Chapter Discussion Beyond dragons and dinos

[CbShadow]

Lik ignoring Kings own Vivre card stating he holds the highest strength after Kaido.

Kaido and Luffy lol diff their second in commands.

:holdthisl:
:cheers:
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And Zoro fans are just deluded



Getting negged diff by a subordinate

Kaido being stronger does not mean he can low diff King. Base on everything we have seen that's at high difficult battle.

 

[Adamxero]

Kaido being stronger does it mean he can low diff King. Base on everything we have seen that's at high difficult battle.

Based on what him lol diffing Zolo who in a 1 v 1 Kaido would annihilate?

Nothing suggests King would push Kaido to a high diff fight other than your headcanon.

It took 5 YC1 Level fighters (Luffy being slightly higher) to push both Kaido and Big Mom to break a sweat and you think King pushed Kaido to high diff get off the copium it's bad for you.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Now i understand why Zoro is the last person in the whole island to get a PU and has that stupid medicine plot, Black Blade Enma Zoro neg diffs Big Meme and easily kills Kaido.
Luffy needed 20 different PU just to clash with an exhausted, holding back Kaido and hours later still hasn't managed to do what Zoro did in a single hit!

 

[Adamxero]

Now i understand why Zoro is the last person in the whole island to get a PU and has that stupid medicine plot, Black Blade Enma Zoro neg diffs Big Meme and easily kills Kaido.
Luffy needed 20 different PU just to clash with an exhausted, holding back Kaido and hours later still hasn't managed to do what Zoro did in a single hit!

At least Luffy's managed to knock Kaido down while hurting him pre-advCoC may I add with Red Rock. A feat Zolo still cannot do.

Zolo still catching up to pre-advCoC Luffy

 

[Date]

1month ago Zoro was strongest than all the Emperors together now the zorot4rds are having a hard time making a 4D chess to try to find a way to justify the headcanon where King is stonger than Kaido 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Kaido is stronger than King, like Luffy is stronger than Zoro. The thing with King is the Lunarian skin seems to have some secret behind it, thats why he cover it.

Imagine when they read the chapter where Marco make King bleed.

 

[Zowo]

1month ago Zoro was strongest than all the Emperors together now the zorot4rds are having a hard time making a 4D chess to try to find a way to justify the headcanon where King is stonger than Kaido 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Kaido is stronger than King, like Luffy is stronger than Zoro. The thing with King is the Lunarian skin seems to have some secret behind it, thats why he cover it.

just say you can t read

@TheAncientCenturion they keep coming

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

A clueless Luffy fan... I could have expected... Zoro has no trouble cutting him.
Will take time for you to get the difference between cutting him and inflicting significant damage.


Copium cant help you.
I am dying to know what Kaido is better at than King.
Enlighten me.


There were no wings when Zoro cut him up with Oni Giri and he still didnt take any significant damage.
Remember that such an attack is enough to take out Killer instantly.
And that same attack would deal the same or higher damage to Kaido than the Tatsumaki did.
The conclusion is what manga tells us - King is the most durable guy in Wano.


Repeat it until you believe it. :shame:

Zoro's Tatsumaki did ZERO damage to King's wings. Not even a speck of blood came off of them.

Whatever insignificant damage Zoro does to King's actual body is irrelevant as cutting the wings are the real issue for Zoro.

 

[The White Crane]

It was inevitable. Sanji fans are bitter that Queen is a shitty fight so far. Kata fans are upset that King might match or surpass him. Luffy fans are insecure in general.

I honestly still think Queen's performance does not justify his bounty whatsoever, tbh. Even Cracker looked more like a better fighter than Queen, let alone legit beasts ala Katakuri or King (any notion that Queen > Katakuri or Queen = King ought to be endlessly ridiculed).

Queen consistently hurt the Beast Pirates' cause more than anything in this raid and had to be hard carried by King in the live floor to get the job done when dealing with Marco and Cook. The moment King had to leave him alone because of Zoro, we saw Cook immediately owning his ass again. What's worse, for a guy allegedly equal to King, we saw how Queen is much less durable than Kaido, unlike King, and how Queen took forever to land a hit on Cook, whom King negged twice.

Sorry for ranting, but what the fuck was Oda thinking when giving this clown a 1.320 billion bounty? Even poor Jack the Drought of onscreen feats did not self harm himself and his crew to this extent. I can make sense of Katakuri having a 1.320.000.000 bounty, but not Queen.

It's like Oda is consistently making YC1 of each crew to exclusively hard carry their crew's absence of captain. Marco did it in MF, Kata did it in WCI, and now King is doing it Wano.

