Powers & Abilities asura being haoshoku haki makes no sense
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I'd be more shocked personally in my denial, like Zoro's was, with the context of, why the hell are you asking me that.
I have said that I am on the fence about whether it was base CoC, I believe Oda has kept in intentionally ambiguous about whether Zoro has base CoC here. I lean 60% no, but I am not that passionate about whether he has base CoC because of this intentional trolling by Oda.
I have said that I am on the fence about whether it was base CoC, I believe Oda has kept in intentionally ambiguous about whether Zoro has base CoC here. I lean 60% no, but I am not that passionate about whether he has base CoC because of this intentional trolling by Oda.
I believe that cursed swords -or spirit possessed weapons in general- might play into it. Perhaps they inhabit a certain demonic/animalistic spirit/aura, that can get manifested via CoC and that's why it's so rare. Afterall you'd need that kinda weapon and you would have to have CoC for it.
That could also make CoC based transformations a thing.
And Asura happens to be the manifestation of his Sandai Kitetsu.
That could also make CoC based transformations a thing.
And Asura happens to be the manifestation of his Sandai Kitetsu.
Oh shait.. ig i didnt clarify but i don't agree with the notion that it Advance Coc.. i believe its some sort of derivative of Coc.. but with the possibility that Zoro's spirit was soo overwhelming that kaido called it coc.. or that zoro doesn't knie the basics of Coc so he can't force it at will hence the area of influence ashura has is limited but that wouldn't explain why law didn't mention what Kaido did
.. Ashura is an oddity that must be covered honestly.. i share some of the doubts you do like why didn't Mihawk notice his Coc qualities and train him with it and hence make him stronger... or is it that zoro never pulled ashura against mihawk.. its astretch
And the problem with the desperate bloom of haki in this case is that it wasn't pointed out to be bloomed like it was in luffy's case..
In the case of Breath of all things.. oda took time to emphasize the state zoro was in and what he was feeling but here its FLIPIN AMBIGUOUS... with just Kaido calling out for zoro's coc.... it can be that just like luffy he didn't sense it at first hut zoro has been seen reacting to Luffy's Coc just like sanji...the only convenient answer would be that zoro never used ashura against Mihawk or never use it hence he doesn't know what it actually is... and Ashura is his last ditch attack a finisher something like San zen sakai.. so i doubt he'll use it often.
But this technique obeys a reliable definition of Coc... lets leave it to oda to cover thid mess
.. Ashura is an oddity that must be covered honestly.. i share some of the doubts you do like why didn't Mihawk notice his Coc qualities and train him with it and hence make him stronger... or is it that zoro never pulled ashura against mihawk.. its astretch
And the problem with the desperate bloom of haki in this case is that it wasn't pointed out to be bloomed like it was in luffy's case..
In the case of Breath of all things.. oda took time to emphasize the state zoro was in and what he was feeling but here its FLIPIN AMBIGUOUS... with just Kaido calling out for zoro's coc.... it can be that just like luffy he didn't sense it at first hut zoro has been seen reacting to Luffy's Coc just like sanji...the only convenient answer would be that zoro never used ashura against Mihawk or never use it hence he doesn't know what it actually is... and Ashura is his last ditch attack a finisher something like San zen sakai.. so i doubt he'll use it often.
But this technique obeys a reliable definition of Coc... lets leave it to oda to cover thid mess
because it is a borderline retcon
You are telling me that zoro had an advanced version of CoC that nobody but roger and shanks have, before we even knew what CoC was. That despite having such a high tier of CoC, he never used the most basic form of CoC to knock out fodder even accidentally. And that he didn't even know that this form was CoC based despite training with Mihawk for 2 years.
You are telling me that zoro had an advanced version of CoC that nobody but roger and shanks have, before we even knew what CoC was. That despite having such a high tier of CoC, he never used the most basic form of CoC to knock out fodder even accidentally. And that he didn't even know that this form was CoC based despite training with Mihawk for 2 years.
Well Coc is essentially manifestation of one's greatness and no one is greater than Zoro in One Piece besides Luffy
Also Zoro had Adv CoA since Alabasta. Yeah its a retcon..but it can also be subconscious awaknenings..like Zoro always had Adv CoC Potential in him..he just didn't know he had it.
Kaido commented specifically on CoC after getting fucked up
No ENma
No CoA
No power
Also Zoro had Adv CoA since Alabasta. Yeah its a retcon..but it can also be subconscious awaknenings..like Zoro always had Adv CoC Potential in him..he just didn't know he had it.
Kaido commented specifically on CoC after getting fucked up
No ENma
No CoA
No power
I don't know, I just think it's more practical for Oda to have Asura be cursed Sword related, otherwise he's just going to have to come up with something else for that. It just fits to perfectly for a "Demonic" form to be birthed from a "Cursed" Sword.
Not to mention the parallels that Zoro draws from the character Guts, from Berserk. Guts being branded/cursed, and eventually gets the Berserker armor where it's a constant battle between himself and his demonic form, pairs nicely with Zoro, his cursed Sword, and his own demonic form.
Not to mention the parallels that Zoro draws from the character Guts, from Berserk. Guts being branded/cursed, and eventually gets the Berserker armor where it's a constant battle between himself and his demonic form, pairs nicely with Zoro, his cursed Sword, and his own demonic form.
first off
where did the term adv coc spark from..
its coating yourself in coc
zoro didnt do that. he is just now learning he had it .
luffy and kaido are
another food for thought
were zoro and oden able to scar kaido due to being coc users?
the latter oden couldnt coat himself in coc like roger and wb
is that why the scabbards failed
is that why kaido has such a hate boner for other coc users? because they can deal long lasting damage?
where did the term adv coc spark from..
its coating yourself in coc
zoro didnt do that. he is just now learning he had it .
luffy and kaido are
another food for thought
were zoro and oden able to scar kaido due to being coc users?
the latter oden couldnt coat himself in coc like roger and wb
is that why the scabbards failed
is that why kaido has such a hate boner for other coc users? because they can deal long lasting damage?