Anime confirms enma is power up

[Robin swan]

1 on the Roof, Zoro gave enma enough (unknowingly) or rather allowed her to take enough. You remember that after the first hit from the kiloer on kaido, Zoro said that it was stronger to smoke enma. On the roof, he let Enma take as much as she needed. In the battle with King, he gave everything to the Blades HIMSELF. SAM. not just for one enma, but all haki three blades. That's the point. Roof =only for enma. In 1033 =ALL three blades. Therefore, its power has increased. Because he overcame his fear, he awakened acoc

No Zoro didn't give enma enough haki. Zoro was controlling how much haki enma was drawing. Just because you keep saying something doesn't mean it's right. How could Zoro by his admission be using enma wrong but also using enma right giving it enough haki? You are saying the manga is wrong about itself.

No the haki enma draws always went for all swords as enma does not control how haki is used zoro does. It's just the aura effect was only on enma because it's enma's ability not the other swords or zoro's. Why would the other swords be lighting up if they are not drawing haki? And this does not explain why he had such a huge haki boost vs king. Even if we assume what you are saying is true and haki was only for 1 sword (enma) why didn't that sword have green aura haki like vs king or show anything close to the amount of haki that could kill Zoro like vs king? You can't argue this because Zoro himself said it was everything he had on the rooftop and we know it was not nearly as strong of CoA as vs king. The only difference between the 2 moments is that Zoro stopped trying to control enma and let it keep drawing haki vs king while he was still trying to control enma on the rooftop. Zoro's strong green aura CoA is because of enma and it's why it's a pu as it allows Zoro to use stronger CoA. You can't argue against not only the manga but zoro's own actions and words. You are making up a new story at this point

 

[Killerj]

Its not a power up, its a nerf

 

[Artem]

Прочитав эту ветку, я понял, что некоторые люди на этой доске не понимают ни поэзии, ни образов, ни фигур речи. Неспособность некоторых из вас понять абстрактную концепцию сбивает с толку.

В любом случае, по теме, вы можете сколько угодно оскорблять меня, использовать какие угодно уничижительные термины, это не изменит того факта, что:

- Подвиги Зоро на крыше взяты из понерфленного Зоро.
-Зоро сам разблокирует AdvCoC
-Энма - это не усиление, а тренировочный инструмент.

И ты знаешь, и я знаю, и все знают, что эти истины всегда причинят тебе боль.

Добрый день господа :брутей:

Вы, ребята, лучше будьте готовы к эпизоду 1060 - эпизод enma

No Zoro didn't give enma enough haki. Zoro was controlling how much haki enma was drawing. Just because you keep saying something doesn't mean it's right. How could Zoro by his admission be using enma wrong but also using enma right giving it enough haki? You are saying the manga is wrong about itself.

No the haki enma draws always went for all swords as enma does not control how haki is used zoro does. It's just the aura effect was only on enma because it's enma's ability not the other swords or zoro's. Why would the other swords be lighting up if they are not drawing haki? And this does not explain why he had such a huge haki boost vs king. Even if we assume what you are saying is true and haki was only for 1 sword (enma) why didn't that sword have green aura haki like vs king or show anything close to the amount of haki that could kill Zoro like vs king? You can't argue this because Zoro himself said it was everything he had on the rooftop and we know it was not nearly as strong of CoA as vs king. The only difference between the 2 moments is that Zoro stopped trying to control enma and let it keep drawing haki vs king while he was still trying to control enma on the rooftop. Zoro's strong green aura CoA is because of enma and it's why it's a pu as it allows Zoro to use stronger CoA. You can't argue against not only the manga but zoro's own actions and words. You are making up a new story at this point