I like Cook's fighting style, so Oda feeding someone as disappointing as Queen after 15 years feels like a big middle finger, tbh.

Boggles the mind, this situation does.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

At least Luffy's managed to knock Kaido down while hurting him pre-advCoC may I add with Red Rock. A feat Zolo still cannot do.

Zolo still catching up to pre-advCoC Luffy

Zoro still catching up to his lil bro that got neg diffed by Batman, fat sumo guy, Queen, Ulti, Apoo, etc?
Nah, Zoro protected Luffy from Kaido and that's why Luffy got to get up and asspull CoC coating, Luffy should just name his new gear after Zoro.
Monster samurai stronger than Oden Zoro still negs tho.
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I honestly still think Queen's performance does not justify his bounty whatsoever, tbh. Even Cracker looked more like a better fighter than Queen, let alone legit beasts Katakuri or King (any notion that Queen > Katakuri or Queen = King ought to be endlessly ridiculed).

Queen consistently hurt the Beast Pirates' cause more than anything in this raid and had to be hard carried by King in the live floor to get the job done when dealing with Marco and Cook. The moment King had to leave him alone because of Zoro, we saw Cook immediately owning his ass again. What's worse, for a guy allegedly equal to King, we saw how Queen is much less durable than Kaido, unlike King, and how Queen took forever to land a hit on Cook, whom King negged twice.

Sorry for ranting, but what the fuck was Oda thinking when giving this clown a 1.320 billion bounty? Even poor Jack the Drought of onscreen feats did not self harm himself and his crew to this extent. I can make sense of Katakuri having a 1.320.000.000 bounty, but not Queen.

It's like Oda is consistently making YC1 of each crew to exclusively hard carry their crew's absence of captain. Marco did it in MF, Kata did it in WCI, and now King is doing it Wano.

I like Cook's fighting style, so Oda feeding someone as disappointing as Queen after 15 years feels like a big middle finger, tbh.

Boggles the mind, this situation does.

Queen's bounty = MADS, viruses, destroyed whole cities with his pathogens and he's old as fuck, his threat level is there, he simply lacks combat ability.
They can overhype his lasers and neck and wtv, Queen is doo-doo and is fighting the same guy that got raped by Vergo and Daifuku like 2 weeks ago, far from a power benchmark.

 

[Adamxero]

Zoro still catching up to his lil bro that got neg diffed by Batman, fat sumo guy, Queen, Ulti, Apoo, etc?
Nah, Zoro protected Luffy from Kaido and that's why Luffy got to get up and asspull CoC coating, Luffy should just name his new gear after Zoro.
Monster samurai stronger than Oden Zoro still negs tho.

Zolo got negged off a stomach illness and barely beat nerfed Killer and is currently being bodied by someone Marco held off while also fighting Queen.


At this rate Izo has better feats against King than Zolo at least Izo disarmed King

Izo > Zolo

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Zolo got negged off a stomach illness and barely beat nerfed Killer and is currently being bodied by someone Marco held off while also fighting Queen.


At this rate Izo has better feats against King than Zolo at least Izo disarmed King

Izo > Zolo

You can cry, cry if it makes you feel better, Luffy himself cries all the time.

 

[nik87]

Lik ignoring Kings own Vivre card stating he holds the highest strength after Kaido.

Kaido and Luffy lol diff their second in commands.

:holdthisl:
:cheers:

I never expected King would make people cope this much. :cantseeme:

Zoro's Tatsumaki did ZERO damage to King's wings. Not even a speck of blood came off of them.

Whatever insignificant damage Zoro does to King's actual body is irrelevant as cutting the wings are the real issue for Zoro.

Passive air slashes did Zero dmg, Oni Giri was direct sword contact.
I know you cant tell a difference between those so I am not mad at you.
Passive air slashes from Tatsumaki also did nothing to Kaido.

What drew blow was direct sword contact which didnt happen in King's case.
No, cutting wings is not the issue, they can easily be cut in close combat.
The issue is that King doesnt take significant damage since for some reason his toughness is another lvl even compared to Kaido.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

I never expected King would make people cope this much. :cantseeme:

Passive air slashes did Zero dmg, Oni Giri was direct sword contact.
I know you cant tell a difference between those so I am not mad at you.
Passive air slashes from Tatsumaki also did nothing to Kaido.

What drew blow was direct sword contact which didnt happen in King's case.
No, cutting wings is not the issue, they can easily be cut in close combat.
The issue is that King doesnt take significant damage since for some reason his toughness is another lvl even compared to Kaido.

Yeah no. King met Zoro's Ultra Tiger Hunt head on with just his wing alone. A direct attack, which Zoro was completely overwhelmed by and did no damage whatsoever to his wing.

Try again.

