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Rotten af .. UCallin clashes equally with Wb , xebec and than sayin '' proven strongest guy '' .. u dont even know what u are trying to do..If multiple great pirates have Robin as Oden's replacement , all can be Pk. Ofc need individual power + crew power etc etc to become great pirate which has nothing to do with lone wolf mihawk and his individual superiority over whole swordsmen
Yes they can be PK if they are Great Pirates, what's your point?

mihawk is not a great pirate, so he can't do this, he isn't strong enough.

Luffy isn't becoming Great Pirate with crew power, not sure why you are crying,

Luffy's path to become a Great Pirate; defeating Shichibukai Doflamingo, YC3/YC2 Cracker, YC1 Katakuri, lastly Yonko Kaido.

What Luffy's crew has anything to do with Luffy being a Great Pirate? Talk about being rotten, lmao. A lot of dishonesty.

Luffy's crew doesn't make him a Great Pirate, Luffy's individual power does.
 

Van

Get to duh Choppa!(taxes)
Now you're just moving the goalposts. Your original complaint was that they were nobodies (they are not), now you want them to have something to do with the WSS title. Why? As shown during Zoro vs King, even Zoro doesn't care if his opponent is a proper swordsman or not, and Zoro doesn't care how he beats his opponents. He just wants to get strong enough to beat Mihawk, how is this so hard to understand?


Ok, I'll ask a fourth time, since you seem hell-bent on not answering the question.

WHICH ARC DID YOU WANT ODA TO INSERT A WSS CONTENDER AND WHAT RELEVANCE WOULD SAID CHARACTER HAVE TO THE PLOT? HOW WOULD THIS SWORDSMAN PLOT FIT ANYWHERE OUTSIDE OF WANO?

Since the timeskip, One Piece has gone back to what it originally was intended to be, a showdown between the Yonko and Luffy. Everything else has been sucked into that plotline, with Oda only very recently turning his attention back to Zoro and Sanji. Oda doesn't need to spoonfeed his audience the importance of the WSS title. In the end, all that is required is Mihawk, and the hype he has/will receive in and out of canon. No one apparently wants to discover the truth about the Void Century (other than Robin), or become the World's Strongest Man. But does Oda seriously need to treat you like you're two years old and can't understand their importance?
You must have missed it when I labelled the nobodies as Cabaji, Hyouzou, Pica etc in earlier posts. And my original posts and complaints has always been how Zoro has been facing people who got nothing to do with the title, and there not anyone else who cares about it. Was stated multiple times.

And what's with the false dilemma? Why do I have to pick a specific arc? I clearly said the issue is that Oda hasn't given any proper world building to the WSS title for 1000 chapters. Oda made plenty of characters who are downright irrelevant, so what's the issue of creating a character that's relevant to the title?
 
Yes they can be PK if they are Great Pirates, what's your point?

mihawk is not a great pirate, so he can't do this, he isn't strong enough.

Luffy isn't becoming Great Pirate with crew power, not sure why you are crying,

Luffy's path to become a Great Pirate; defeating Shichibukai Doflamingo, YC3/YC2 Cracker, YC1 Katakuri, lastly Yonko Kaido.

What Luffy's crew has anything to do with Luffy being a Great Pirate? Talk about being rotten, lmao. A lot of dishonesty.

Luffy's crew doesn't make him a Great Pirate, Luffy's individual power does.
U r crying about great pirate stuff as it's individual shit to stick on topic after losed many materials due to oda lol... mihawk is no1 over one of your great pirate swordsmen shanks which totally shits on your agenda and makes it rotten af .. Shanks is basically made in china version Mihawk with having crew to make him great as you are callin
 
Yes they can be PK if they are Great Pirates, what's your point?

mihawk is not a great pirate, so he can't do this, he isn't strong enough.

Luffy isn't becoming Great Pirate with crew power, not sure why you are crying,

Luffy's path to become a Great Pirate; defeating Shichibukai Doflamingo, YC3/YC2 Cracker, YC1 Katakuri, lastly Yonko Kaido.

What Luffy's crew has anything to do with Luffy being a Great Pirate? Talk about being rotten, lmao. A lot of dishonesty.

Luffy's crew doesn't make him a Great Pirate, Luffy's individual power does.
Mihawk alone can't be a Great Pirate but Luffy can? Hahahaha.

Mihawk is Yonko crew level all by himself while Luffy alone would have died way before.

Luffy didn't defeated Katakuri and will not defeat Kaido.
 