you tell me that I'm inventing something, but you're inventing a whole bunch of hedcanon yourself. Let's start with the fact that when Enma pulled a crazy amount of haki that the hand literally dried up, there was no green aura (although enma literally pulled a crazy amount). You have already decided that the power of haki varies in colors, lol. Like green >Purple? Lol. The only criterion shown in the manga related to enma's insubordination is a dry hand, everything. It is clear to me as day that Zoro did not limit enma on the roof (as he himself indirectly stated when he noted that he would promote her). The whole problem is that Zoro tried to restrain her 90% of the time (except for a few episodes in a fight with kaido). You just came up with the idea that touching enma opens access to a special haki + to an additional volume of haki. You literally invented your manga. I will believe the words of the blacksmith who just said that Emma takes more than necessary, that's all. For me, there are three states of Zoro in vano. 1 Zoro does not allow to pull haki, which makes enma angry and "hinders him" 2 Zoro allows Enma to take the necessary amount (on the roof he allowed it in several attacks, but in general he still did not understand the essence of the sword at that time). 3 Awareness of enma's desire not to restrain haki and infusion of everything that is in all blades. For me, enma is a "teacher" who showed Zoro how it should be, and not a necessary criterion for the regime of the King of Hell. At the moment, your opinion on the fact that enma acts as a removed plug in the bathroom with haki is a hedkanon.

 

[Robin swan]

you tell me that I'm inventing something, but you're inventing a whole bunch of hedcanon yourself. Let's start with the fact that when Enma pulled a crazy amount of haki that the hand literally dried up, there was no green aura (although enma literally pulled a crazy amount). You have already decided that the power of haki varies in colors, lol. Like green >Purple? Lol. The only criterion shown in the manga related to enma's insubordination is a dry hand, everything. It is clear to me as day that Zoro did not limit enma on the roof (as he himself indirectly stated when he noted that he would promote her). The whole problem is that Zoro tried to restrain her 90% of the time (except for a few episodes in a fight with kaido). You just came up with the idea that touching enma opens access to a special haki + to an additional volume of haki. You literally invented your manga. I will believe the words of the blacksmith who just said that Emma takes more than necessary, that's all. For me, there are three states of Zoro in vano. 1 Zoro does not allow to pull haki, which makes enma angry and "hinders him" 2 Zoro allows Enma to take the necessary amount (on the roof he allowed it in several attacks, but in general he still did not understand the essence of the sword at that time). 3 Awareness of enma's desire not to restrain haki and infusion of everything that is in all blades. For me, enma is a "teacher" who showed Zoro how it should be, and not a necessary criterion for the regime of the King of Hell. At the moment, your opinion on the fact that enma acts as a removed plug in the bathroom with haki is a hedkanon.

Again enma pulled so much haki it'd kill Zoro. Zoro is not weak nor has weak haki by any standard yet the amount enma was pulling out would kill him had he kept doing it. No other character ever has died from using their haki and the only ones that died from haki use was caused by enma. Do you really not understand how strong the haki has to be to kill zoro from use and yea Green aura is stronger than that purple smoke by how it was introduced as being the result of Zoro understanding enma. Imagine finally using the sword right but turns out using it wrong was actually stronger how much sense does that make to you? Again the shriveled effect is enma taking a lot of haki when Zoro wasn't trying to use haki. Essentially enma is forcing Zoro to use haki without him doing it himself making a negative effect on his body. Enma is special in that it goes against natural order and can make even someone with no haki mastery use haki by forcing but the cost of it is shriveling into a husk.

I didn't make up anything. Everything I said is from the manga while you are saying Zoro is wrong about himself and his abilities yet won't say how Zoro is wrong. You have still not shown why Zoro going all out by his words and did not have life threatening green haki coming out of him on the rooftop yet vs king it is. Why is it that you can never stay on point and either bring up irrelevant stuff to a pu or keep repeating a wrong point that contradicts the manga and what you say. Remember Zoro gave enma enough haki yet he at the same time wasn't using enma right which is to give enma enough haki? The basis of your argument is wrong because you aren't trying to understand the manga but trying to look at it as " oh zoro's so strong he doesn't need his sword for a pu" when it's clear he needs enma which he himself said would make him stronger ( a pu). The drawing effect is the pu for Zoro ulwho can now access stronger haki.