 

[Jack D. Jobber]

King's Wing Block > Kaido's Passive Scales

That's all we learned this chapter.

 

[CbShadow]

Based on what him lol diffing Zolo who in a 1 v 1 Kaido would annihilate?

Nothing suggests King would push Kaido to a high diff fight other than your headcanon.

It took 5 YC1 Level fighters (Luffy being slightly higher) to push both Kaido and Big Mom to break a sweat and you think King pushed Kaido to high diff get off the copium it's bad for you.

Fighting 2 Yonkos is not the same as fighting 1 Yonko. Clearly, facing 2 is harder.

What do you mean 5 YC1s. Zoro and Luffy were the only YC1 on the roof. Law and Kid are YC2. They reach YC1 when using awakening. Killer is YC3. All of them are still growing stronger.


Zoro still blocked their combo attack (hakai) and tanked it. He bested and scarred while very weaken and severely injured.

Yonkos aren't as strong as alot of fans have made them to be. YC1 of FM (right hand men) I own a level of their own compared to YC.

King would give Kaido a difficult fight. She's incredibly fast, mobile and more agile than Kaido. He has incredible strain offensive power and part of the hurt than Kaido. Even if Kaido knows his secret that is me he was very easy to exploited. King understands his powers more than anyone else.

 

[Finalbeta]

To all the deniers:

Placing King on Katakuri's level is undoubtedly a regrettable choice, you are still in time not to look like absolute clowns

 

[CbShadow]

Yeah no. King met Zoro's Ultra Tiger Hunt head on with just his wing alone. A direct attack, which Zoro was completely overwhelmed by and did no damage whatsoever to his wing.

Try again.

Part of Zoro attack did hit King's face and it only cut off some of his mask. It didn't hurt King's head at all. That's the problem.

We don't know if the reason the attack did hurt King's head was because the attack didn't have much power left. Or the King has another power that allows me to deal with damage. IE: His body absorb damage and release it from the body through the flames on the back of his head.

 

[Fujishiro]

Fighting 2 Yonkos is not the same as fighting 1 Yonko. Clearly, facing 2 is harder.

What do you mean 5 YC1s. Zoro and Luffy were the only YC1 on the roof. Law and Kid are YC2. They reach YC1 when using awakening. Killer is YC3. All of them are still growing stronger.


Zoro still blocked their combo attack (hakai) and tanked it. He bested and scarred while very weaken and severely injured.

Yonkos aren't as strong as alot of fans have made them to be. YC1 of FM (right hand men) I own a level of their own compared to YC.

King would give Kaido a difficult fight. She's incredibly fast, mobile and more agile than Kaido. He has incredible strain offensive power and part of the hurt than Kaido. Even if Kaido knows his secret that is me he was very easy to exploited. King understands his powers more than anyone else.

Luffy was not YC1 on the roof, he was higher.


Not sure what makes Kidd and Law not YC1 tbh.

I just love how you arbitrarily give people their rankings as if you know their actual power level. I very much doubt Killer is at jack's level.

Also do you know what tanking something is?

Here, I got the definition for you:

According to Urban Dictionary, tanking is defined as absorbing damage with little or no effect on their ability to retaliate or well being.

In other words, surviving a hit does not equal tanking it. If someone shoots me in the stomach and I survive it I did not tank a bullet, more likely than not I'm on the verge of death.

Can King fight 9 scabbards on his own ( of them In Sulong form?), then fight the Novas with meager assistance from BM? Then fight powered up luffy and then fight Yamato and then fight powered up luffy x2 ? Cause that's what it takes to give Kaido minimum high diff.

Do you think King is currently comparable to Luffy?

 

[nik87]

Yeah no. King met Zoro's Ultra Tiger Hunt head on with just his wing alone. A direct attack, which Zoro was completely overwhelmed by and did no damage whatsoever to his wing.

Try again.

Did you not read what I said? There is no direct contact from Tatsumaki in King's case like in Kaido's case.
Besides, there were no pteranodon wings in base form and he still took no significant damage from hit that instantly took Killer out.
The Zoan wings are not the source of his toughness, his entire body is that tough.
And regarding Ultora Gari, it passed by King and cut his mask up meaning it was never focused on his wings despite the clash.

 

[Fujishiro]

Did you not read what I said? There is no direct contact from Tatsumaki in King's case like in Kaido's case.
Besides, there were no pteranodon wings in base form and he still took no significant damage from hit that instantly took Killer out.
The Zoan wings are not the source of his toughness, his entire body is that tough.
And regarding Ultora Gari, it passed by King and cut his mask up meaning it was never focused on his wings despite the clash.

Do you think Oni Giri > Tatsumaki?