You must have missed it when I labelled the nobodies as Cabaji, Hyouzou, Pica etc in earlier posts. And my original posts and complaints has always been how Zoro has been facing people who got nothing to do with the title, and there not anyone else who cares about it. Was stated multiple times.

And what's with the false dilemma? Why do I have to pick a specific arc? I clearly said the issue is that Oda hasn't given any proper world building to the WSS title for 1000 chapters. Oda made plenty of characters who are downright irrelevant, so what's the issue of creating a character that's relevant to the title?
And now he's facing King, who also has 'no relevance' to the title. Idk why you're complaining about any of this shit given that Zoro himself does not care if his opponent is a swordsman. Putting aside how you probably didn't read Dressrosa (how tf anyone can go back through that arc and say Pica was irrelevant, idk) and are for some reason talking about East motherfucking Blue and an arc that is universally panned by One Piece fans. Hody, the main fucking antagonist of the arc was a nobody. Wtf did you want Zoro to do?

? How is Oda supposed to give world building to the title? It's literally just one man, one man that he's been keeping very much a secret for a reason. He hasn't given us a bounty, or any substantive backstory for Mihawk. Nothing. All that matters for the WSS title is Mihawk himself, and if Oda is being this secretive about him, he's clearly got something planned. There's no reason why Zoro's opponents should tell him that they want to be WSS, why the heck would they tell him about their reasons for chasing Mihawk? You want Oda to make more irrelevant characters that badly?
 
U r crying about great pirate stuff as it's individual shit to stick on topic after losed many materials due to oda lol... mihawk is no1 over one of your great pirate swordsmen shanks which totally shits on your agenda and makes it rotten af .. Shanks is basically made in china version Mihawk with having crew to make him great as you are callin
Again, you don't answer anything, only cry,

Luffy is becoming Great Pirate because of his individual power, and because of his individual battles against the strongest pirates in One Piece

Mihawk alone can't be a Great Pirate but Luffy can? Hahahaha.

Mihawk is Yonko crew level all by himself while Luffy alone would have died way before.

Luffy didn't defeated Katakuri and will not defeat Kaido.
Yes true, he was portrayed as equals with Jozu and Vista.

Luffy will become a Great Pirate due to his individual power, his crew not making him win his individual battles.
 
Again, you don't answer anything, only cry,

Luffy is becoming Great Pirate because of his individual power, and because of his individual battles against the strongest pirates in One Piece


Yes true, he was portrayed as equals with Jozu and Vista.

Luffy will become a Great Pirate due to his individual power, his crew not making him win his individual battles.
Equal? Don't make me laugh. Just because Jozu hold his single swing air cut attack and Vista fought Mihawk while he was thinking about Luffy doesn't make them equals.

Mihawk is portrayed superior to Shanks.

He is Yonko level without crew. Superior to them.
 

Sanji D Goat

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Man, looking at all these arguments in this thread.:milaugh:

Can't wait for my theory to be correct per usual.:goyea:
Maybe. But I still have my own theory about how to make a black blade. Basically, in order to create a black blade, your ambition must be WSS or fully dedicated to the way of sword like Ryuma. Roger or Whitebeard or Shanks couldn't make black blades because they weren't aiming for WSS in the first place. That's how I see it.
 

Van

Get to duh Choppa!(taxes)
And now he's facing King, who also has 'no relevance' to the title. Idk why you're complaining about any of this shit given that Zoro himself does not care if his opponent is a swordsman. Putting aside how you probably didn't read Dressrosa (how tf anyone can go back through that arc and say Pica was irrelevant, idk) and are for some reason talking about East motherfucking Blue and an arc that is universally panned by One Piece fans. Hody, the main fucking antagonist of the arc was a nobody. Wtf did you want Zoro to do?

? How is Oda supposed to give world building to the title? It's literally just one man, one man that he's been keeping very much a secret for a reason. He hasn't given us a bounty, or any substantive backstory for Mihawk. Nothing. All that matters for the WSS title is Mihawk himself, and if Oda is being this secretive about him, he's clearly got something planned. There's no reason why Zoro's opponents should tell him that they want to be WSS, why the heck would they tell him about their reasons for chasing Mihawk? You want Oda to make more irrelevant characters that badly?
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about and continually puts words in my mouth.
I clearly said Pica is irrelevant to the WSS title. He's clearly a nobody when it comes to the WSS title.

Mihawk said he sits at the top of swordsmanship, which tells us there are swordsmen below him. We were told that every swordsman dreams of facing the WSS. After 1000 chapters we got nothing and majority of Zoro's opponents having nothing to do with the title. Nobody in the OP world gives a damn about the title except Zoro and Mihawk after 1000 chapters. That is poor world building.