You do not matter it's what the manga shown. Enma is not a teacher. Zoro doesn't need to be told to go all out as literally he did that against kaido. His problem was he didn't understand how to properly use enma. To properly use enma you have to withstand it drawing the haki it wants and not try to control it. That's the only way enma will let you be it's master. Zoro understood this and gained koh by unlocking adcoc and green aura CoA. Zoro can't use koh or green aura CoA unless enma is there to over draw his haki. Your fan fic is irrelevant to the story. How can you think you are not making stuff up when you directly contradict yourself and they manga yet still read the manga from your prospective instead of as what the manga is showing. Neither of our perspectives matter when talking about manga facts. By Zoro saying enma makes him stronger means enma is a pu.

 

[Zolo]

Guys I have bad news.... Mihawk is fraud

 

[Rukusho]

Guys I have bad news.... Mihawk is fraud

 

[Artem]

Опять энма натянула столько хаки, что убила бы Зоро. Зоро не слаб и не имеет слабого хаки ни по каким меркам, но количество вытягиваемой энмы убило бы его, если бы он продолжал это делать. Ни один другой персонаж никогда не умирал от использования своего хаки, и единственные, кто умер от использования хаки, были вызваны энмой. Вы действительно не понимаете, насколько сильным должен быть хаки, чтобы убить Зоро от использования, и да, Зеленая аура сильнее, чем этот фиолетовый дым, потому что она была представлена как результат понимания Зоро эммы. Представьте себе, наконец, правильное использование меча, но оказалось, что неправильное использование на самом деле сильнее, какой смысл это имеет для вас? Опять же, сморщенный эффект — это энма, принимающая много хаки, когда Зоро не пытался использовать хаки. По сути, энма заставляет Зоро использовать хаки без того, чтобы он делал это сам, оказывая негативное влияние на его тело. Энма уникальна тем, что она идет вразрез с естественным порядком и может заставить даже того, у кого нет мастерства хаки, использовать хаки путем принуждения, но цена этого съеживается до шелухи.

Я ничего не придумал. Все, что я сказал, взято из манги, в то время как вы говорите, что Зоро ошибается в отношении себя и своих способностей, но не говорите, насколько Зоро ошибается. Вы до сих пор не показали, почему Зоро выкладывался изо всех сил своими словами, и у него не было опасного для жизни зеленого хаки, исходящего от него на крыше, но это против короля. Почему вы никогда не можете оставаться на месте и либо поднимаете ненужные вещи до пу, либо продолжаете повторять неправильный момент, который противоречит манге и тому, что вы говорите. Помните, Зоро дал эмме достаточно хаки, но в то же время он не использовал эмму правильно, то есть дал энме достаточно хаки? Основа вашего аргумента неверна, потому что вы не пытаетесь понять мангу, а пытаетесь смотреть на нее как на «о, Зоро такой сильный, что ему не нужен меч для пу», когда это не так. Ясно, что ему нужна эмма, которая, как он сам сказал, сделает его сильнее (пу). Эффект рисования — это пу для Зоро Уль, который теперь может получить доступ к более сильному хаки.

