Character Discussion Better portrayal: Marco vs Katakuri

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Lee Ba Shou

Conqueror of the Stars
Does that prove not even those superior to Luffy can hit Katakuri?
When you hear people say that people as strong as Doflamingo and Cracker cannot defeat Katakuri because it’s “impossible”, what does that tell you?

The only reason Kuri even dominated Luffy is because Luffy is severely lacking in COO which improved drastically by the time Luffy entered Wano. Luffy with proper control over FS would murder would've murdered Kuri even back at WC
Luffy with proper control of FS, using his fastest Gear 4 form, was still only even with Katakuri in speed 30% of the time lol.

Katakuri would mangle Wano Luffy. It’s even debatable if current Luffy is on his level at all.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
You don't force counter something and then go "yea i can do it much better"
You go "oh sweet jesus i am alive"
I dont care for your opinion im talking about what happened in the fight.
Luffy used g3 multiple times kata didnt dodge it once. Kata saw what luffy was gonna do on the ship couldnt do anything to stop him and got stuck in the mirror world.
 

Gol D. Roger

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Different scenario altogether.
If you can channel anger, you can still be in control of yourself.
But that was Luffy going at it without any control whatsoever.
Different but similar and almost all of them enraged Luffy but he never lose control. Luffy gets angry when his friends are hurt but he also understands people get hurt and lose lives in fights. Although he wasn't sure of it, Luffy was confident his friends escaped Kaido's attack. He was enraged mostly because of Tama and it's pretty hard to imagine Luffy losing control of his senses because a friend is hurt. Something similar happened with Bellamy, he didn't lose control. Even in chapter 1000 where he saw his teammates get beaten to death with one of them losing their limb, Luffy didn't lose control even though it's pretty obvious he is enraged.
 

Gol D. Roger

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When you hear people say that people as strong as Doflamingo and Cracker cannot defeat Katakuri because it’s “impossible”, what does that tell you?
It means he's perceived to be much better than Doffy and Cracker by whoever found it impossible to believe which doesn't make it a fact. Regardless, Being far above Doffy/Cracker =/= No one is able to beat/hurt him.

Luffy with proper control of FS, using his fastest Gear 4 form, was still only even with Katakuri in speed 30% of the time lol.

Katakuri would mangle Wano Luffy. It’s even debatable if current Luffy is on his level at all.
Luffy barely awakened FS at WCI and only demonstrated perfect control of it at Wano. If he's able to edge beat him when he barely knows FS then it's only logical he'd beat him when he has perfect control of it.
 
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Katakuri throws away 2 of his finishing options : awakening and mogura yet still matches and blitzes snakeman

Fandom "pre udon luffy is above KaKatakuri"

When Katakuri uses fs effortlessly , even now luffy is yet to showcase that exceptional fs mastery despite being stronger overall.
Then why did he throw them away in the first place.

Power levels are not just based off meta of what characters are able to do and what they are not, but also the practical skill to make their abilities borne fruit in an actual combat.
 
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