Powers & Abilities ACoC strength level

[Roo]

Yet you guys love to use terms such as “stronger haki”

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Yet you guys love to use terms such as “stronger haki”

That can still be a thing lol. It doesn't contradict the post

 

[Roo]

That can still be a thing lol. It doesn't contradict the post

It does, ray literally said there’s no way to train your haki

Your haki is as strong as you are, “stronger haki” is just a redundant way of saying a character is stronger

 

[Levi]

"ACoC" is a fanmade term. Oda has never used this. There is only CoC and different applications of CoC:

- CoC blasts -> What people call "fodder control"
- CoC coating -> Using the "flow" haki with CoC
- CoC observation killing -> What Shanks did in Film Red

The fact that Zoro can do CoC coating and he's never done fodder control, nor even knows that he has it, shows "ACoC" is not really a thing.

We're going to see countless applications of CoC with Shanks, Gaban, etc. CoC Coating is just one application of CoC.

Why do you keep lying about zoro not knocking out fodder?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

It does, ray literally said there’s no way to train your haki

Your haki is as strong as you are, “stronger haki” is just a redundant way of saying a character is stronger

There's examples of characters having equal Haki and one being stronger lol
It's not that simple

 

[Roo]

There's examples of characters having equal Haki and one being stronger lol
It's not that simple

What are those examples again? Clashing doesn’t mean equal

 

[hedera__helix]

"ACoC" is a fanmade term. Oda has never used this. There is only CoC and different applications of CoC:

- CoC blasts -> What people call "fodder control"
- CoC coating -> Using the "flow" haki with CoC
- CoC observation killing -> What Shanks did in Film Red

The fact that Zoro can do CoC coating and he's never done fodder control, nor even knows that he has it, shows "ACoC" is not really a thing.

We're going to see countless applications of CoC with Shanks, Gaban, etc. CoC Coating is just one application of CoC.

Stop your nonsensical yapping and just deal with the fact that Doflamingo is a pathetic nobody who will never be able to use ACoC

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

What are those examples again? Clashing doesn’t mean equal

Shanks and Joyboy being said to have relative Haki even though Joyboy is obviously stronger

 

[Roo]

Shanks and Joyboy being said to have relative Haki even though Joyboy is obviously stronger

You are under assumption that Shanks is not as strong as joyboy. He’s literally the child of destiny

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

You are under assumption that Shanks is not as strong as joyboy. He’s literally the child of destiny

He "was" the child of destiny. He gave that role up to Luffy once he ate the fruit he was supposed to use to liberate the world.

 

[sanjikun]

Why do you keep lying about zoro not knocking out fodder?

Did you read the last chapter? I'm not talking about conqueror's leaking. I'm talking about conscious crowd control.

Conqueror's leaking is done without intention as a result of a CoC user in the middle of a battle

How could Zoro do this, when he's not even aware he has CoC?

Stop your nonsensical yapping and just deal with the fact that Doflamingo is a pathetic nobody who will never be able to use ACoC

He will never be able to use ACoC, because ACoC is a made up fan term that doesn't exist in One Piece.

Some of you make up fake terms and feats to go with it, and convince yourselves it's canon.

 

[Roo]

He "was" the child of destiny. He gave that role up to Luffy once he ate the fruit he was supposed to use to liberate the world.

But he was heralded as the child of destiny by his literal pirate king crew

Oda even went as far as saying he’s the only guy capable of imitating Roger’s moves from the crew.. as a fucking child. Neither Ray nor Gaban could.

Shanks is clearly the peak of what piracy is supposed to be, and I don’t get why people to this day keep doubting the self insert

 

[soupongo]

Shanks is clearly the peak of what piracy is supposed to be, and I don’t get why people to this day keep doubting the self insert

In what sense? Shanks himself still wants to find the OP to become PK, implying he's not satisfied with his current standing

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

But he was heralded as the child of destiny by his literal pirate king crew

Oda even went as far as saying he’s the only guy capable of imitating Roger’s moves from the crew.. as a fucking child. Neither Ray nor Gaban could.

Shanks is clearly the peak of what piracy is supposed to be, and I don’t get why people to this day keep doubting the self insert

Because he was the one who they planned to eat the fruit. Luffy threw them a curve ball by eating it instead. He's the real child of destiny now, not Shanks.

 

[Roo]

In what sense? Shanks himself still wants to find the OP to become PK, implying he's not satisfied with his current standing

Shanks waiting till Luffy awakened to make his moves, clearly implying a hidden purpose

Because he was the one who they planned to eat the fruit. Luffy threw them a curve ball by eating it instead. He's the real child of destiny now, not Shanks.

Shanks had the fruit for months and never ate it. All right now points to Shanks not even planning to eat the fruit

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Shanks waiting till Luffy awakened to make his moves, clearly implying a hidden purpose



Shanks had the fruit for months and never ate it. All right now points to Shanks not even planning to eat the fruit

 

[soupongo]

Shanks waiting till Luffy awakened to make his moves, clearly implying a hidden purpose



Shanks had the fruit for months and never ate it. All right now points to Shanks not even planning to eat the fruit

Unless the Nika fruit is directly needed to access the OP, it would not imply a hidden purpose of Shanks wanting to be pirate king but never achieving it

 

[Roo]

Sorry forgot I was talking to a guy who doesn’t read one piece

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Unless the Nika fruit is directly needed to access the OP, it would not imply a hidden purpose of Shanks wanting to be pirate king but never achieving it

Shanks reading the news with Luffy’s new form, then declaring he wants to find the one piece clearly implies it is connected to his moves

I mean I don’t get what more do you want from Oda. It is as clear as day

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Sorry forgot I was talking to a guy who doesn’t read one piece

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Shanks reading the news with Luffy’s new form, then declaring he wants to find the one piece clearly implies it is connected to his moves

I mean I don’t get what more do you want from Oda. It is as clear as day

I'd like to assume he just means to fight Luffy for it and "train" him in a way.

 

[MonsterKaido]

But he was heralded as the child of destiny by his literal pirate king crew

Oda even went as far as saying he’s the only guy capable of imitating Roger’s moves from the crew.. as a fucking child. Neither Ray nor Gaban could.

Shanks is clearly the peak of what piracy is supposed to be, and I don’t get why people to this day keep doubting the self insert

Joyboy mid diff shanks. Not only will JB have stronger haki , he has busted nika DF on top of that.