Вы не имеете значения, это то, что показано в манге. Энма не учитель. Зоро не нужно говорить изо всех сил, поскольку буквально он сделал это против кайдо. Его проблема заключалась в том, что он не понимал, как правильно использовать эмму. Чтобы правильно использовать эмму, вы должны противостоять ей, рисуя хаки, которую она хочет, и не пытаться ее контролировать. Только так энма позволит вам стать ее хозяином. Зоро понял это и получил кох, разблокировав адкок и зеленую ауру CoA. Зоро не может использовать кох или зеленую ауру CoA, если только эмма не перерисовывает его хаки. Ваш фанфик не имеет отношения к этой истории. Как вы можете думать, что не выдумываете, когда вы прямо противоречите себе, а они мангу, но все же читаете мангу с вашей точки зрения, а не так, как показывает манга. Ни одна из наших точек зрения не имеет значения, когда мы говорим о манге.
Хорошо, я скажу это снова. На крыше Зоро отдавал всего себя (учитывая его критическое состояние), но отдавал всего себя, не понимая, что ему не нужно сдерживать хаки в принципе, на крыше он не сдерживал его только для Энмы. В этом принципиальное различие между главой 1033 и крышей. Вы не можете понять, что хочет сказать автор. Суть всей ситуации с Энмой не в том, чтобы дать Энме достаточно хаки, но суть не в том, чтобы сдерживать свой хаки. То есть если дать энме натянуть хаки как на крышу (достаточно) она не будет мешать пользователю и будет резать сильнее. На крыше Зоро удовлетворил и позволил Энме взять столько, сколько она хотела. в 1033 году он САМ дал всем клинкам все. если вы хотите верить в свои теории о новом уровне хаки. про то что энма это проводник дополнительного запаса хаки. Я буду оперировать мангой и персонажами, которые уже назвали свойства эммы.

Again enma pulled so much haki it'd kill Zoro. Zoro is not weak nor has weak haki by any standard yet the amount enma was pulling out would kill him had he kept doing it. No other character ever has died from using their haki and the only ones that died from haki use was caused by enma. Do you really not understand how strong the haki has to be to kill zoro from use and yea Green aura is stronger than that purple smoke by how it was introduced as being the result of Zoro understanding enma. Imagine finally using the sword right but turns out using it wrong was actually stronger how much sense does that make to you? Again the shriveled effect is enma taking a lot of haki when Zoro wasn't trying to use haki. Essentially enma is forcing Zoro to use haki without him doing it himself making a negative effect on his body. Enma is special in that it goes against natural order and can make even someone with no haki mastery use haki by forcing but the cost of it is shriveling into a husk.

I didn't make up anything. Everything I said is from the manga while you are saying Zoro is wrong about himself and his abilities yet won't say how Zoro is wrong. You have still not shown why Zoro going all out by his words and did not have life threatening green haki coming out of him on the rooftop yet vs king it is. Why is it that you can never stay on point and either bring up irrelevant stuff to a pu or keep repeating a wrong point that contradicts the manga and what you say. Remember Zoro gave enma enough haki yet he at the same time wasn't using enma right which is to give enma enough haki? The basis of your argument is wrong because you aren't trying to understand the manga but trying to look at it as " oh zoro's so strong he doesn't need his sword for a pu" when it's clear he needs enma which he himself said would make him stronger ( a pu). The drawing effect is the pu for Zoro ulwho can now access stronger haki.

You do not matter it's what the manga shown. Enma is not a teacher. Zoro doesn't need to be told to go all out as literally he did that against kaido. His problem was he didn't understand how to properly use enma. To properly use enma you have to withstand it drawing the haki it wants and not try to control it. That's the only way enma will let you be it's master. Zoro understood this and gained koh by unlocking adcoc and green aura CoA. Zoro can't use koh or green aura CoA unless enma is there to over draw his haki. Your fan fic is irrelevant to the story. How can you think you are not making stuff up when you directly contradict yourself and they manga yet still read the manga from your prospective instead of as what the manga is showing. Neither of our perspectives matter when talking about manga facts. By Zoro saying enma makes him stronger means enma is a pu.

OK, I'll say it again. On the roof, Zoro gave his all (considering his critical condition), but he gave his all without understanding that he did not need to restrain haki at all, on the roof he did not restrain him only for Enma. This is the fundamental difference between the 1033 chapter and the roof. You can't understand what the author wants to say. The essence of the whole situation with Enma is not to give Enma enough haki, but the essence is not to restrain your haki. That is, if you give enme to pull haki like on the roof (enough) it will not interfere with the user and will cut harder. On the roof, Zoro satisfied and allowed Enma to take as much as she wanted. in 1033, he HIMSELF gave everything to all the blades. if you want to believe in your theories about the new level of haki. about the fact that enma is a conductor of an additional supply of haki. I will operate on manga and on characters who have already named the properties of enma.