But hey....King being yet another non swordsman not connected to the WSS title, and your constant screaming at walls, can make up for 1000 chapters of nothing. If King is connected to the WSS title congrats...first one in 600 chapters.
 
Again, you don't answer anything, only cry,

Luffy is becoming Great Pirate because of his individual power, and because of his individual battles against the strongest pirates in One Piece


Yes true, he was portrayed as equals with Jozu and Vista.

Luffy will become a Great Pirate due to his individual power, his crew not making him win his individual battles.
Where r that individual battles which u are bablin about bro ? there is none which starts with doffy and still continues.. someone helps him , aiding and feeding him than sendin for another round..Just couple of chapters before , people picked up his trash ass from deep downs of sea .. are we reading same manga with you or are you deleting parts which doesnt fit your agenda ? you already begun to show your casual behaviour that hiding under Vista's umbrella when u are out of option.. Great pirate Shanks crumbling under title's of Mihawk.. Thats simple fact that u cant surpass without leavin your brain aside and enter to retards realm
 
Equal? Don't make me laugh. Just because Jozu hold his single swing air cut attack and Vista fought Mihawk while he was thinking about Luffy doesn't make them equals.

Mihawk is portrayed superior to Shanks.

He is Yonko level without crew. Superior to them.
In marineford if one is superior to another, Oda made it clear;

Shichibukai Jinbe vs. shichibukai moria

Jinbe showed the difference even when both were Shichibukai.

Shichibukai mihawk vs. shichibukai Crocodile

mihawk couldn't show the difference.

mihawk only showed the difference against Okama swordsmen, Daz Bones and Buggy, and was chasing Luffy

mihawk couldn't show the power difference with Jozu and Vista as well.

Doflamingo showed the power difference with Atmos (WB Pirates) even attacked Jozu and stopped him while Jozu was dealing with Crocodile.

Yes equal portrayal, even Vivre card and databook states Vista and mihawk had equal portrayals, you can laugh all you want. His attack was for seeing the power difference with WB, strongest man in the world, yet Jozu stopped it with ease, he couldn't even pass Jozu to see the power difference with Yonko.

mihawk is not even close to Shanks, one is a great pirate, the other is not. Swordsmanship is irrelevant, mihawk is a pirate first.
 
In marineford if one is superior to another, Oda made it clear;

Shichibukai Jinbe vs. shichibukai moria

Jinbe showed the difference even when both were Shichibukai.

Shichibukai mihawk vs. shichibukai Crocodile

mihawk couldn't show the difference.

mihawk only showed the difference against Okama swordsmen, Daz Bones and Buggy, and was chasing Luffy

mihawk couldn't show the power difference with Jozu and Vista as well.

Doflamingo showed the power difference with Atmos (WB Pirates) even attacked Jozu and stopped him while Jozu was dealing with Crocodile.

Yes equal portrayal, even Vivre card and databook states Vista and mihawk had equal portrayals, you can laugh all you want. His attack was for seeing the power difference with WB, strongest man in the world, yet Jozu stopped it with ease, he couldn't even pass Jozu to see the power difference with Yonko.

mihawk is not even close to Shanks, one is a great pirate, the other is not. Swordsmanship is irrelevant, mihawk is a pirate first.
Mihawk WSS who was better than Shanks. No arguments against facts.


Go ahead and say that Akainu was equal to WB.

I saw your signature, do you truly believe Shichibukai BB is Admiral Level? And all those other bullshits?
 
Where r that individual battles which u are bablin about bro ? there is none which starts with doffy and still continues.. someone helps him , aiding and feeding him than sendin for another round..Just couple of chapters before , people picked up his trash ass from deep downs of sea .. are we reading same manga with you or are you deleting parts which doesnt fit your agenda ? you already begun to show your casual behaviour that hiding under Vista's umbrella when u are out of option.. Great pirate Shanks crumbling under title's of Mihawk.. Thats simple fact that u cant surpass without leavin your brain aside and enter to retards realm
mihawk's title is insignificant in the world of pirates

mihawk is also a pirate, if mihawk wasn't a pirate then you could have an argument

stop wanking mihawk's title just because Lolo, underling of Luffy will get that and surpass mihawk, Lolo will be still much weaker than Luffy, the Great Pirate, he is an underling of Pirate King, Lolo will be close to Sanji more than close to Luffy for a reason.

If you think Luffy's individual power is not the most important thing in his Great Title status, you are delusional.

Luffy is not some mastermind with great battle tactics, he is an incredibly powerful fighter, individually.

