Powers & Abilities Black Blade is a Haki Feat (Most Likely)

[Just a member]

Like you said even people with monstrous haki didn't manage to make their blades black (Roger, WB etc.) so first of all it can be discussed if it is a CoC feat or a CoA feat. Most likely it is a coa feat or at least mainly because we know Zoro specializes on CoA (Luffy CoC and Sanji supposedly CoO), even Mihawk talked about making the sword black, see a dent in the sword as a dent in the swordsman pride etc. all coa stuff.

So like you said there is something else that must play a role, not just haki. Imo it has to be something related to sword skills which Mihawk has been recognized even above Shanks and first in the verse as far as we know. That could be linked to boat (breath of all things) that Zoro has shown when fighting Mr 1 in Alabasta (as opposed to the voat of Luffy and even Momo).

 

[Thaidakar]

Which three?

Given Aramaki's sword is an actual BB. Tho I highly doubt he forged it, should a be one.
Also there should be a couple others, since Zoro had heard about BBs

 

[Blazing Lion]

Given Aramaki's sword is an actual BB. Tho I highly doubt he forged it, should a be one.
Also there should be a couple others, since Zoro had heard about BBs

Why wouldnt black blades be famous, the WSS carries a black blade. Zoros from Shimotsuki village, they gotta know about the BB their ancestor forged. Tashigi is a geek and info in OP has no logical basis, there is a book of the Meitos and there is a book of DFs, how anyone got that data is taken for granted.

GB having a BB is unconfirmed. Not saying there cant be other and seeing how it is getting tied to power so late in the series you dont expect guys stronger than Roger and WB to go around forging BBs in the past.

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Like you said even people with monstrous haki didn't manage to make their blades black (Roger, WB etc.) so first of all it can be discussed if it is a CoC feat or a CoA feat. Most likely it is a coa feat or at least mainly because we know Zoro specializes on CoA (Luffy CoC and Sanji supposedly CoO), even Mihawk talked about making the sword black, see a dent in the sword as a dent in the swordsman pride etc. all coa stuff.

So like you said there is something else that must play a role, not just haki. Imo it has to be something related to sword skills which Mihawk has been recognized even above Shanks and first in the verse as far as we know. That could be linked to boat (breath of all things) that Zoro has shown when fighting Mr 1 in Alabasta (as opposed to the voat of Luffy and even Momo).

Highly doubt the CoA thing, it had the offense and defense thing (shield and spear) when CoC was just knocking out fodders. But after ACoC which is CoA on steroids there is no point in CoA being able to do something that ACoC cannot. Even more so now that we learn that you gotta prove yourself to the blade and tame it etc.

If haki is a part of forging BB then you cant separate CoA and CoC at this point.

 

[Dragon777]

It does dehype because GB twerked to Shanks. Imagine Ryuma or Roger twerking to Shanks haki like that

I don't need to: we had stronger characters twerking for less. Imu twerked for Joy Boy's haki far worse (still final villain of the manga, arguably > Roger) and BB, pirate final villian, twerks for basically eventhing that happens to him.
So, yeah, not really.

Btw, Aramaki was hit by surprise by Shanks' haki, same as Imu did, and still said that "It was not the time" and talked about the whole RHP (Kaido + King shied away from all RHP and Shanks didn't even had a wrinkle on his trousers after their "clash").

So again, no. The only ones who want to use that to dehype Ryo are the same who probably have closed their eyes for evey BB's scene or last Imu scene and basically all the manga.
And that not even mentioning Luffy, the future god of OP who gets humbled every second.

 

[JoNdule]

It's a coa feat + becoming one with your sword

 

[Dragon777]

It's a coa feat + becoming one with your sword

Bare and bones, could be. Still crazy CoA feat.

 

[Blazing Lion]

I don't need to: we had stronger characters twerking for less. Imu twerked for Joy Boy's haki far worse (still final villain of the manga, arguably > Roger) and BB, pirate final villian, twerks for basically eventhing that happens to him.
So, yeah, not really.

Btw, Aramaki was hit by surprise by Shanks' haki, same as Imu did, and still said that "It was not the time" and talked about the whole RHP (Kaido + King shied away from all RHP and Shanks didn't even had a wrinkle on his trousers after their "clash").

So again, no. The only ones who want to use that to dehype Ryo are the same who probably have closed their eyes for evey BB's scene or last Imu scene and basically all the manga.
And that not even mentioning Luffy, the future god of OP who gets humbled every second.

Cant believe you defending GB twerking to Shanks haki

 

[Dragon777]

Cant believe you defending GB twerking to Shanks haki

Can't believe you are still using that after Imu, BB, Luffy, etc.
More so because It GB himself that talks about the whole RHP.