 

[Robin swan]

OK, I'll say it again. On the roof, Zoro gave his all (considering his critical condition), but he gave his all without understanding that he did not need to restrain haki at all, on the roof he did not restrain him only for Enma. This is the fundamental difference between the 1033 chapter and the roof. You can't understand what the author wants to say. The essence of the whole situation with Enma is not to give Enma enough haki, but the essence is not to restrain your haki. That is, if you give enme to pull haki like on the roof (enough) it will not interfere with the user and will cut harder. On the roof, Zoro satisfied and allowed Enma to take as much as she wanted. in 1033, he HIMSELF gave everything to all the blades. if you want to believe in your theories about the new level of haki. about the fact that enma is a conductor of an additional supply of haki. I will operate on manga and on characters who have already named the properties of enma.

You are just wrong. The point was that was what Zoro was doing. Do you even understand why Zoro said he had to unleash more of enma power it's because he was controlling it. Same as right before unlocking koh he was thinking about controlling enma again but realized that was wrong. Zoro understanding enma was understanding not to try and stop the drawing effect but to withstand it while still maintaining enma. Yea he was actively holding enma back and not letting it draw more haki that's why the green aura haki never appeared on the rooftop because Zoro never allowed enma to draw enough haki to do it. Better yet use your head cannon and explain why green aura haki appeared?

For the last time explain how Zoro going all out on the rooftop did not show as much haki as vs king. Zoro can't lie about Zoro so yea that was his limit and his haki was weaker than vs king. The only difference is Zoro understanding enma but you want to act like Zoro always had this power when Zoro himself shows he didn't. You can't rewrite the manga and you still can't explain the boost in zoro's CoA. No Zoro wasn't restraining his haki as he was going all out. He just never let enma take more haki than he could manage and was playing it safe which himself understand was wrong. You can't seem to understand enma let's Zoro go past his limit at the cost of his life if he does it to long. Zoro would lose his like like the others enma killed because he's using more haki than is naturally mastered. Enma allows zoro to jump up a level in CoA which is the pu.

For the last time enma haki draw does not apply only for enma. It's Zoro that controls what to do with the haki enma just draws it. You have this crazy misunderstanding that since enma has the drawing aura that means the haki is only for enma yet never show where that was stated or proof Zoro can't use the haki enma draws anywhere else. I already shown by thriller bark that if 1 of zoro's swords is stronger than the others it throws off his attacks and engulfs them. That never happened and if enma was using more haki than his other swords by the manga his attacks would be off yet never were. Now stop with this nonsense acting like Zoro could not use his haki on anything else because enma aura before. Zoro could always use the haki enma drew on his other swords koh just made it more clear as he unlocked 2 new haki's at once in adcoc and green aura CoA. Zoro HIMSELF always uses his haki how he wanted.

 

[Artem]

You are just wrong. The point was that was what Zoro was doing. Do you even understand why Zoro said he had to unleash more of enma power it's because he was controlling it. Same as right before unlocking koh he was thinking about controlling enma again but realized that was wrong. Zoro understanding enma was understanding not to try and stop the drawing effect but to withstand it while still maintaining enma. Yea he was actively holding enma back and not letting it draw more haki that's why the green aura haki never appeared on the rooftop because Zoro never allowed enma to draw enough haki to do it. Better yet use your head cannon and explain why green aura haki appeared?

For the last time explain how Zoro going all out on the rooftop did not show as much haki as vs king. Zoro can't lie about Zoro so yea that was his limit and his haki was weaker than vs king. The only difference is Zoro understanding enma but you want to act like Zoro always had this power when Zoro himself shows he didn't. You can't rewrite the manga and you still can't explain the boost in zoro's CoA. No Zoro wasn't restraining his haki as he was going all out. He just never let enma take more haki than he could manage and was playing it safe which himself understand was wrong. You can't seem to understand enma let's Zoro go past his limit at the cost of his life if he does it to long. Zoro would lose his like like the others enma killed because he's using more haki than is naturally mastered. Enma allows zoro to jump up a level in CoA which is the pu.