Great pirates are all like that; Yonko, Roger etc. These are always related to strongest man or strongest pirates in the world (WB/Kaido).

mihawk's best feat is fighting Pre-Yonko Shanks and not losing 12 years (or more) before when Shanks wasn't even close to being a Yonko.

mihawk is a pirate for a reason and he can't do shit in pirates world.

Mihawk WSS who was better than Shanks. No arguments against facts.


Go ahead and say that Akainu was equal to WB.

I saw your signature, do you truly believe Shichibukai BB is Admiral Level? And all those other bullshits?
In world of pirates, people wank swordsman status over pirate status, it's a funny shit.

Lolo is an underling of Luffy, and will surpass mihawk

Lolo's boss Luffy is trying to surpass Shanks,

Two different levels.

marineford WB was extremely nerfed and weakened, and yes WB still two-shotted Lakainu in the end,

Blackbeard soloed Sengoku + Garp + half of marineford, it's a fact, was superior to Ladmirals.
 
mihawk's title is insignificant in the world of pirates

mihawk is also a pirate, if mihawk wasn't a pirate then you could have an argument

stop wanking mihawk's title just because Lolo, underling of Luffy will get that and surpass mihawk, Lolo will be still much weaker than Luffy, the Great Pirate, he is an underling of Pirate King, Lolo will be close to Sanji more than close to Luffy for a reason.

If you think Luffy's individual power is not the most important thing in his Great Title status, you are delusional.

Luffy is not some mastermind with great battle tactics, he is an incredibly powerful fighter, individually.

Great pirates are all like that; Yonko, Roger etc. These are always related to strongest man or strongest pirates in the world (WB/Kaido).

mihawk's best feat is fighting Pre-Yonko Shanks and not losing 12 years (or more) before when Shanks wasn't even close to being a Yonko.

mihawk is a pirate for a reason and he can't do shit in pirates world.



In world of pirates, people wank swordsman status over pirate status, it's a funny shit.

Lolo is an underling of Luffy, and will surpass mihawk

Lolo's boss Luffy is trying to surpass Shanks,

Two different levels.

marineford WB was extremely nerfed and weakened, and yes WB still two-shotted Lakainu in the end,

Blackbeard soloed Sengoku + Garp + half of marineford, it's a fact, was superior to Ladmirals.
Zoro is stronger than Luffy, it seems you are not aware of that.

Luffy doesn't want to surpass Shanks in terms of power but in terms of crew. He already has Zoro for that.

Marineford WB wasn't that much nerfed and didn't two-shotted Akainu but sure he wiped the floor with him.

How the hell BB soloed everybody? Sengoku part was anime filler and is OK since Sengoku is a joke. He didn't even faced Garp(wouldn't survive) or any Admiral.
 
Zoro is stronger than Luffy, it seems you are not aware of that.
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Ok troll, it looks like you quoted the wrong guy, don't do it again.

Luffy doesn't want to surpass Shanks in terms of power but in terms of crew. He already has Zoro for that.

Marineford WB wasn't that much nerfed and didn't two-shotted Akainu but sure he wiped the floor with him.

How the hell BB soloed everybody? Sengoku part was anime filler and is OK since Sengoku is a joke. He didn't even faced Garp(wouldn't survive) or any Admiral.
Luffy wants to be stronger than Yonko,

Crew vs crew fights are different,

Sengoku is the only confirmed CoC user, and a Fleet Admiral, a legend that's been called out by WB and Roger, lmao.
 
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Ok troll, it looks like you quoted the wrong guy, don't do it again.


Luffy wants to be stronger than Yonko,

Crew vs crew fights are different,

Sengoku is the only confirmed CoC user, and a Fleet Admiral, a legend that's been called out by WB and Roger, lmao.
Luffy wants to be stronger than Kaido only to beat him. He said he wants to be stronger than everybody so he can be Pirate King, turns out he doesn't need to be the strongest to become Pirate King.

Sengoku is a joke that couldn't even stop Luffy from saving Ace in front of him. Pre-timeskip Luffy tanked Sengoku without passing out. G4 Luffy got one-shotted by Kaido. Sengoku is a joke.
 
Luffy wants to be stronger than Kaido only to beat him. He said he wants to be stronger than everybody so he can be Pirate King, turns out he doesn't need to be the strongest to become Pirate King.

Sengoku is a joke that couldn't even stop Luffy from saving Ace in front of him. Pre-timeskip Luffy tanked Sengoku without passing out. G4 Luffy got one-shotted by Kaido. Sengoku is a joke.
Not interested in your troll takes once you said Luffy is weaker than Lolo, get lost troll :goyea:
 
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