Current Events Alright let me get this straight when it comes to Luffy, Zoro, Kizaru, and Saturn

Every road lead to luffy vs saturne. The Gorosei want the mother flame a weapons of absolute destruction that will only increase the world gouverment power and ability to cause chaos which is against everything vegapunk stand for allong killing the later for void century research the reason all this marine operation was started in the first place. Compared to that kizaru and sentomaru plot is insignifiant who are both leading the army of both faction with the main goal of protecting vegapunk and saturne respectively. Luffy being the boss of the three party here and vegapunks freind. Oda made luffy visit all vegapunks work for a reason and discover the good part of the scientist now all that remain to do is vegapunk telling luffy to help him stop saturne who want to take mother flame and beg him allong bonney being among the main reason her father lost his memory and was mistraited for luffy to get very angry and start running after saturne in the island to stop him to get the mother flame leading to a fight.
 
Garp did all of it with his own strength.[/QUOTE]
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Every road lead to luffy vs saturne. The Gorosei want the mother flame a weapons of absolute destruction that will only increase the world gouverment power and ability to cause chaos which is against everything vegapunk stand for allong killing the later for void century research the reason all this marine operation was started in the first place. Compared to that kizaru and sentomaru plot is insignifiant who are both leading the army of both faction with the main goal of protecting vegapunk and saturne respectively. Luffy being the boss of the three party here and vegapunks freind. Oda made luffy visit all vegapunks work for a reason and discover the good part of the scientist now all that remain to do is vegapunk telling luffy to help him stop saturne who want to take mother flame and beg him allong bonney being among the main reason her father lost his memory and was mistraited for luffy to get very angry and start running after saturne in the island to stop him to get the mother flame leading to a fight.
All road leads to Luffy punchin the Celestial Saturn
Thats the shocking incident
 
Kuma caused the crews break up not kizaru.

Yes the swordsman right hand saved ZORO form kizaru
Kizaru who then went on to match up with Marco Ray Ben Beckman

The admiral luffy has met he has by far the least interactions with.

So did mihawk luffy ain't fighting him either
If Zoro couldn't even get the parallel on Wano for Ryuma, what makes you think he's gonna get it for Rayleigh, who Oda specifically chose to mentor Luffy?
 
How do u figure with KoH and ashura??? Don’t get me wrong I love me some Rayleigh but how can zoro not replicate what Rayleigh did pre timeskip now??? Roof top zoro clashed with kaido to save his captain u don’t think he could realistically clash with Kizaru multiple times?
Koh and Asura as big of a boost they are, the downside is bad. Asura is a singular attack and koh requires 100% haki output continuously, which for now we can't confirm if zoro can do it for prolonged time.

Rayleigh even now in his old age portrays a huge threat like we have seen at sabaody and amazon lily. We cant say the same for zoro in those same situations. Its not about stats/feats, its simply about clout and portrayal within verse.

Admirals at every point have been shown to shit on commanders. And as much i like zoro and want to deny it, he still counts as a commander

And honestly after wano, you can tell oda doesn't give a shit about anyone aside from Luffy. He does his best to keep the others in luffy's shadow.
 
Listen, it's easy actually. Nobody says Kizaru and Zoro can't clash, I'm sure they will but as seen with Doffy, then Katakuri, then Kaido if there's a 1v1 boss fight to be fought in an arc, Luffy is the one that's going to fight it and that's just reality.

Saturn literally doesn't want anyone to know he's here so how exactly does he transition from hiding into fist fighting with Luffy with his shirt ripped off in a span of 3 chapters ?

So if Zoro and Kizaru have an all out fight in a couple chapters, is Luffy fighting Goatbeard ? Or waiting till Saturn comes ?
Luffy will keep eating, while watching his RHM high diffing an Admiral.
Just like how Luffy and his gang eating and didn't bother to help when Greenbull was fighting Momo and Scrubbards.

The Admiral is not worthy fighting Luffy anymore, he is above the corporate slaves' paycheck. The day when Admirals are viewed as huge threats, are long gone.
 
Luffy will keep eating, while watching his RHM high diffing an Admiral.
Just like how Luffy and his gang eating and didn't bother to help when Greenbull was fighting Momo and Scrubbards.

The Admiral is not worthy fighting Luffy anymore, he is above the corporate slaves' paycheck. The day when Admirals are viewed as huge threats, are long gone.
Only admiral luffy will go all out and focus is Akainu
 
Luffy who usually takes on the main villain and the strongest character in the arc.

Was the first one to defeat a Warlord.

And also the first one to defeat a Yonko.

Says he wants to get stronger than all of them which includes Admiral Kizaru.

And then there is also this.

Now after all this build up and again with Luffy being the first one to defeat a Warlord and a Yonko, somehow according to a certain group of people he won't be the first one to defeat an Admiral.:choppawhat:

Instead it will go to one of his crew members.:nicagesmile:

We know that one of Zoro's next major fight is going to be against Shiryu.

Now it makes no sense for Zoro to go from King to suddenly Kizaru and then to Shiryu unless you somehow think Shiryu is stronger than an Admiral.:milaugh:

"But but Saturn is the main villain and is stronger than Kizaru."

First things first, both Kizaru and Saturn are the main villains of the Egghead arc not just only Saturn(Or at the very least Kizaru will be the main villain while Saturn is the Secondary Villain). Yes I do believe Saturn will be a very strong fighter but as of right now there is no proof that he is stronger than an Admiral.

Also there is a good chance that many people don't know about Saturn's powers, so in order for him to not expose himself he might try to avoid fighting during the battle.

"But what if Saturn does fight then who will fight him."

If Saturn does fight, then I do believe that maybe Vegapunk himself might fight him. Vegapunk is the The Smartest Man in the World and is also the number one Scientist.

Don't forget that Saturn is the Warrior God of Defense Science.

Just like in Wano where we had Kid and Law two allies of Luffy defeat Big Mom, a similar thing could happen at Egghead. Vegapunk an ally of Luffy fighting and maybe even defeating Saturn.

"But the Vice Admirals are weak! They are no match for Zoro."

Who says they are all weak? Each of them can vary in strength, also two of the Vice Admirals Gion and Chaton were both considered as a candidate to become one of the new Admirals before Fujitora and Green Bull were chosen.

So no not all the Vice Admirals are weak.

Lastly this doesn't really mean much but remember that the name Kizaru means Yellow Monkey.:wellwell:

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While I agree with you that Zoro needs to face Shiryu before Kizaru (who gives Zoro's admiral opponent vibes). So impossible to expect a W from Zoro here. And it's really a few people who think like that.

I don't think an admiral gonna fall in this arc. But clashes and even Luffy looking like he has the upper hand is really possible.
Saturn might get defeated also, and as you said it will be the first Gorosei.
 
Luffy will keep eating, while watching his RHM high diffing an Admiral.
Just like how Luffy and his gang eating and didn't bother to help when Greenbull was fighting Momo and Scrubbards.

The Admiral is not worthy fighting Luffy anymore, he is above the corporate slaves' paycheck. The day when Admirals are viewed as huge threats, are long gone.
Your local stores will run out of tissue supplies if you continue crying this hard.
 
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