For the last time enma haki draw does not apply only for enma. It's Zoro that controls what to do with the haki enma just draws it. You have this crazy misunderstanding that since enma has the drawing aura that means the haki is only for enma yet never show where that was stated or proof Zoro can't use the haki enma draws anywhere else. I already shown by thriller bark that if 1 of zoro's swords is stronger than the others it throws off his attacks and engulfs them. That never happened and if enma was using more haki than his other swords by the manga his attacks would be off yet never were. Now stop with this nonsense acting like Zoro could not use his haki on anything else because enma aura before. Zoro could always use the haki enma drew on his other swords koh just made it more clear as he unlocked 2 new haki's at once in adcoc and green aura CoA. Zoro HIMSELF always uses his haki how he wanted.

you literally deny this frame and the ones above on them Zoro already gives enme haki in sufficient quantity. Read it carefully again, on it Zoro gives the blade enough haki (before the king of hell mode), he literally says that if he continues to give so much, he will die. And there is no acoc on this frame and no acoa on other blades. Do you understand? We literally have a frame on which Zoro says that if he continues to give so much, he will die. But then he ignored the danger and poured all the haki he could into all the blades himself. himself and not because of Enma. If you care about the color and you think it matters, you can assume that the green aura on the three blades is what Zoro gives 100% haki to all swords. Read this frame carefully again and you will understand that Enma gets enough haki before acc mode.

 

[Robin swan]

you literally deny this frame and the ones above on them Zoro already gives enme haki in sufficient quantity. Read it carefully again, on it Zoro gives the blade enough haki (before the king of hell mode), he literally says that if he continues to give so much, he will die. And there is no acoc on this frame and no acoa on other blades. Do you understand? We literally have a frame on which Zoro says that if he continues to give so much, he will die. But then he ignored the danger and poured all the haki he could into all the blades himself. himself and not because of Enma. If you care about the color and you think it matters, you can assume that the green aura on the three blades is what Zoro gives 100% haki to all swords. Read this frame carefully again and you will understand that Enma gets enough haki before acc mode.

You read it says exude which is haki in general and we literally see Zoro letting enma take the haki. Zoro was not emitting the haki himself but it was enma drawing it and Zoro just deciding not to stop enma again because that's the wrong way to use the sword. You need to understand Zoro uses his haki like he wants. I really don't get why you are so hung up over enma somehow controlling where haki goes which it doesn't and Zoro has always used the haki how he wanted. Why do you keep ignoring the thriller bark point and repeat the same nonsense that's been debunked. If according to you the haki was always only for enma and Zoro couldn't put the haki it draws on other swords why wasn't everyone of zoro's attacks thrown off because of this? By thriller bark Zoro needs all his swords to have balance to perform his attacks correctly but according to you he doesn't. So just stop repeating what's already been established by the manga as wrong. Again Zoro was controlling the haki enma took up to this point and never let it take to much which was the wrong way to use enma that he admitted. This is also why the green aura CoA never appeared on the rooftop because Zoro was using enma wrong. I ask again when can someone else die from using haki? Enma is the only known way to die from to much haki being used. Is it just a coincidence that the second Zoro starts using enma the way it wants which is to draw a massive amount of haki without restraint he now to can potentially died because of it like the others that used the sword?

Don't quote me again until you answer how Zoro gets stronger haki than on the rooftop when he himself said he went all out. If Zoro going all out on the rooftop didn't result in green aura CoA that can kill him where did it come from since enma isn't doing it and according to you is just zoro? You keep side stepping this and Zoro can't be wrong about Zoro so explain.

