General & Others Anyone who uses a sword is a swordsman. Yes, including Big Mom and Kizaru.
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Am surprised people are debating what a swordsman is, whether Kizaru and Bm are swordsmen etc. The definition of swordsman and what a sword is have already been defined in the manga.
Vergo says he will cut Luffy and co to ribbons then he realises he can't see his sword.
Monet replays to this that Vergo is not a swordsman. (Implying only a swordsman uses a sword)
Vergo then replys that he is indeed not a swordsman. Then he states that he will crush Luffy and co. (He then changes his mind from cutting Luffy and co to crushing them since he is not a swordsman thus he can't cut them.)
If you follow this conversation it is clear that to be a swordsman all you need is to fight with a sword. From Monets words it is clear that a swordsman fights with a sword. Therefore a person that isn't a swordsman will not fight with a sword. As a result, it is not strange that Vergo who is not a swordsman doesn't have a sword.
Zoro thought of Kaku as a 2 sword style swordsman, however, Kaku corrected him and said he is infact a 4 swordstyle swordsman. Zoro follows by stating that Kaku's body is a weapon.
tl;drThe manga is very clear on who a swordsman is and what a sword is. If an individual meets any of the criteria identified above, they are a swordman.
Kizaru used a sword made from his df whilst BM also used a sword made using her df. This still count as swords. If legs (Kaku) are swords, then Kizaru and Bm's swords made with their dfs are definetly swords. Therefore Kizaru and BM are swordsmen
- Someone who uses a sword is a swordsman.
Vergo says he will cut Luffy and co to ribbons then he realises he can't see his sword.
Monet replays to this that Vergo is not a swordsman. (Implying only a swordsman uses a sword)
Vergo then replys that he is indeed not a swordsman. Then he states that he will crush Luffy and co. (He then changes his mind from cutting Luffy and co to crushing them since he is not a swordsman thus he can't cut them.)
If you follow this conversation it is clear that to be a swordsman all you need is to fight with a sword. From Monets words it is clear that a swordsman fights with a sword. Therefore a person that isn't a swordsman will not fight with a sword. As a result, it is not strange that Vergo who is not a swordsman doesn't have a sword.
- A physical sword is not needed to be a swordsman. Anything can be a sword so long as the user defines them as such. Including the users body
Zoro thought of Kaku as a 2 sword style swordsman, however, Kaku corrected him and said he is infact a 4 swordstyle swordsman. Zoro follows by stating that Kaku's body is a weapon.
- Zoro: "If it is swords, am all for it"
- Zoro: "Anyone that calls themself a swordman"
tl;drThe manga is very clear on who a swordsman is and what a sword is. If an individual meets any of the criteria identified above, they are a swordman.
Kizaru used a sword made from his df whilst BM also used a sword made using her df. This still count as swords. If legs (Kaku) are swords, then Kizaru and Bm's swords made with their dfs are definetly swords. Therefore Kizaru and BM are swordsmen
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Big Mom IS at her strongest with her sword. Prove me wrong. 
Yet when she used her homies she defeated judge with a single attack, she killed a bunch of people with hocus pocus, she took out a shit ton of people with her CoC.
Is that enough? Maybe you can try to prove big mom is stronger with her sword which is not really a sword by the way but a homie created by her df
Everytime she used a sword she didn't defeat a single soul, even fucking king Baum survived while he was down after Amande's attack.
Yet when she used her homies she defeated judge with a single attack, she killed a bunch of people with hocus pocus, she took out a shit ton of people with her CoC.
Is that enough? Maybe you can try to prove big mom is stronger with her sword which is not really a sword by the way but a homie created by her df
Yet when she used her homies she defeated judge with a single attack, she killed a bunch of people with hocus pocus, she took out a shit ton of people with her CoC.
Is that enough? Maybe you can try to prove big mom is stronger with her sword which is not really a sword by the way but a homie created by her df
Kaku has swords. Kizaru doesn't, nothing similar about it.
By your logic every cp9 member had swords and were swordsman because they could use rankyaku, oh wait no, only the dude who carries swords was considered a swordsman. Wonder why that is.
Oh yea having a sword is a prerequisite for being a swordsman, who would of thunk it? Even Daz wasn't considered a swordsman despite his whole body being a blade and him using it like a blade.
Until Kizaru comes out and outright says he's a swordsman, there is no reason to categorize him as one, as he doesn't even meet the absolute basic requirement of having a blade let alone a sword.
Damn, Luffy must be going around carrying guns and bazookas then. Since he named moves created by his df after guns.
By your logic every cp9 member had swords and were swordsman because they could use rankyaku, oh wait no, only the dude who carries swords was considered a swordsman. Wonder why that is.
Oh yea having a sword is a prerequisite for being a swordsman, who would of thunk it? Even Daz wasn't considered a swordsman despite his whole body being a blade and him using it like a blade.
Until Kizaru comes out and outright says he's a swordsman, there is no reason to categorize him as one, as he doesn't even meet the absolute basic requirement of having a blade let alone a sword.
He uses "Sword of Gathering Clouds of the Heaven".
You: Kizaru doesnt use a sword.
You: Kizaru doesnt use a sword.