- Take damage by Zoro´s Purgatory Onigiri
- Take damage by Killer´s Beheading Claws
- Get punched by Luffy G4 Kong gun
- Get squash by Kidßs Punk Vise
- Get attacked by Law Takt via throwing sharp stones at him
- Get punched by Luffy Kong Rifle
- Get hit by Kid Gibson slam
- Take Law´s Gammaknife who was pointed against his heart
- Tank Killer´s Sonic Scythe(internal damage)
- Get kicked by Luffy rio schneider
- Get punched by Luffy Kong Gatling
- Get cut by Zoro Tatsumaki
- Infection shoot by Law
-Get a hit by Law infection shoot
-Get cut by Zoro adv CoC Ashura
-Get punched by Luffy adv CoC+adv CoA in stomach
-Get punched uppercut by Luffy adv CoC+adv CoA
-Tank Yamato adv CoC Thunder bague
-Tank Yamato Himoro Giri
-Get cut by Yamato slice attack
-Get punched by Luffy Snakeman adv CoC Jet Culverin
-In combo he also tank Yamato adv CoC White Snake Rush who attack in a combo with Luffy.
--Adv coc punch
--Adv coa g3 attack

So far Kaido tank over 37 Attacks(take in mind Sunachii was a combo attack by all Scabbards, same as a Kong Gatling who hit him multiple times)+(Lot of adv CoC attacks).

Attacks luffy has taken

--10% Thunder Bagua
--Boro Breath
--Ragnarok
--Club attack which luffy blocked
--An attack which defeated him second time

First Luffy can't heal with food only that was the point of having a doctor in the crew.
Second Luffy only took attacks from a Top Tier. You can't laugh for this even more when a single strike from Oden put Kaido close to death.
Kaido have one of the best endurance and durability and is really strong. Luffy will probably not be stronger than a 100% Kaido at EOW (mainly due to Luffy's time limits) but comparing the attack they took is dumb.

You better keep your energy for people who thinks Zoro's ashura and scabbards are the main reason Kaido is at 20% HP

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Who here thinks Kaido can fight seriously against a Top Tier and Lift Onigashima at the same time ?

 

[Finalbeta]

Even cataloguing Luffy as anything more than a mid to high diff fight for Kaido in a fresh 1v1 is excessive for now, let alone anything further.

 

[m0nst3Rx]

thread creator still coping that luffy is fighting nerfed kaido

10HP Wounded / nerfed / exhausted kaido vs 100HP Fresh Luffy who just rest and ate his magic meat

Still condom struggling to land a one hit 1v1 that Zoro capable to do with Broken bones