Character Discussion Anyone else think that the Seraphim were kinda dumb additions to the story?

[Shiroyru]

Tbh I’m not really sure what the point of the Seraphim is. Feels like they just exist to pad out the amount of fights in the final war. They’re not really interesting as characters since they’re just essentially mindless robots, and their fighting styles are pretty much just copies of the Warlords’ fighting styles, but with a little bit of King and Queen mixed in. Their existence also begs the question of why the WG doesn’t just make even more of them. Why not have S-Admirals and S-Yonko?

 

[Djordje]

Yes they were.

 

[soupongo]

Most of the science shit in OP has been pretty lame and pointless, cloning especially. I would imagine Oda just wanted Vegapunk to build up the ancient Kingdom as a very science obsessed Kingdom, I guess in dichotomy with the WG/20 kings seeing technologial progress as a threat.

 

[Doggo]

Shichibukai system: A system that the WG/Navy allows certain notorious pirates to act more freely while being required to sometimes put fear into the hearts of others pirates as they primarily work for the wg/navy.
The issue: these pirates were simply too unreliable. Many scandals like Crocodile trying to take over Alabasta, Doffy's reign in Dressrosa, Teach's betrayal, Jimbo's resignation, etc.
The solution: create powerful pacifistas that resemble these same notorious shichibukais, to both capitalize on their infamy, as well as reproducing a race that has extremely broken abilities (lunarians). Make them obedient so you have less issues.
The 2nd issue: they retain some of the original person's personality, because Oda decided that personality is genetical. So some of them may still be problematic, but they are still programmed to be obedient. So there's less chance for scandals.

You: "hurr durr its just for matchup".

 

[ZenZu]

I deadass forgot they existed.

 

[L57]

7 fighters who cant be hurt without plot bs Good idea

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

Tbh I’m not really sure what the point of the Seraphim is. Feels like they just exist to pad out the amount of fights in the final war. They’re not really interesting as characters since they’re just essentially mindless robots, and their fighting styles are pretty much just copies of the Warlords’ fighting styles, but with a little bit of King and Queen mixed in. Their existence also begs the question of why the WG doesn’t just make even more of them. Why not have S-Admirals and S-Yonko?

Because Vegapunk can't fully replicate Logias and 4/5 of the Admirals have them. And Yonkou are too dangerous if their programming goes haywire.

 

[GodofDarkness]

Oda created them for Blackbeard

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

Also, I would have gave them either the names of archangels or their animal species' name in Greek or Latin.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

The fact that only 4 were actually plot relevant shows they’re just a minor plot that only exists for fake drama imo

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Tbh I’m not really sure what the point of the Seraphim is. Feels like they just exist to pad out the amount of fights in the final war. They’re not really interesting as characters since they’re just essentially mindless robots, and their fighting styles are pretty much just copies of the Warlords’ fighting styles, but with a little bit of King and Queen mixed in. Their existence also begs the question of why the WG doesn’t just make even more of them. Why not have S-Admirals and S-Yonko?

I wish that they were based off new characters instead of the Warlords

Maybe like "legendary marine heroes" from the past.

 

[sanjikun]

They're there because the Shichibukai system fell and Oda needed the WG to justify their absence.

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

I wish that they were based off new characters instead of the Warlords

Maybe like "legendary marine heroes" from the past.

Or Rocks members like Shiki, Kyou, Ochoko and the like?

 

[Master OF Haki]

Absolutely, I was going to make the same thread about this, but yeah, they are utterly useless and pointless.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Or Rocks members like Shiki, Kyou, Ochoko and the like?

that could be cool

but i was thinking characters from an era even before Rocks. characters that it would make sense for the WG to have access to their remains

 

[Shiroyru]

Most of the science shit in OP has been pretty lame and pointless, cloning especially. I would imagine Oda just wanted Vegapunk to build up the ancient Kingdom as a very science obsessed Kingdom, I guess in dichotomy with the WG/20 kings seeing technologial progress as a threat.

If Oda wasn’t a retard, he would have made S-Kong

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

And Yonkou are too dangerous if their programming goes haywire

Why are you assuming that their programming can go haywire?

did Oda introduce this?

 

[Buusatan94]

Yes they were, another wet firecracker from Oda's part with them failing to bring anything to the story, aside from creepy and disturbing implications with S-Snake.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Shichibukai system: A system that the WG/Navy allows certain notorious pirates to act more freely while being required to sometimes put fear into the hearts of others pirates as they primarily work for the wg/navy.
The issue: these pirates were simply too unreliable. Many scandals like Crocodile trying to take over Alabasta, Doffy's reign in Dressrosa, Teach's betrayal, Jimbo's resignation, etc.
The solution: create powerful pacifistas that resemble these same notorious shichibukais, to both capitalize on their infamy, as well as reproducing a race that has extremely broken abilities (lunarians). Make them obedient so you have less issues.
The 2nd issue: they retain some of the original person's personality, because Oda decided that personality is genetical. So some of them may still be problematic, but they are still programmed to be obedient. So there's less chance for scandals.

You: "hurr durr its just for matchup".

/thread

 

[Zoinks52]

that could be cool

but i was thinking characters from an era even before Rocks. characters that it would make sense for the WG to have access to their remains

Like the 20 kings?

Or Ancient Giants...imagine S-Oars