 

[JoNdule]

Find a sword that could react to music from its owner's daughter
Find a sword that got wanked this hard
Find a sword that was said to have someone's haki/aura /presence in it
Find a sword that boost your AP/lethality/Haki this much

Enma is one of the biggest PUs in this series

 

[Zolo]

Find a sword that could react to music from its owner's daughter
Find a sword that got wanked this hard
Find a sword that was said to have someone's haki/aura /presence in it
Find a sword that boost your AP/lethality/Haki this much

Enma is the of the biggest PUs in this series

Whats funny for Oden it was a regular sword the way he handled it, and zoro is pissing hes pants whenever he holds it There a reason Kaido was right saying there will never be a swordsman as strong as Oden anymore... the days of strong of swordsmanship ended when Kaido took over Wano

 

[Artem]

You read it says exude which is haki in general and we literally see Zoro letting enma take the haki. Zoro was not emitting the haki himself but it was enma drawing it and Zoro just deciding not to stop enma again because that's the wrong way to use the sword. You need to understand Zoro uses his haki like he wants. I really don't get why you are so hung up over enma somehow controlling where haki goes which it doesn't and Zoro has always used the haki how he wanted. Why do you keep ignoring the thriller bark point and repeat the same nonsense that's been debunked. If according to you the haki was always only for enma and Zoro couldn't put the haki it draws on other swords why wasn't everyone of zoro's attacks thrown off because of this? By thriller bark Zoro needs all his swords to have balance to perform his attacks correctly but according to you he doesn't. So just stop repeating what's already been established by the manga as wrong. Again Zoro was controlling the haki enma took up to this point and never let it take to much which was the wrong way to use enma that he admitted. This is also why the green aura CoA never appeared on the rooftop because Zoro was using enma wrong. I ask again when can someone else die from using haki? Enma is the only known way to die from to much haki being used. Is it just a coincidence that the second Zoro starts using enma the way it wants which is to draw a massive amount of haki without restraint he now to can potentially died because of it like the others that used the sword?

Don't quote me again until you answer how Zoro gets stronger haki than on the rooftop when he himself said he went all out. If Zoro going all out on the rooftop didn't result in green aura CoA that can kill him where did it come from since enma isn't doing it and according to you is just zoro? You keep side stepping this and Zoro can't be wrong about Zoro so explain.

I have repeatedly explained the difference between when Enma sucks haki and what Zoro himself gives out in e that there are three sword. You. even ignore the frame that I threw off in the previous frame in which Zoro realizes Enma's intention and gives her (only her) the necessary amount of haki. You can't understand the difference between letting Enma take the amount she needs and giving everything to the three blades yourself. In general, the manga will show which of us is right.
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Find a sword that could react to music from its owner's daughter
Find a sword that got wanked this hard
Find a sword that was said to have someone's haki/aura /presence in it
Find a sword that boost your AP/lethality/Haki this much

Enma is the of the biggest PUs in this series

After 1033 chapters, Enma does not stand out in terms of attack and the number of haki. Secondly, the presence of the former owner is present in all matches at the cemetery in ringo, as the monk Lol said. enma is just a shit sucking haki against his will, as soon as Zoro realized he himself threw haki into all three blades. shusui>enma

 

[mly90]

I have repeatedly explained the difference between when Enma sucks haki and what Zoro himself gives out in e that there are three sword. You. even ignore the frame that I threw off in the previous frame in which Zoro realizes Enma's intention and gives her (only her) the necessary amount of haki. You can't understand the difference between letting Enma take the amount she needs and giving everything to the three blades yourself. In general, the manga will show which of us is right.
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After 1033 chapters, Enma does not stand out in terms of attack and the number of haki. Secondly, the presence of the former owner is present in all matches at the cemetery in ringo, as the monk Lol said. enma is just a shit sucking haki against his will, as soon as Zoro realized he himself threw haki into all three blades. shusui>enma

Both the mang and anime clearly show Zoro is the one 100% in control of the haki he exudes unless we see his arm shirinking
The anime: I will die if I keep releasing this much haki

