General & Others Are you ok with the Nepotism in One Piece?

[Gol D. Roger]

According to Google AI-

“Nepotism, or favoritism shown to relatives, is a recurring theme in anime, particularly in series focusing on family legacies and power structures. Several popular anime, including Naruto & One Piece, feature characters who inherit significant power or status due to their parentage”

Unless just having your genetics from your high achieving parents counts as nepotism, I don't see how this applies to the majority of the characters listed in this thread. Take BB for instance, other than having his father's genetics, not a single achievement of his is due to his connection with his father.

Luffy's pretty much the same although there are certainly instances where he's got treated differently due to his family connections. But most of what he achieved so far, he worked for them. The same goes for Zori.

 

[Fn Lucci]

Unless just having your genetics from your high achieving parents counts as nepotism, I don't see how this applies to the majority of the characters listed in this thread. Take BB for instance, other than having his father's genetics, not a single achievement of his is due to his connection with his father.

Luffy's pretty much the same although there are certainly instances where he's got treated differently due to his family connections. But most of what he achieved so far, he worked for them. The same goes for Zori.

You literally can't make it past chapter 100 with this mindset regarding Luffy, though.

Blackbeard is obviously too early for any assumptions. The fact is that we could have even guessed the connection years ago based on his crew structure.

 

[sanjikun]

Unless just having your genetics from your high achieving parents counts as nepotism, I don't see how this applies to the majority of the characters listed in this thread. Take BB for instance, other than having his father's genetics, not a single achievement of his is due to his connection with his father.

Luffy's pretty much the same although there are certainly instances where he's got treated differently due to his family connections. But most of what he achieved so far, he worked for them. The same goes for Zori.

You can argue WB picked up BB because he was Rox' son though. The same for Ace and Garp.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

You can argue WB picked up BB because he was Rox' son though. The same for Ace and Garp.

Can we really say just taking them in counts as Nepotism? While I don't deny they got opportunities to grow stronger thanks their parental figures, for the most part, they're all left to figure things on their own.

Like even Coby has better training environment than Luffy as harsh as his training was. You get food on the table, security, medical attention if needed, proper rest and all while Garp just left Luffy in a jungle to figure things on his own and grow stronger. If peeps think Garp leaving Luffy to die in a jungle is partly nepotism, there isn't much to add.

 

[sanjikun]

Can we really say just taking them in counts as Nepotism? While I don't deny they got opportunities to grow stronger thanks their parental figures, for the most part, they're all left to figure things on their own.

Like even Coby has better training environment than Luffy as harsh as his training was. You get food on the table, security, medical attention if needed, proper rest and all while Garp just left Luffy in a jungle to figure things on his own and grow stronger. If peeps think Garp leaving Luffy to die in a jungle is partly nepotism, there isn't much to add.

I mean BB said he used WB's flag to hide under until he got the Yami Yami no Mi.

 

[DJOMOLO]

Koby is lopsided and ironically, the other extreme. I mean the two years of training from not being a fighter to where he is now is pretty bad. Like seriously Kuma, you dickhead, Usopp couldn't have gone somewhere and done the same?

Usopp doesnt have nearly the same amount of ambition as Koby, you know this brah

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Bingo.

Disregarding everything else, a big major part is the prophecy bs.

"Freedom" is a core theme for one piece, and for luffy himself.

Luffy is choosen by the fruit. Everything is already pre determined for the world and story in a prophecy. They're already locked. There's zero freedom in what they do, it's already written. The future just needs to play out.

Shits on their most major theme. No freedom.

You're mistaking freedom with liberation. Liberation is a core theme in One Piece, Freedom is more geared towards Luffy. Luffy's freedom and the prophecy written about him are two contrasting themes that I hope Oda tackles on near the end of the story

 

[Kair0s1]

In Japanese culture, family lineage, legacy, and spiritual inheritance are deeply important themes. One Piece embraces this storytelling much like most manga. Calling it nepotism misses the point. Inheritance means carrying someone else’s burden, not simply cashing in on it. It’s not a shortcut but the entire struggle.

 

[Longleg Larry]

Hated it until I hoped for it. After seeing the shit in Elbaf, I’m pissed giants rejected Haj. They deserve Loki

 

[kekaro]

Extremely dumb topic
The word you looking for is privelege and every character has that in a way anyways

 

[Fn Lucci]

Usopp doesnt have nearly the same amount of ambition as Koby, you know this brah

Usopp's goal is to make Luffy the next Roger. Considering he witnessed Ray vs Kizaru obviously he would understand the task ahead of him to a reasonable degree. You can argue that he doesn't have the discipline of Koby, and I'd agree, but then you'd also have to realize that my point isn't really about Usopp.

 

[DJOMOLO]

Usopp's goal is to make Luffy the next Roger. Considering he witnessed Ray vs Kizaru obviously he would understand the task ahead of him to a reasonable degree. You can argue that he doesn't have the discipline of Koby, and I'd agree, but then you'd also have to realize that my point isn't really about Usopp.

What us your point then? And Usopp upgraded in the scope he could. Truthfully tho, it's not good at all. Oda is not doing a good job with him

 

[Fn Lucci]

What us your point then? And Usopp upgraded in the scope he could. Truthfully tho, it's not good at all. Oda is not doing a good job with him

My point applies to the time skip in general. Smoker learned Haki, too, but what's even the gap between them now? And so on... again, I'm not saying, "___ should be better" but that the jump from nothing to VA is inexplicable compared to the difference within characters who started the process much earlier. I mean he'd probably wash the Sanji from FI.

 

[warsame zaylai]

idk why i laughed at this

 

[DJOMOLO]

My point applies to the time skip in general. Smoker learned Haki, too, but what's even the gap between them now? And so on... again, I'm not saying, "___ should be better" but that the jump from nothing to VA is inexplicable compared to the difference within characters who started the process much earlier. I mean he'd probably wash the Sanji from FI.

Some people are just more gifted than others. It's the same as in real life. See any sport where young people are blowing their old peeps out of the water. Smoker is a fan favorite though which is why his progress compared to Koby leaves a bad taste to most readers. Though Koby's progress would be a problem if he was the only one but we have Lucci that blew up, Sabo that blew up, Luffy (main character treatment), and many more that I won't bother mentioning

 

[Fn Lucci]

Some people are just more gifted than others. It's the same as in real life. See any sport where young people are blowing their old peeps out of the water. Smoker is a fan favorite though which is why his progress compared to Koby leaves a bad taste to most readers. Though Koby's progress would be a problem if he was the only one but we have Lucci that blew up, Sabo that blew up, Luffy (main character treatment), and many more that I won't bother mentioning

Sabo? We don't actually know that but I will say in any case he's been a good example of a very balanced addition.

To the idea that some people are more gifted...Koby is the most explicit example in the series of a "hard work" character. You can say that both things can be true, but the reason for that in his own words was because he isn't talented and the isn't a character who knows him and refutes that.