 

[Blazing Lion]

Can't believe you are still using that after Imu, BB, Luffy, etc.
More so because It GB himself that talks about the whole RHP.

RHPs were not the one sending the WiFi haki, it was only Shanks.
You are seriously not seeing the problem? BB is a coward, we already know this, what about Luffy? And yeah JB can be stronger than Imu. GB should be stronger if not equal to Shanks if he has forged a BB and you dont twerk like that to your equal or inferiors haki.

 

[Dragon777]

RHPs were not the one sending the WiFi haki, it was only Shanks.
You are seriously not seeing the problem? BB is a coward, we already know this, what about Luffy? And yeah JB can be stronger than Imu. GB should be stronger if not equal to Shanks if he has forged a BB and you dont twerk like that to your equal or inferiors haki.

Have you seen BB making his usual clown face for a far weaker haki from someone (Ray) that admitted himself that was weaker?
Have I really to show the million times Luffy made clown reaction to something?
And Yeah, JB might be stronger than Imu but sure as hell he Isn't in a league above of his own; still, Imu twerked.

In this manga there are stoic characters (like Mihawk, Zoro, Shanks, etc.) who tend to be cool no matter what and clownish characters (like Luffy, BB, Ryo, etc.) who overreact. It has always been like that.
Luffy was mad worried for Kizaru; do you have Kizaru>Luffy?
Good for you in that case.

GB can surely be near Shanks, having a clown reaction at his unexpected haki and as he said going away (Just like Kaido + King shied away) only in front of the whole RHP. In fact he Just said "It's not the moment".

 

[Rootbeer]

Why would Roger try to climb the Kilimanjaro when Everest is way higher and makes him more powerful, that's why top tier don't bother forging a Black Blade..

Also no matter how you think about it, a Black Blade is a Sword Awakening..

 

[Blazing Lion]

Have you seen BB making his usual clown face for a far weaker haki from someone (Ray) that admitted himself that was weaker?
Have I really to show the million times Luffy made clown reaction to something?
And Yeah, JB might be stronger than Imu but sure as hell he Isn't in a league above of his own; still, Imu twerked.

In this manga there are stoic characters (like Mihawk, Zoro, Shanks, etc.) who tend to be cool no matter what and clownish characters (like Luffy, BB, Ryo, etc.) who overreact. It has always been like that.
Luffy was mad worried for Kizaru; do you have Kizaru>Luffy?
Good for you in that case.

GB can surely be near Shanks, having a clown reaction at his unexpected haki and as he said going away (Just like Kaido + King shied away) only in front of the whole RHP. In fact he Just said "It's not the moment".

Far weaker? Ray was not sure he could beat BB at this age meaning the far weaker shit doesnt apply here. Seriously you are using Luffy here?
What manga are you reading? Luffy was shocked first and then was smiling while he kicked Kizaru.

I understand why Yonko fans do you Admiral fans so dirty. You go to any lengths to defend your fav. How do you defend this only as an overreaction is beyond me.

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Why would Roger try to climb the Kilimanjaro when Everest is way higher and makes him more powerful, that's why top tier don't bother forging a Black Blade..

Also no matter how you think about it, a Black Blade is a Sword Awakening..

 

[Djordje]

Which three?

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It does dehype because GB twerked to Shanks. Imagine Ryuma or Roger twerking to Shanks haki like that

And Mihawk who you wank so much already admitted gap in power between him and Whitebeard. Even when Whitebeard died world strongest pirate title didnt go to Mihawk but to Kaido.

Mihawk is already dehyped , but you fanboys are too much butthurt to admit it.

 

[CbShadow]

Why would Roger try to climb the Kilimanjaro when Everest is way higher and makes him more powerful, that's why top tier don't bother forging a Black Blade..

Also no matter how you think about it, a Black Blade is a Sword Awakening..

This is a dumb post.

What's better than having an unbreakable sword that you can channel an unlimited amount of power through?

If Roger and Mihawk clashed then it doesn't matter how much power Roger puts in his attack he would never break the mihawks sword, but Mihawk can break Roger's sword.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

prob armament haki

 

[Dragon777]

Far weaker? Ray was not sure he could beat BB at this age meaning the far weaker shit doesnt apply here.

Yeah, Ray admitted explicitly he was weaker, so try your cope with someone different, you might be luckier lol.

Seriously you are using Luffy here?
What manga are you reading? Luffy was shocked first and then was smiling while he kicked Kizaru.

So you are admitting that one can have a clown reaction and then be perfectly capable of fighting someone, good.

Good that we have Ryo not only talking about the whole RHP then, but saying it was not the time:

I understand why Yonko fans do you Admiral fans so dirty. You go to any lengths to defend your fav. How do you defend this only as an overreaction is beyond me.

Talk the one who defends the character who postponed Vista .