The manga: If I have to keep exuding it at this level it will kill me

The obsession to make Zoro reliant on shitty sword draw out his haki for him is so lame because these folks can't stand fact all their head canons got shattered to downplay him. Ignoring everything Kyoshiro and Kozaburo said about sword following will of it's master and that swordsmaster bend sword to his will not the other way around

 

[Artem]

Both the mang and anime clearly show Zoro is the one 100% in control of the haki he exudes unless we see his arm shirinking
The anime: I will die if I keep releasing this much haki

The manga: If I have to keep exuding it at this level it will kill me

The obsession to make Zoro reliant on shitty sword draw out his haki for him is so lame because these folks can't stand fact all their head canons got shattered to downplay him. Ignoring everything Kyoshiro and Kozaburo said about sword following will of it's master and that swordsmaster bend sword to his will not the other way around

well, you saw for yourself that the dude writes to me, he came up with at least 5 conditions for enma to match his headcanon. 1 He came up with that green haki > Purple. 2 He came up with the idea that Enma gives access to a "special haki" 3 He came up with the idea that Enma gives access to those volumes of haki that are inaccessible to a swordsman. 4 Enma does not suck haki into itself (although this has been demonstrated more than once) but releases haki throughout the body. 5 Enma opens the haki stopper and Zoro throws haki onto the rest of the blades. The guy is approaching the Rutbeera milestone.
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although why be surprised? The haters decided to blame mihawk for the fact that the dude doesn't want to fight to make buggy the pirate king. That's it. Of course he doesn't want to fight for this idiot and drag him upstairs. WB or Kaido would say the same thing. And they decided to spin it as a weakness lol. Although Kaido literally didn't want to fight the Bm that invaded his territory. Or memories of a fight with vista, when we have Jimbey humiliating Bm twice. Yes, he literally tanks the ult Bm with his bare hands lol.

 

[Robin swan]

I have repeatedly explained the difference between when Enma sucks haki and what Zoro himself gives out in e that there are three sword. You. even ignore the frame that I threw off in the previous frame in which Zoro realizes Enma's intention and gives her (only her) the necessary amount of haki. You can't understand the difference between letting Enma take the amount she needs and giving everything to the three blades yourself. In general, the manga will show which of us is right.
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After 1033 chapters, Enma does not stand out in terms of attack and the number of haki. Secondly, the presence of the former owner is present in all matches at the cemetery in ringo, as the monk Lol said. enma is just a shit sucking haki against his will, as soon as Zoro realized he himself threw haki into all three blades. shusui>enma

No you didn't Zoro said he went all out so why was there no green aura CoA haki that could kill him on the rooftop? Zoro can not be wrong about himself going to his limit so why was there no green aura haki at his limit?

 

[HA001]

No you didn't Zoro said he went all out so why was there no green aura CoA haki that could kill him on the rooftop? Zoro can not be wrong about himself going to his limit so why was there no green aura haki at his limit?

Because you can go all out without trying to kill yourself

 

[Robin swan]

Because you can go all out without trying to kill yourself

Zoro said his limit that was the best Zoro can do by his own words? Also Luffy was unconscious and Zoro was at death's door why would he hold back? Again Zoro can't be wrong about his own limit and best of his ability according to him.

 

[HA001]

Zoro said his limit that was the best Zoro can do by his own words? Also Luffy was unconscious and Zoro was at death's door why would he hold back? Again Zoro can't be wrong about his own limit and best of his ability according to him.

Of course he can. You can go all out without trying to kill yourself.
Which is what zoro stopped doing when he released all his haki.
Anime and manga made it clear
Zoro is the one who released all his haki
He can swap enma for a stick and the same thing would happen

 

[Robin swan]

Of course he can. You can go all out without trying to kill yourself.
Which is what zoro stopped doing when he released all his haki.
Anime and manga made it clear
Zoro is the one who released all his haki
He can swap enma for a stick and the same thing would happen

So you are saying Zoro is lying when he says it's the limit of his ability? Better yet you think Zoro places beating king above his own and luffy's life? Make it make sense.