But again, how you can have this level of double standard and keep a straight face is beyond me: Imu twerks --> ok; BB twerks --> ok; Luffy twerks --> ok; Mihawk postpone Vista --> ok; Ryo twerks and then said it's not the time to face all RHP --> trash.

I mean, it should be studied.

 

[Rootbeer]

This is a dumb post.

What's better than having an unbreakable sword that you can channel an unlimited amount of power through?

If Roger and Mihawk clashed then it doesn't matter how much power Roger puts in his attack he would never break the mihawks sword, but Mihawk can break Roger's sword.

A sword is gadget, you can try to enhance a Blade all you want, it will always be the wrong approach.. The Haki user is the strongest vessel, they are the Haki source.. Joyboy is more powerful than the Haki he sealed in Emet, not the other way around..

Mihawk wouldn't even touch Roger once, Roger has AdCoC, Mihawk doesn't..

 

[haxxor]

Black Blade imo is like an awakening to a devil fruit; the final form of your sword as a swordsman, the black blade marks that you’re a complete **True** swordsman

this meaning that the character would solely have to invest in his sword more than any other department, like how DF users would gamble more on their fruit than haki.

haki is for all, but to get a black blade you have to be the traditional swordsman and dedicate to it.

It all depends on what the character specializes in most

 

[Blazing Lion]

Yeah, Ray admitted explicitly he was weaker, so try your cope with someone different, you might be luckier lol.

So you are admitting that one can have a clown reaction and then be perfectly capable of fighting someone, good.

Good that we have Ryo not only talking about the whole RHP then, but saying it was not the time:

Talk the one who defends the character who postponed Vista .

But again, how you can have this level of double standard and keep a straight face is beyond me: Imu twerks --> ok; BB twerks --> ok; Luffy twerks --> ok; Mihawk postpone Vista --> ok; Ryo twerks and then said it's not the time to face all RHP --> trash.

I mean, it should be studied.

Ray said he couldnt possibly beat BB in a 1v1 at that age, possibly. There is a difference in clown reaction and what GB showed, stop trying to dust GBs reaction as a clown reaction or an overreaction.
So easy to post the smaller panels that are after the main thing. You looking like a fool here. The RHP pirates thing comes after the main thing to which GB twerked.

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Yeah, Ray admitted explicitly he was weaker, so try your cope with someone different, you might be luckier lol.

So you are admitting that one can have a clown reaction and then be perfectly capable of fighting someone, good.

Good that we have Ryo not only talking about the whole RHP then, but saying it was not the time:

Talk the one who defends the character who postponed Vista .

But again, how you can have this level of double standard and keep a straight face is beyond me: Imu twerks --> ok; BB twerks --> ok; Luffy twerks --> ok; Mihawk postpone Vista --> ok; Ryo twerks and then said it's not the time to face all RHP --> trash.

I mean, it should be studied.

GB is the one screaming and asking to stop that, forced out of his DF form, shaking and rattled with snot coming out of his nose. And none of the other RHPs sent their WiFi haki to get this effect, it was only Shanks.

 

[Just a member]

Highly doubt the CoA thing, it had the offense and defense thing (shield and spear) when CoC was just knocking out fodders. But after ACoC which is CoA on steroids there is no point in CoA being able to do something that ACoC cannot. Even more so now that we learn that you gotta prove yourself to the blade and tame it etc.

If haki is a part of forging BB then you cant separate CoA and CoC at this point.

Maybe but the CoC specialists in the verse for now are Shanks, Luffy and supposedly people like Roger, Joyboy of course which are all linked to the MC. Even if Zoro already has coc and even acoc he will always be below Luffy in this department (coc) as Mihawk will stay below Shanks and going with Zoro and Mihawk honestly I don't expect Ryuma to be hyped for his coc (that is Joyboy) but just for his sword skills (like it already is, the sword god) and maybe for his coa. Imo it has been underlined coa is the real haki for the swordsmen while coc is almost Luffy property.

Also coc has all the specialities of this world but at the same time coo has future sight which is still a very relevant ability, just look at Shanks vs Kidd, it is basically precognition (which is big, and it gets better with better coo) so coa should get some sort of speciality as well. Coc stole a lot of stuff from coa (in the past coc was used inly to knock out myriads of fodders but now it is the main attack ability) so coa needs something important as well to keep the pace with coo at least.

Then at this point, since coc ate almost everything, it could be that it also ate all the stuff related to swords (in order to be a top swordsman/ make a black blade you need very good coc) but by taking this way it is implied that what Zoro gets will always be worse than what Luffy gets since Luffy has and will always have better coc than Zoro (be it simply by Luffy specializing in it while Zoro specializes in coa or because the MC will always be better in his set of skills than other people).